dempartisan23
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Thu Mar-20-08 11:14 AM
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mccain, hillary's friend, cruises to huge lead while we fight |
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http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/daily_presidential_tracking_pollthe way things are going with us ripping each other apart as ordered by rush fatbag, mccain will be ahead by 25% come june. where are our leaders?
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Thu Mar-20-08 11:16 AM
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1. Your thread title does nothing to relieve the stress between the camps. |
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In fact, it's flame bait.
You should edit the title if your intention wasn't to instigate (another) flame war.
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dempartisan23
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Thu Mar-20-08 11:18 AM
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2. hillary did that when she endorsed mccain |
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bill clinton has said they are good friends and mccain has said hillary would be a good president. they are identical.
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Thu Mar-20-08 11:19 AM
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3. No they are not 'identical'. |
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Thu Mar-20-08 11:21 AM
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Thu Mar-20-08 11:20 AM
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4. Huge leads against who? Himself? |
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There's no nominee for the Dems, yet pollsters are busy pretending they can predict anything.
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dempartisan23
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Thu Mar-20-08 11:22 AM
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we are self-destructing, ordered to do so by rush fatbag, yet our leaders are in hiding. 2 months ago this was an election we could not lose. now can we win?
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Thu Mar-20-08 11:27 AM
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12. I don't see that as a problem. |
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There's no Dem nominee yet, BUT THERE WILL BE. THERE WILL BE. For the moment, McCain is a senile ghost, showing up here and there, and doing much of nothing.
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Thu Mar-20-08 11:23 AM
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7. Like I said on another thread..... |
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That is only because the republicans have their nominee. This will change when we have ours.
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Thu Mar-20-08 11:25 AM
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things are getting so bitter now that it may be impossible to win. today, hillary is joining rush fatbag in attacking obama over wright. if hillary is the nominee will our most loyal base come out to vote after all this? meanwhile, mccain is running free and clear, and will for months.
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Thu Mar-20-08 11:50 AM
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I am saddened by the lack of leadership in the Democratic Party, once again yanking defeat from the jaws of victory.
Sadly I do not see this as a Hillary v Obama issue, though Hillary supporters seem to want to make it that. This is about standing up for the principles that our Party supposedly so believes in. There is no need to bring Hillary into this. The Party should be rallying around Obama, circling the wagons, but he is being left alone. Instead a complex issue is being trivialized to make cheap political points.
What good is it to embrace the principles of free speech, unity and equality when it is so easy to run away from those priciples when things get uncomfortable? The Democratic Party was given an opportunity to come out against the politics of personal destruction and guilt by association, but it has failed.
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Thu Mar-20-08 11:25 AM
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is nowhere to be seen.
I can almost guarrantee that the GOP leadership would never let something like this happen this far along in the process.
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Thu Mar-20-08 11:27 AM
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Thu Mar-20-08 11:55 AM
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It's very easy to stand on high moral ground until someone starts shooting at you. It may just be easier to ignore the seriousness of the situation rather than actually take a stand that reflects what they have been preaching for 40 years.
Look at how the leadership has caved in on Bush and the war. Why should this be any different?
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Thu Mar-20-08 11:27 AM
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10. Why panic? This all reverses itself when we get a nominee. |
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Once again the professionals have found that their elitist deep wisdom isn't so freaking great when the rubber meets the road. The only ones panicking are them. Because their plans all failed miserably.
That gang was pretty sure that moving up the primaries would force to the front the winner among the big fund raisers, shortening the primary battles, leaving funds available for whacking the GOP.
Hah! I lift my kilt and waive my private parts at them! The fuckhead "leadership" who think they know so much have blundered once again. The elitist security system they set up to protect elitists has just large enough holes woven into it to strangle popular support.
Yet, once again it is up to the base to take a reef in our britches after the nominee is selected for us and to cut ourselves free from the knotty mess they made in order to come to the aid of politicians who care more about their status than the states.
When we do, and I am certain that as obedient donkeys we will, McCain's numbers in the comparison polls will plummet.
The only ones scared, rather than disgusted, are the professional Dems who thought that by now they would have their chariots hooked to a comet.
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Thu Mar-20-08 11:30 AM
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mccain is broke yet he might win 40 states today. meanwhile, our voters are marching to fatbags orders. vote for the beatable candidate, hillary. do as rush says? it seems to our motto these days.
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Thu Mar-20-08 11:42 AM
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14. Forty states ARE NOT voting today. You seem to ignore that. |
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Edited on Thu Mar-20-08 11:45 AM by HereSince1628
Being in panic mode IS WHERE THE ASSHOLES ON THE RIGHT WANT US TO BE!
Why? Just for ever-loving WHY do you think that a Republican legislature created the problems with the primary in Florida?
We are a fractious party. Despite our protestations of being tolerant and open minded we claw each other's eyes out at the first hint of misunderstanding.
Like a pride of killer therapods we are fiesty with brains the size of walnuts. We have better senses of smell than long term memory. As soon as the candidate is chosen we will take up a new scent and take up the task of tearing the bloody bowels out of a rather senescent pea-brained GOPosaurus...we do so even though it will enable the professional demodont politicians to once again take up the lead and make the same old sort of mistakes they have for 30 years. That's life in this species.
Because of that part of our behavior, once we kill-off the challenger to our future leader, we will gladly turn our energy and talons to tearing down McCain. Making shreds of the GOPosaur won't take but a couple of weeks. Right now there are more important tasks at hand. We have competitors to the leadership to destroy.
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Thu Mar-20-08 11:52 AM
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16. I wouldn't say that... |
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The effects of Obama's speech is just now starting to show in the polls.
He's gonna be ahead again.
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