Why is it assumed that Obama supporters hate Hillary Clinton?

[undeterred]

My original candidate was Dennis Kucinich. Well, actually I'd like to see Feingold run, but I knew it wasn't going to happen, and I knew Kucinich wasn't going to have a chance. In the beginning I was so disgusted with the way the media separated Clinton, Obama, and Edwards from the rest that I kind of lumped them all together. Eventually I preferred Edwards, but then the media treated him like crap too.

So like a lot of other people at DU I am a recent converter to Obama. I am not young, and I have been working on campaigns for a while. I did not go to his rallies, instead I listened to speeches and interviews on the radio. I actually like not looking at someone when I am deciding.

I got to meet Bill Clinton in 2006 when he came to my state to campaign for the governors race and it was very exciting- perhaps the only time in my lifetime I will shake hands with a president. When Clinton was in office I liked Hillary very much and I remember thinking how cool it would be if she were our first female president someday.

Choosing Obama over Hillary was basically due to the fact that he opposed the war in Iraq from the beginning. I think it was a tough choice for a lot of us. Some of her behavior during the past few weeks has been pretty irritating, and I like the way he handled the tough situation this week. But HATE is a little strong. If she gets the nomination I will work for her and vote for her. But I really think Obama will be better for our country.

[graywarrior]

1. She has been reminding me of Java the Hut lately.

But I don't hate her. I just prefer Obama right now.

[nonconformist]

29. Java the Hut?

A coffee-lovin' monster?

[graywarrior]

31. The eyes.

Something about the eyes when she is answering questions or giving us her opinion.

[Lucinda]

2. I think it only exists in the ultra-partisan blog world.

Most people I talk to outide the web, prefer one or the other, but still like both.

[democrattotheend]

3. I don't hate her

I am disappointed with the way she has run her campaign, but I would still be excited about voting for her, if only because she's a Democrat and she'd be the first woman president.

[olkaz]

4. Because she is incredibly divisive.

Seriously, have you ever met anybody lukewarm about Hillary Clinton?

Me either.

[undeterred]

5. Repuke men hate her, but repuke men hate all women,

[olkaz]

11. I know, but it stretches farther than that

My group of friends and my family are all very progressive. Even my dad, who was more of a conservative in the model of Goldwater, has come around.

And all of them dislike Hillary. They support women all over the place in other situations, but not Hillary.

This is including feminist grad students and my feminist mom.

We ALL get pissed when we hear some sort of sexist epithet used against Hillary (or any woman), but after that, there's no love.

The 90's were hard on my family and friends.

Heck, you should have heard the conversation we had about Darcy Burner not too long ago. Love women in politics, dislike Hillary. She's an anomaly.

[undeterred]

22. Its funny- I know a couple of soft spoken women in politics

and they are well loved but I don't think they go quite as far. And there is something about Hillary- nobody is neutral. Its weird- Republican men see her as super liberal- and I've found myself defending her to them... but there is just nothing you can say to convince them. They have a sort of gut level terror.

"We ALL get pissed when we hear some sort of sexist epithet used against Hillary (or any woman), but after that, there's no love." Yes, I can relate.

[olkaz]

32. Oh lord, I know exactly what you mean.

My wife is a essentially a libertarian-leaning progressive (she's coming along, came from a VERY conservative family). She doesn't follow politics really closely, but she does keep tabs on things, and can speak intelligently at length on a number of political issues.

Anyhow, she was at work, and she remarked (in a matter-of-fact way) that Hillary was one of the more conservative nominees in the Democratic primary (I think this was in December). All her uber-conservative coworkers were stunned. "Oh no she's not! She's SUPER liberal!" They went on and on about how god-awful liberal she is, and my wife, having learned her lesson, kept her mouth shut about how understanding primaries requires a sense of nuance.

You are so right. Republicans (men and women) are so ham-fisted in their thinking, they can't see any shades of gray. Of course, the more sophisticated ones(or more crack-addled, as it were) do understand the differences within the Republican nominees, but even then, it's usual talking point stuff. RON PAUL IS THE ONLY MAN QUALIFIED TO BE PRESIDENT!

I guess it's just this simple. (D) means liberal to them. Period. They may as well be saying "Oh my god, she's SO Democratic!"

[Mezzo]

38. I have a progressive family and groups of progressive friends...

and they feel the same way about Obama.

We've all read both books, but no one really likes him anymore.

We get pissed when we hear the racist epithets, but after that, no love.

The 90's were great for me and mine, however. All that Peace and prosperity.

[Hepburn]

15. Good point.

I have always disliked her. This campaign has moved me to the hate column in regard to Hillary. And, yeah, I know of few people who do not have a strong opinion about her ~~ one way or the other.

[Blue_In_AK]

6. It's assumed because some Obama supporters

have said some pretty hateful things about Hillary, parroting nearly every right-wing talking point they could come up with. Initially, I was not a fan of either of these candidates. I leaned a little more toward Hillary probably because I was put off by the Messianic fervor displayed by some Obama supporters. After Obama's speech I'm a bit more favorably impressed with him because I think this time he showed a little more of himself personally rather than just flowery rhetoric.

I think there's been too much invective spewed by both sides. Neither of these candidates is perfect, but neither is as evil as their most vocal detractors would have us believe.

[niceypoo]

7. They preach Unity and Hope but walk hate

They believe the only way to support Obama is by HATING Hillary.

As of now I would probably lean towards Obama if his supporters didn't insist on being so obsessively negative.

In months I have yet to find a single Obama supporter that actually SUPPORTS him. Edwards talked policy ad nauseum, everyone knew where he stood. Obama supporters stand clueless when asked to talk about Obamas policy positions or his record.

Negative reinforcement just doesn't sell well in the Democratic party, hense the 70% of Hillary supporters that say they wouldn't vote for Obama.

[Hepburn]

18. I disliked Hillary Clinton long, long before I had Clue One about...

...who the heck Barack Obama is. I don't need anyone to be "for" in order to be "against" Hillary.

[niceypoo]

21. Against Hillary and Hating Hillary are two different animals

Hate is irrational and has no place in the Democratic party

[TheDoorbellRang]

27. Oh, please. That is not so

You said:

In months I have yet to find a single Obama supporter that actually SUPPORTS him. Edwards talked policy ad nauseum, everyone knew where he stood. Obama supporters stand clueless when asked to talk about Obamas policy positions or his record.

There has been a plethora of posts here that describe Obama's positions and why said poster supports him. If you have not found these posts in the past few months, then either you've been away or you have most Obama supporters on ignore.

Heck, maybe you won't even see this reply. :(

[doyourealize1]

30. I agree with your post n/t

[olkaz]

35. Is that true?

"hense the 70% of Hillary supporters that say they wouldn't vote for Obama."

That is an incredible statistic. Is that true?

My god, Hillary supporters have GOT to get over this. I know there's a level of this type of thing in the Obama camp, but 70% is rampant lunacy.

Seriously, you were never leaning toward Obama.

[polpilot]

8. Because they're part of the general population?

[peace13]

9. I don't hate Hillary.

I don't want her to be President of the United States and to Hillary folk that translates into ..I hate Hillary. If she repeats things often enough people will believe them. She took her lessons from the * play book. peace,Kim

[xultar]

10. I think it is those posts that say I hate Hillary Clinton.

Oh and the posts calling her evil, racist, Republican, despicable, wrecker of the party...

Those posts calling her husband a racist.

Blaming her for her husband's infidelity.


I think those might be a reason why people feel that Obama supporters hate Clinton.

[redqueen]

17. Yup... she's the target of the majority of the idiotic namecalling.

At least that's how it seems to me.

[Arkansas Granny]

12. If you read some of the posts here I think you would find that the hate toward

Hillary is more than "assumed". There's a regular Hillary hatefest going on in GD-P at any given time. There has been some bashing of Obama, but since his supporters outnumber the Hillary supporters by quite a large margin, Hillary has caught the brunt of the negative comments.

[Tyler Durden]

13. You're kidding, right?

Slut, witch, bitch, hag, harridan, republican lite, Rovian...

All adjectives used by Obama supporters. I've got more.

[mmonk]

14. More tactic than assumed.

[The Night Owl]

16. Great post, Captain Oblivious. {EOM}

[americanstranger]

19. It's weird. I've met her and I actually like her.

She is actually a very nice person.

Her style of campaigning has left me cold, and some of the campaign's tactics are offensive on a number of levels. That could conceivably be attributed to the hack tandem of Penn/Wolfson, but the thought that disturbs me is that the candidate has to sign off on the tactics used in the campaign at some point.

Either she approves of the underhanded tactics, or she's letting herself be manipulated into running a dirty campaign. I don't know which of the options is worse, frankly.

- as

[JVS]

20. It's because her supporters are frequently total douchebags

[Mags]

23. the only Obama supporters I know are on the internet.

I don't know one personally , so I can't judge them, except the ones here. They hate everything about her. It's quiet obvious.

[Justyce]

28. Ditto, I've never personally met an Obama supporter in real life.

I've never even seen an Obama sign or sticker. (I'm in a blue county in Texas.) But I guess he's popular enough in the huge cities to make up for his lack of popularity elsewhere.

[Dr Fate]

24. It's an old Rove/Conservative tactic. Remember when conservatives called us "Bush Haters" as well?

Remember that- we didnt have honest disagreements with Bush, but according to conservatives, we harbored an irrational "hatered" of him.

Same exact tactics/logic with the "you just hate Hillary"
BS.

[jesus_of_suburbia]

25. Because so many of his fans here call her racist and say they won't vote for her

if she is the DEMOCRATIC candidate.

[EFerrari]

26. I don't know about hatred but I bet a lot of people who are leaning to Obama

are like me.

I'm a liberal. I didn't start out with either Clinton or Obama.

When my guy dropped out, I didn't see much policy difference between them and, I still don't.

But as the months roll by and as the media makes this into a personality contest, a preference emerges regardless.

I disliked what Clinton did to Tasini. What she has pulled during this campaign is repulsive.

I was Clinton's to lose and she lost me really well.

[emilyg]

33. Maybe because

so many Obama supporters call her a repug. and say they'll never vote for her?

[Pisces]

34. I was not a Hllary hater when this campaign began, however my feelings have

completely changed. I can now not stomach the idea of voting for her. The very idea brings bile to my throat. She has campaigned in a despicable and dishonorable way against a great candidate. I will not help her win if she, with the help of "The Man" wins the nominee. I will write in Obama's name ( the true democratic cadidate) and will campaign to get others to do the same.

[WinkyDink]

36. Because of what we can read on DU? Just taking a wild guess here.

[Mezzo]

37. see how some of the responses substantiate the assumption?

seriously. Look at what some du'ers ON THIS VERY THREAD say about her.

I've never said Obama looks like a rusted out c3po. No one ever assails how he looks. This shit speaks for itself.

[2rth2pwr]

39. dupe