Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

My god, media bias against Senator Obama is the worst I've ever seen

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU
 
Tropics_Dude83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:11 PM
Original message
My god, media bias against Senator Obama is the worst I've ever seen
This is worse than how the media treated VP Gore in 2000, Kerry in 2004, worse than Senator Clinton. In fact, for all of 2007, the media said no one stood a chance to beat her. Only changed for a couple days after Iowa, then they went back to thinking she was inevitable.

CNN's "Situation Room" hasn't had a pro-Obama lead in months. Today's headline was "What is Obama afraid of." Campbell Brown said on the night of the MS primary that Obama "was on the defensive." Jack Cafferty said that Obama's campaign was all but dead on Tuesday. Joe Scarborough on MSNBC is saying that Obama threw his grandma under the bus. The Nafta flap, of which there are many questions, was hammered by the media.

Meanwhile, Senators Mccain and Clinton have mostly favorable coverage each day while Obama is trashed, called a racist, called an african american supremacist. I'm sick of it. It's the most disgusting biased coverage i've ever seen in my entire life. Pastor Wright is played over and over. What about Robertson and Hagee?

Sean Hannity is on Fox each night saying that Obama consorts with terrorists (weather underground)

When a story raising serious questions about Mccain having affairs with a lobbyist and wider questions about his special interest ties arise, the media says "oh my god, what a smear. Our man John Mccain would never do that." Keating 5 anyone?

It is a major outrage. I had doubt about the "corporate media" actually existing. However, it is clear to me now, a long time defender of the media, that the word has gone down from the highest levels that Obama needs to be destroyed.

Nobody can deny that.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:12 PM
Response to Original message
1. Clinton has been enduring this forever. Now the worm has turned.
Quit your bellyaching.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Tropics_Dude83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:14 PM
Response to Reply #1
7. LOL-Hardly
I was told during all of 2007 how presidential she looked, how "superb" she was at the debates, and how she was unbeatable and couldn't be stopped. How she was a bi-partisan senator who got a lot done. How was that negative?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:15 PM
Response to Reply #7
13. Exactly. Remember when she was on all five Sunday shows at once, and
it was billed as a huge coup? Who else got that sort of regal treatment?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 05:24 PM
Response to Reply #7
117. You must have missed OLBERMAN or AIR AMERICA the last few months...
...and the MSM all through the 90s

Obama's supporters need to grow a thicker skin, they fold at the slightest critique.

When you question zealots then they get defensive and if you flat out show them they are wrong they melt down and attack....as zealots are prone to do.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DemzRock Donating Member (824 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:14 PM
Response to Reply #1
9. " Clinton has been enduring this forever. Now the worm has turned." --- So TRUE!
Edited on Thu Mar-20-08 03:16 PM by glenhappy
The media invented or passed on fake scandal after scandal over the Clintons in the 90s. Whitewater was practically invented by the supposedly liberal NY Times.

I sometimes wonder if many Obama fans were alive in the 90s.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:17 PM
Original message
Many of his supporters are were born between 1986-1990.
The young one's most likely didn't remember what happened. I was in middle school during Clintons first year in office and I remember very well how the right wing went after him. I also learned who Rush Limbaugh was that year. :puke:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DemzRock Donating Member (824 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:24 PM
Response to Original message
46. So that's why they don't remember how Bill Clinton turned around the economy...
And made it the practically the best in history.

Longest peacetime expansion in history.

I will vote for any Dem over McCain (unless they pit Lieberman or a Republican on as VP)!

But I trust Hillary more than Obama with the most important thing right now, the economy.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:27 PM
Response to Reply #46
53. I am older than they are, but am still in Obama's key demographic...
18-29 year olds. I am with HRC!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:28 PM
Response to Reply #53
58. Also, I trust HRC the most in the following:
Economy
Foreign Policy
Budget
Tax Fairness
Healthcare
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:38 PM
Response to Reply #46
73. Yeah - she invented the Pentium chip, making the tech boom possible.
:eyes:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 05:38 PM
Response to Reply #46
119. Economy? I suppose you think NAFTA is a success. nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:32 PM
Response to Original message
62. I was born while JFK was president
I remember plenty, and I still support Obama.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:15 PM
Response to Reply #1
15. Very true.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Pawel K Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:16 PM
Response to Reply #1
16. You think the media was unfair toward HRC when they named her the inevitable candidate?
I can't dispute the fact she was treated unfairly for a short while after Obama won Iowa but all other times Obama and the other candidates were getting unfair treatment, she was treated as if nobody could beat her.

So lets not pretend that Obama somehow deserves this just like I'm not gonna pretend Clinton deserved it for the short period she got it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DemzRock Donating Member (824 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:30 PM
Response to Reply #16
61. Why would anyone believe that anyone is the inevitable candidate?
NEVER NEVER count your votes before they hatch.

I really don't remember her being called inevitable that much, but I knew it wouldn't be that easy for her. I actually preferred Edwards, but ignoring him was the media's attack on him, I guess.

Too bad we don't have a major news outlet that is fair, truthful,AND popular.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:42 PM
Response to Reply #61
82. She certainly believed it,
or she would have planned on having to campaign after 2/5. Remember how she spent her way through 43 million dollars on the assumption that she had the thing locked up?

Inevitable?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 04:53 PM
Response to Reply #82
102. As Obama believed he was running a brilliant campaign until now.
They say those things to make the bring down resonate more.

If people were tossing compliments of that magnitude my way day after day, I would probably buy into the garbage myself.

Fortunately for me, nobody ever does that.
:shrug: I don't know whether to :rofl: or :cry:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:35 PM
Response to Reply #16
69. The media helped Obama play the race card against her, helped
him blame her for dirty campaigning everytime something surfaced on Obama that might be negative. The have spun every word she said as somehow being a slight toward him.

And just about every Bamabot here cheered them on, not to mention regularly using the Repuke talking points that the public has been brainwashed with.

You might want to tune into MSNBC sometime, especially Tweety and Olbamerman.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:37 PM
Response to Reply #69
71. Olbameran!
:rofl:

The media and the netroots crowd tried to blame every attack on Obama on HRC.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
dansolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 05:42 PM
Response to Reply #16
121. Clinton's negative press was because she was losing
From the Iowa caucus, through the Wisconsin primary, Hillary's campaign was in shambles. She burned through her money, had no plans for after Super Tuesday, and had no real coherent message. THAT is why she got so much negative press--she was losing when it was supposed to be a foregone conclusion that she would be the nominee.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:40 PM
Response to Reply #1
75. Gee, who were they all talking about when they said
"this will be hers to lose"?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:41 PM
Response to Reply #1
79. Unfortunately, the worm is turning in McCain's favor. nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:44 PM
Response to Reply #1
85. you're right about one thing, Hillary is a Worm
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 05:10 PM
Response to Reply #1
111. PS--the stuff they used against Gore and Kerry was F.A.B.R.I.C.A.T.E.D!
Edited on Thu Mar-20-08 05:11 PM by anamandujano
This stuff against Obama is R.E.A.L.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Fresh_Start Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:12 PM
Response to Original message
2. sharks attack when there is blood in the water
Obama's been bloodied
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:13 PM
Response to Original message
3. Yeah, he is just so lucky he is black
:sarcasm:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:13 PM
Original message
Well Jack Cafferty just said on CNN that Obama has all but won the nomination....
In fact that is his question of the day on CNN right now.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:37 PM
Response to Original message
72. The key words being "but" and "question."
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:13 PM
Response to Original message
4. lol
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
elixir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:13 PM
Response to Original message
5. He will survive this, the question is - will his campaign?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:13 PM
Response to Original message
6. We warned you all that the media love affair with Obama would end
They propped him up, because then it's so much more effective when they tear him down.

And frankly, you haven't seen nothing yet.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DemzRock Donating Member (824 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:15 PM
Response to Reply #6
12. Err yep. I've been trying to warn the newbies for a while. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:17 PM
Original message
Yup, been saying this since day one. This is a media created horse race of epic proportions.
They're literally going to take it to the convention.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:22 PM
Response to Original message
39. This nomination is not worth much anymore.
At least my father thinks so. He said that the divisions are too strong to heal and that alot more on Obama is going to come out.
If there is anymore problems with Obama, they will sink him in the fall.
My father thinks very little of Obama but will hold his nose and give a vote anyways. I can't do that in good faith, so....
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:34 PM
Response to Reply #39
66. Well, don't think that way. Obviously Obama is looking to be very bad if nominated.
He can't handle scrutiny and he's gone from a racial uniter to a racial divider. But that doesn't mean you shouldn't vote for him. Even if the polls as of today show him losing huge battleground states, it shouldn't matter.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:39 PM
Response to Reply #66
74. I have three choices for President at this time:
Hillary Clinton, Tweedle Dee, and Tweedle Dum.

Chances are against Hillary Clinton getting the nod, so I have to chose between the two that I don't care for.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:22 PM
Response to Reply #6
36. That is indeed their standard MO n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Carni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:25 PM
Response to Reply #6
48. This is NOTHING
Wait until he wins the nom....it will be a bloodbath and a whole lot of people will be crying in their Merlot wondering what happened.

Unlike the Clintons and the Edwards-- The GOP will not care how they come across in the run up to the election.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:34 PM
Response to Reply #6
67. We didn't need you or anyone else to warn us about anything.
Hillary the Inevitable was the one who was propped up, not Senator Obama.

They threw everything at him, including the kitchen sink, -- nothing stuck -- so they had to crucify him, not for anything he has said or done, but through his pastor. Give me a fucking break.

Don't jump for joy to soon, Hillary has yet to be vetted this time around.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:14 PM
Response to Original message
8. They are trying to take him down. If it works, I'm out of the Dem party and politics.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:17 PM
Response to Reply #8
18. If it works, I'm out of the Dem party and politics.
Me too.

Might as well become an Independant so I can yell at the assh*les on both sides of the aisle.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:18 PM
Response to Reply #18
20. You two must not have been around for 2000. Or just have very short memories.
I've been "out" of politics before I even really began to be "in" politics. It's all entertainment.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:19 PM
Response to Reply #20
24. Al Gore was the first President I voted for.
I remember all to well how the rw tore him down.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:21 PM
Response to Reply #24
34. Same here. And I remember all too well how the media treated him.
I mean whole 2 hour news segments on what he was *wearing* for Christs sake!

And why did the media vilify him? Because he was ahead. They can't have someone ahead, now can they? They have to prop up someone else. Make it a race. Make it last as long as possible.

(I didn't vote for Clinton because he was a shoein that second time, so Gore was my first 'meaningful' vote.)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 04:33 PM
Response to Reply #34
101. They pulled that stuff on Gore during the general, didn't they?
The clothing, the internet, and wrong guy to have a beer with?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:21 PM
Response to Reply #20
30. You two must not have been around for 2000.
Its because I WAS around that I would have thought our Party wouldnt put up with this anymore no matter which of our candidates they are doing it too.

I guess you like having this happen by your response.


:eyes:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:23 PM
Response to Reply #30
42. Your "party" has no power over media created sentiments.
Sorry, but that's reality. Perhaps the candidates have a say, a sacrifical stepping down and all, but it's unlikely to happen for either candidate, because they both think they're shoeins were they to get the nomination.

But they both fail to realize just how much they're splitting the party.

And the media is loving them for it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:46 PM
Response to Reply #20
88. Well, that helps explain your valuable contributions here. nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:20 PM
Response to Reply #18
25. I am an independent.
I am not the property of any party.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:21 PM
Response to Reply #8
28. Why take it out of the Dem party?
It's the MSM that builds people up just to tear them down. It's their favorite pasttime.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:33 PM
Response to Reply #28
65. They need to learn how to fight this--they didn't with Gore or Kerry or
Dean, and now apparently they won't come to defend Obama either. Therefore, let them lose, and maybe they'll do better in 2012.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:41 PM
Response to Reply #65
78. You don't think the media has
waaaay more to do with all three of those situations? What did you want/expect the party to do?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:49 PM
Response to Reply #78
90. I expect the party to send out its top leaders to condemn the media's
swiftboating of ANY candidate, same as all Republicans came out for McCain when the NYT story broke, and then suddenly the media abandoned the story--a true story with merit and actual wrongdoing, by the way, as opposed to Obama's pastor saying some dumb things in church. I expect the party--Edwards, Gore, Kennedy, Pelosi, Reid, Durbin, Biden, etc.--to hit the airwaves and tell the media to stop the smear-by-association game, to defend Obama, to ask about McCain's past associations. That's the kind of fighting they should be doing--instead, the cowardly lions and brainless scarecrows are standing back and watching, with a curious detachment, while their best and brightest candidate, their best hope for an energized new party, is being mercilessly attacked for words that are not his, mercilessly attacked because he's friends with an angry black preacher instead of an angry white preacher. It's fine to let him defend himself, and he did it beautifully--but until Dems in PA, NC, and IN see that the Dem leadership supports him, he is going to lose ground.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:53 PM
Response to Reply #90
94. I agree on that point
Does anyone have an explanation as to why they are silent?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:21 PM
Response to Reply #8
29. Sorry dupe
Edited on Thu Mar-20-08 03:21 PM by leftynyc
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DemzRock Donating Member (824 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:27 PM
Response to Reply #8
56. I don't blame you for feeling that way...
But politics has always been effing dirty in America.

And it's always been about who is the lessor of evils.

Even Obama would only be the lessor of two evils against McCain.

Why? Because he's only human. And he's only a politician. He's flawed. Has skeletons in his closet like any politician.

Moral of the story: Don't worship any pol.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:32 PM
Response to Reply #56
63. I don't "worship" him at all--I don't know why anyone thinks I would.
I admire him, I think he's a skilled politician and more honest than most, but not perfect, certainly. I see him as the Dem party's best hope right now, not just for winning the GE but for renewing the party and changing some old/harmful habits, and I trust him to get us out of Iraq as painlessly as possible.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:50 PM
Response to Reply #56
92. Yes.
I don't worship political types. I respect some more than others and have a great distaste for most.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:15 PM
Response to Original message
10. ROFL. You think that this is worse than 2000 and 2004.
Just wait until the fall, you will really get to feel what 2000/2004 were like.
Strange how you Obama folk loved the media when the were acting as servants to Mr. Obama. Now that there are some questions, you are in a panic.
HRC had to deal with this crap from day one. Also, you Obamites and the moveon.org mob latched onto the right wing talking points to assualt HRC.
A little critisism and you Obamites are not crying bloody murder. :eyes: :nopity:
If this is how you are going to handle the critisism now, your guy is going to collapse in the fall.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5176289
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:15 PM
Response to Original message
11. The Democrats better wake the hell up...
He will be of no use on the ticket as VP if they sit by and let this character assassination continue. And without Obama on ticket, Goodbye Hillary.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:15 PM
Response to Original message
14. Were you outraged when the media ignored John Edwards?
There was a time when it was all "The Barack and Hillary Show" 24/7.

Were you outraged that there was no fairness then?

Some of us knew at the time it would come to this. M$M has plans for our next President, and the choice has already been made. We've been had. Again.

Bursting Obama's bubble is just the latest step in the grand plan.

Soon, McSame will be elevated to great heights of adoration. The M$M in their self-serving way will advise one and all he's really the best choice.

:(
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:16 PM
Response to Original message
17. They're continuing the horse race, now that they put Obama up 150 delegates, they're giving the...
...rest of the states to Hillary, split evenly or overall handing them to her.

This means that we are going to the convention if one or the other doesn't step down.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Tropics_Dude83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:19 PM
Response to Reply #17
21. Exactly Josh and about Mccain
There hasn't been a SINGLE negative news day for him since he wrapped up the nomination. Hmmm......
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:20 PM
Response to Reply #21
27. We haven't heard much about him either.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:17 PM
Response to Original message
19. What's disgusting is it's NOT HIS WORDS OR ACTIONS that are driving it
It's the words of a close associate.

If Obama is to be cited as having "poor judgment" in standing by Wright, then
what can be said about Hillary's judgment in standing by Bill? Yes, it's a
private matter, but so is Obama's choice in church/pastor.

Obama's response about this ought to be similar to HRC's comments about Bill's
remarks/actions ... "WELL, HE'S NOT RUNNING; I AM."
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:19 PM
Response to Reply #19
22. You're comparing forgivness to bigotry?
I sometimes am surprised by such assinine comparisons.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:21 PM
Response to Reply #22
35. Forgiveness of an older black man's MISGUIDED anger
is what I'm talking about. It's OK that HRC forgave Bill but Obama's not
supposed to be forgive Wright????

"HE'S NOT RUNNING; I AM."
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:27 PM
Response to Reply #35
57. With an enabler who is a candidate for our nominee.
He calls himself a leader but sits idly by while the anger is preached for 20 years, to thousands of people, even to his own children.

Where is the leadership? Where is the judgment?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:19 PM
Response to Original message
23. No doubt. But don't worry. He's already got the nomination
wrapped up. This swiftboat too shall pass, and the next one, and the next one, until the convention is finally over and Hillary has returned to the dustbin of history.

The only thing to really worry about is violence and that IS worth worrying about, imho.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:24 PM
Response to Reply #23
44. These are precisely the sorts of comments that worry me
Many people don't seem to care whether he has an reasonable chance at winning in November- they just want to get on with the coronation, irrespective of how badly the candidacy may be damaged.

Hell with everyone else who will suffer under yet another Republican administration.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:26 PM
Response to Reply #44
51. You're worried that a corrupt racist hack might get what she deserves?
I worry that she won't.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:34 PM
Response to Reply #51
68. Are you calling Hillary Clinton racist?
Wow.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:41 PM
Response to Reply #68
77. Yes, and I heard her clearly demonstrate that racism
in a MTP interview on Jan. 13 of this year. Look it up and you can hear it yourself. It isn't simply a "tactic," it's also an emotional hatred that resonates in her voice. Pretty disgusting frankly.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:41 PM
Response to Reply #68
80. Look at their name. It is earily similar to a certain website...
Edited on Thu Mar-20-08 03:47 PM by AX10
that openly preaches hate against HRC.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:44 PM
Response to Reply #80
86. Eary, isn't it?
:crazy:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:46 PM
Response to Reply #44
89. Exactly. Let's throw the baby out with the bath water. Give Bama the nod and
let him lose in peace.

It doesn't really matter if the citizens continue to get fucked over, nah.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:49 PM
Response to Reply #89
91. It would be nice to get the damn primary over with and get to work,
but no, we've got this media-created ringer hanging around like a bad cough.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:55 PM
Response to Reply #91
95. This stuff is reaching critical mass.
It may take another week or so to shake out but I'm guessing he'll have to step down. We can't win with Obama's baggage.

Hillary will be the nominee.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:58 PM
Response to Reply #95
97. Ahem, what about all those votes, states, delegates he's already won?
A Fox-CNN shit fit won't make those go away, except in your daydreams.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 04:59 PM
Response to Reply #97
104. When he drops out, those delegates won't mean sh*t. There is also
Edited on Thu Mar-20-08 05:00 PM by anamandujano
a concept known as buyer's remorse.

If you check the rules, there is something about pledged delegates changing their minds also.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 04:02 PM
Response to Reply #89
99. Thing is, I've heard the same sorts of deals from both sides
Lately, the whinging has been from the Obama camp- and I've found it particularly disturbing, because the candidate was largely untested- and many of us knew that this (and probably other minefields) were out there.

While I thought the speech was fine- I wasn't without some objective reservations, and it would seem that it's not playing quite as well on main street as many hoped.

The silver lining is that this all comes out early, and there's still some chance to deal with it if things really get out of hand.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 05:02 PM
Response to Reply #99
106. True, he was unvetted to the point of being almost a total stranger.
There is no silver lining to this.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 05:56 PM
Response to Reply #44
122. Isn't it fun
copying posts about Hillary, with a switch in the gender?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:20 PM
Response to Original message
26. PUSH BACK.
Write back to those outlets.

Send their distortions to Media Matters.

Circulate what you see to your networks.

We lost Howard Dean to this bullshit. Are you willing to lose Obama, too? Or to lose in November, for that matter?'

YOU CAN PUSH BACK. JUST DO IT.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:21 PM
Response to Original message
31. You seem to have a short memory
because this is nothing compared with what's gone down countless times in the past.

The difference here may be the contrast from the time the media touted him as golden and beyond reproach. Seasoned observers knew that wouldn't continue- and that the far right machine (part of which OWNS the so called "mainstream" media) was simply waiting for its moment.

The moment came- and it's here to stay, so people better get used to it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Tropics_Dude83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:22 PM
Response to Reply #31
37. My problem is that Mccain gets NO CRITICISM WHATSOEVER
And Clinton has been handed that treatment lately as well.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:44 PM
Response to Reply #37
84. Hopefully, that will change
The Dems have TONS of ammunition.

But, as always- the question is whether the will use it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:52 PM
Response to Reply #37
93. In all fairness, even Paris Hilton is fighting for air time since this Wright story broke.
Not to worry, the MSM is always looking for a way to criticize Hillary, so they'll be on the case asap.

As far as McCain goes, we will be treated to him riding in open door helicopters, flying over war zones and philosophizing about where our country needs to go. He will not take any punches from them whatsoever.

You can take it to the bank.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
onefreespiritedchick Donating Member (846 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:21 PM
Response to Original message
32. I agree, and this is just plain out cruelty...
on the media's part. This man has done nothing to deserve this.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:21 PM
Response to Original message
33. it is not bias. it is what gets ratings. this is a reflection of america folks...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:23 PM
Response to Reply #33
40. What color is the sky in your world?
This is the same media that tarred Clinton and Cleland and Dean and Kerry.

It is no more a reflection of "America" than Dick Cheney's face.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Tropics_Dude83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:26 PM
Response to Reply #40
50. It's hopeless
I mean we saw a great man John Kerry tarred and feathered over his heroic Vietnam service. We were told that it was all a LIE. He did nothing.

The media took it all in and said yep indeed, that's how it is. He faked his Vietnam service. Meanwhile, there was horrendous outrage when Dan Rather presents a mostly true and accurate with one excception portrayal of how Bush ducked out of his Vietnam service.

It's nearly impossible to get a Democrat elected president in the US.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:27 PM
Response to Reply #50
54. It's not hopeless this year.
The Republican racist base will act up but most Americans are sick of them.

Do not give in to their crap.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:24 PM
Response to Reply #33
47. It's a reflection of the big business assholes who used to run America.
But I think that's all changed now, so they better get used to the back of the bus.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:03 PM
Response to Reply #47
124. i have friends in the Industry. when they stopped talking about Monica. ratings fell. same here
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Carni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:22 PM
Response to Original message
38. Were you in a cave in 00 and 04?
Please... he isn't dealing with a tenth of what Gore did (or kerry for that matter)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:23 PM
Response to Reply #38
43. Gore had the worse treatment by far.
HRC too (throughout her 16 years).
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:23 PM
Response to Original message
41. I don't think Hillary's press has been all that good. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 05:06 PM
Response to Reply #41
107. It's been a veritable nightmare and yet she is neck and neck. Add to that
the fact that Obama has outspent her at least 2 to 1, sometimes rising to 4 to 1.

It's clear the voters will have none of the media deciding our candidate, just as we did with Gore and Kerry who both won.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
knight_of_the_star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:24 PM
Response to Original message
45. Wimp
You never got the Edwards treatment, your guy got the whole thing from the media that all they didn't say was the sun shines out of Obama's ass and now you're bitching because the media is hitting Obama for that not being the case. The media built him up, the media will tear him to pieces just as easily.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
UALRBSofL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:25 PM
Response to Original message
49. You think this is the worse media bias you have ever seen???
Were you around when the Bigdog was in office? Get back to me when Obama is impeached.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Tropics_Dude83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:27 PM
Response to Reply #49
55. Impeachment was political-everybody knows that
He was impeached yeah but the media hammered the republicans for doing it and we all knew by late January that he would survive it. Democrats actually picked up seats that year in the midterms.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
crankychatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:26 PM
Response to Original message
52. Clinton Supporters Should Confess
They LOVE the bias

They, like she, don't care HOW she wins.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
nomaco-10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:29 PM
Response to Original message
59. Then you must have been SOUND ASLEEP....
Edited on Thu Mar-20-08 03:38 PM by nomaco-10
when the MSM played the Governor, Doctor Howard Dean's SUPPOSED concession speech in Iowa on a loop for 24/7 for 10 days.

All Dean did, was yell a few state's names, but Obama has got Jeremiah Wright's utterly and somewhat, unrefutable divisive speech on racism on loop for 24/7 for eternity.

As a die hard ,Obama supporter, all I can say is, that this is bad people. PERIOD.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
screembloodymurder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:30 PM
Response to Original message
60. I agree. We must get control of the media.
Democracy depends on our taking action.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:32 PM
Response to Original message
64. ***** please watch this great video *********** from this morning
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:36 PM
Response to Original message
70. What if Obama drops out of the race and does not endorse anyone?
And refuses the second spot on the ticket? What happens then?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:45 PM
Response to Reply #70
87. Millions of his supporters will be too pissed off to vote in November?
That would be good for Democrats. :sarcasm:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:58 PM
Response to Reply #70
96. When he drops out, his endorsement will be less than worthless.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 04:05 PM
Response to Reply #96
100. Actually, both candidates could endorse a 3rd at the convention
who would then take on McCain relatively unstained. Now THAT would really light up Americans' interest and foul up the GOP's well laid plans.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 04:57 PM
Response to Reply #100
103. Bull. Hillary has earned the nomination. No one would want someone
who sat by while the two we have now did the grueling work of the primaries.

Gore, Edwards, or whoever else you're thinking of have not paid their dues this time around.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 07:11 PM
Response to Reply #103
126. Historically, this is what's been done
No reason why it couldn't (and perhaps shouldn't) happen this time.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DemzRock Donating Member (824 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:41 PM
Response to Original message
76. Actually Bill Clinton had the worst treatment by far in the 90's...
The media echoed tons of lies against him.

But he was able to use his brilliant speaking talent and connections to turn things around for him.

He actually had the highest approval ratings of his career while he was being impeached for sex.

The trick is to get the public to realize that you are being unfairly treated, and that the unfounded attacks are interfering with what you are trying to do for the public.

The problem with the Wright thing is that too many people aren't ready to hear his message and it seems extremist. It's not the racial thing. It's the extremism.

If it was ONLY his pastor and not his MENTOR, then Obama could say that the media is trying to apply guilt by association to him. But Wright is his mentor. I think the Wright has a lot of good points, except for the HIV conspiracy thing. But most American lunkheads aren't ready for it.

Oh, well.


Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:42 PM
Response to Original message
81. Fall off a turnip truck last night? I haven't seen a candidate since Reagan whom the media promoted
the way they push Obama. An inexperienced, local politician with virtually no resume is running for the highest office in the land, and they barely point out that he's the least qualified candidate to ever get this close to the presidency? Heck, even Bush had a little experience, and he was way too green.

Understand what's going on. The media wants McCain as president. They pushed Obama and smeared Clinton so he could get the nomination. Then they planned to pull the rug out from under him so McCain would win. Now their mantra is that the Dems are destroying themselves, so they are helping. Now that Obama has it sewn up, they are shredding him. There's the outside chance that Clinton will get the nomination, but the MSM knows that if she does, it will divide the party and create racial strife against her. That, combined with the crap they will unleash on her, would make it hard for her to beat McCain.

And you ain't seen nothing yet. Wait until they start swiftboating Obama. This is child's play, so far. If this brings him down, he was far weaker than even I thought.

The reason so many Dems dislike Clinton is because the MSM already did this to her. The reason Gore didn't win in a landslide is because the MSM did this to him. The reason Kerry didn't win... You get the picture. The MSM shapes our opinions, and most Democrats don't realize they've drunk the Kool-Aide until after the candidate has lost. Then, on reflection, slowly the confessions and the articles come out proving it was all a smear campaign by the media, but by then another Democrat has lost.

The MSM has barely begun to attack Obama. That's what many of us have been saying for over a year now. He doesn't have the experience to deal with this, and his race doesn't make him fireproof, despite such claims from his followers. This is EXACTLY what we meant. And it will get worse.

That's why they wanted Obama instead of Clinton. Clinton has been through it, she knows what's coming. Obama is so inexperienced he is "shaken up" by it. Maybe he'll pull it together yet, and beat McCain. Not the way he's going about it now, though. He's a long way away from local Illinois, and even further away from an easy Senate victory over candidates that self-destructed. He's in the biggest game on the planet now, and he skipped the minor leagues.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 05:08 PM
Response to Reply #81
109. Bingo, and Thank you!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
futureliveshere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:43 PM
Response to Original message
83. Silver Linings!!
Its been a tough week for BO but there are some silver linings here:

1. Obama can no longer be called a muslim, madrassa educated islamic fundamentalist.

2. This Wright blowup would have come about at sometime during the whole election process. Its good that it has come out now when there is a large gap b/w primaries and Obama has enough time to build a response (as he is very effectively doing) and when he has already taken the lead.

3. HRC papers will start taking the lime-light soon and I am just DROOLING with anticipation for when she releases her tax returns a few days before the PA nomination.

4. Obama was expected to lose PA anyways, so he doesn't have too much to lose right now. He can play for all w/o worrying about the results.

Think strategic always. This is the war we are waging, we can afford to lose an occasional battle to keep us sharp. You think the politically entrenched, big-business combines (inc. media) will give up so easily?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:59 PM
Response to Reply #83
98. Very good points.
The beast can get pretty ugly. Just ask the Kennedys.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BigDDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 05:01 PM
Response to Original message
105. Before: blank slate
now: not so much
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
chocome Donating Member (130 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 05:07 PM
Response to Original message
108. West Virginia . 58 % say Obama received better media treatmet than HRC
Fifty-eight percent (58%) say that Obama has received better media treatment than Clinton. Just 16% believe that Clinton has benefitted from media preference

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/west_virginia/west_virginia_democratic_presidential_primary
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
cooolandrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 05:09 PM
Response to Original message
110. We only need ot turn it off it is the electric vampire expect olberman...
Edited on Thu Mar-20-08 05:10 PM by cooolandrew
Listen novamradio.comand headonradionetwork.com You life will be much much better.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
cooolandrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 05:10 PM
Response to Reply #110
112. It's our primary not theirs for the sake of Gore Kerry Dean let's not let them do this.
Edited on Thu Mar-20-08 05:11 PM by cooolandrew
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 05:13 PM
Response to Original message
113. He obviously terrifies them.
They might actually have to get off their butts and do some work when he's President and ends corporate control of our media.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
JorgeTheGood Donating Member (736 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 05:17 PM
Response to Original message
114. They did far worse than this to
Bill Clinton during his Monica days and we (tax payers) spent $70 million to try to nail him.

Tell your guy Obama to toughen up or move out of the way.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 05:20 PM
Response to Original message
115. They did it to Dean and it was oh so easy
Just a ten second clip, a little manipulation of the audio, run it 20 times per show, rinse, repeat.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DerekJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 05:21 PM
Response to Original message
116. We all expected that. Obama didn’t fall in line with the status quo. Relax
They are really scared of him. That won’t change a thing. They are Idiots, they are toooo late. His base is much too strong now.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
JorgeTheGood Donating Member (736 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 05:32 PM
Response to Reply #116
118. The MSM is afraid of no one ... period.
they can ruin anyone they want in short order ... ask Dan Rather, Howard Dean, John Kerry, Al Gore, Max Cleland, Cynthia McKinney, Eliot Spitzer ...

and they can hand out a pass just as easily ... ask Foley, Larry Craig, Vitter, the bugman ...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 05:41 PM
Response to Original message
120. you cannot be serious
it was (as has been said before) the corporate republican-owned media that built up obama from relative obscurity to where he is now and it is the same media that will destroy him.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:00 PM
Response to Original message
123. Oh my!
You haven't been watching or noticing the bias against Hillary on MSM. Where have you been? Errr.... don't answer!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Aussie leftie Donating Member (430 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:10 PM
Response to Original message
125. If you are worried for Obama now
How is he going to survive the presidential election. The media and republicans have only just begun.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Wed Apr 24th 2024, 07:51 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC