This wanna be Empresses has no clothes

[nels25]

Now that the is irrefutable fact from her own files that Hillary did in fact favor the passage of NAFTa and lobby heavily for it, one can only conclude that the stereo type that the Clinton's will in fact say or do what ever is needed to gain power is beyond debate.

Hillary have you no shame, no shred of decency?? (of course not)!!:hide:

[durrrty libby]

1. Except that Gergen states otherwise. Tsk Tsk

Fmr. Clinton advisor confirms Hillary was critical of NAFTA


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQJxtzLQ51Q

[Bigleaf]

3. Gergen? He was part of the NAFTA crowd with her. Tsk Tsk

And yet, despite all of this evidence, Clinton has worked to confuse voters by insisting that she has always been fighting against NAFTA. As I've written in another post, it is a tactic reminiscent of Joe Lieberman denying he supported the Iraq War in the lead up to his 2006 election contest with Ned Lamont. And it is a tactic that Establishment shills have tried to embolden. As just one example, the esteemed David Gergen has used his television platform to back up Clinton's historical revisionism - and Gergen has been cited by others as "proof" Clinton's claims are true - despite, of course, her very own words.

ABC's Jake Tapper digs even deeper, noting that at one of the meetings, Gergen "served as a sort of master of ceremonies as various women members of the Cabinet talked up NAFTA." In other words, Gergen has been on television deliberately lying for the Clinton campaign, as he was actually running these NAFTA-promoting events with Clinton. Tapper goes on to interview people who were in the room.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/3/20/111456/222/328/480723

[VolcanoJen]

4. It's pretty funny that that's the only defense they've been able to conjure up.

Oh, you say the First Lady schedules show she was a big NAFTA supporter and held meetings and lied to the voters of Ohio?

Gergen says she wasn't "enthusiastic," so there!!

:rofl:

[MonkeyFunk]

5. The schedule doesn't really show

she was a "big NAFTA supporter".

Come on, be fair.

[nels25]

6. I heard Jake Tapper (ABC NEWS) report

that he had talked to women in attendence at one of the meeting and that she (Hilliary) lobbied hard for the passage and support of NAFTA.

Given the Clinton's track record I believe I will take his version over hers.

Especially since so much was left out or recated in what was released to the press.

It is still legitimate to ask what are she and he (Bill) hiding??

[MonkeyFunk]

8. That's not the schedule, is it?

that's a third-hand report.

Like most politicos, she could very well have opposed it, fought to change it, but once the decision was made, didn't take her fight public.

The funny part is that the adminjistration's biggest cheerleader for NAFTA was Al Gore, who most here want to get the nomination.

[Bigleaf]

7. Really?

Two attendees of that closed-door briefing, neither of whom are affiliated with any campaign, describe that event for ABC News. It was a room full of women involved in international trade. David Gergen served as a sort of master of ceremonies as various women members of the Cabinet talked up NAFTA, which had yet to pass Congress.

"It wasn’t a drop-by it was organized around her participation," said one attendee. "Her remarks were totally pro-NAFTA and what a good thing it would be for the economy. There was no equivocation for her support for NAFTA at the time. Folks were pleased that she came by. If this is a still a question about what Hillary's position when she was First Lady, she was totally supportive of NAFTA.

And what is this attendee's response to Clinton today distancing herself from NAFTA? "For people who worked hard to pass NAFTA and who support the importance of markets opening for the economy in the long term, they're very upset. A number of the women who were there are very upset. You need to have some integrity in your position. The Clintons when Bill Clinton was president took a moderate position on trade for Democrats. For her to repudiate that now seems pretty phony."

Women who attended that event, the second attendee says, have been incredulous to see Clinton distance herself from the trade agreement as she campaigns today. "They're all saying, 'What's this all about?' We all heard it firsthand." She says Clinton isn't being honest with voters today.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/03/clintons-1993-n.html

[MonkeyFunk]

9. whoops

replied in wrong spot.

[Drachasor]

10. All evidence indicates she wanted to focus on Health Care first, not that she opposed NAFTA itself

She just didn't like NAFTA taking away energy and political muscle from her Health Care plans. It was not that she hated NAFTA or thought it shouldn't get passed. Even Gergen touches on that in that video.

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[LaurenG]

11. Wow...

can you fight any dirtier or is this best you have.