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Tue May-04-04 10:06 PM
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"John Kerry is really staying on...no message." |
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Tue May-04-04 10:07 PM
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1. "Please explain to me why John Kerry sounds more dickish |
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Edited on Tue May-04-04 10:08 PM by khephra
than when Bush is lying?"
When Jon is saying these things, we have a PROBLEM.
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Tue May-04-04 10:09 PM
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2. I always thought Jon was pretty non-partisan. |
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Tue May-04-04 10:10 PM
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3. He is, but he's not a Bush fan either |
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His bit on Kerry was horrible...for Kerry.
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Tue May-04-04 10:15 PM
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4. Horrible but accurate. |
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Face it, Kerry's far from perfect. His image problems aren't 100% Republican spin.
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Tue May-04-04 10:17 PM
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6. It's not the end of the world. |
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Stop panicking or gloating or whatever you're doing.
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Tue May-04-04 10:21 PM
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I'm voting for Kerry, but he's running a very lackluster campaign. He better get on top of it, as the comedy shows are starting to repeat that message over and over. He's got to get out and get on top of it.
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Wed May-05-04 02:51 AM
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This campoaign is starting way earlier than typical -- and Bush is spending tens of millions to stay close.
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Wed May-05-04 06:58 AM
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13. yeah shut up and get in line kephra. |
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the kerry thought police have spoken.
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Wed May-05-04 10:02 AM
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16. readers digest versio of Pravda |
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For the thought police DU should be as if the readers digest version of Pravda. I’ve also noticed that an exorbitant number of the thought police miss allusions and are no fun to play with. Heh I’ll prolly be thought of as a 'snob' for referring to Pravda. When DU users fail to follow even common similes something is wrong.
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Wed May-05-04 12:03 PM
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23. It's 6 months until the election |
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And Kerry likes to save his energy for the last month or so.
That they're neck and neck right now makes me extremely happy, Kerry'll win by 5 points, and gain 4 of them in October.
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Wed May-05-04 11:55 PM
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33. I keep hearing this argument |
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but perceptions are being formed now, & it may be too late to change them.
Because the primaries finished early, & because of Iraq, this is not a typical election year. I heard some pollster say the number of people paying very close attention to the race, is MUCH higher than it would normally be.
What has me worried is Bush numbers go down, people are unhappy, but Kerry negatives are going up. Kerry is NOT giving people a reason to vote for him. Yes, many are unhappy with Bush, but are they turning to Kerry? Not yet.
Now is not the time to sit on his money. If Kerry starts moving up, his fund raising will also increase.
When will we see negative ads against Bush? About his flip flops, about the mistakes made in this war, about the deficit, about the growing gap between rich & middleclass, and about Bush lies?
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Wed May-05-04 08:35 AM
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14. You're right it's not the end of the world, but the weakest |
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"supporters" often panic at the drop of a hat.
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Tue May-04-04 10:17 PM
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7. Jon's obviously a liberal, if you see him elsewhere |
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But he doesn't play favorites on his show. He goes after Dems and Repugs equally, and I don't have a real problem with it.
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Wed May-05-04 08:59 PM
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31. Jon Stewart is TOTALLY partisan... |
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on our side. He doesn't even bother to hide his disdain for bush et al. We make fun of Kerry too, but we're still behind him.
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Tue May-04-04 10:16 PM
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But no one cares if Kerry has no message!!
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Tue May-04-04 10:17 PM
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8. I am not enjoying him tonight; not as funny as usual |
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but Joe Wilson will be on, maybe it will get better.
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Tue May-04-04 10:20 PM
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9. "released by a douchebag" |
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Edited on Tue May-04-04 10:21 PM by Cush
"she wields a mean AK 47"
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Wed May-05-04 12:36 PM
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24. Novak was the douchebag. |
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A rather fitting description actually.
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Wed May-05-04 02:46 AM
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11. Kerry needs to tell the truth about Iraq . . . |
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not that it was a mistake, but that it was a deliberate deception that had nothing to do with WMD or terrorism . . . that he won't do this tells me that he either a) doesn't believe it, or b) is not telling the truth for some misguided political purpose . . . either way, it's a huge disappointment . . . I'm certainly voting for him, but I sure wish he'd give me a reason or two to be enthusiastic about it . . .
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Wed May-05-04 08:43 AM
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Kerry ALWAYS starts slowly. Remember last summer when before a single vote was cast people were writing him off.
He peaks at approximately three weeks before the election. John is still in low-tide mode because he knows nobody is paying attention yet.
Wait until September. If Kerry is still in low-tide mode then, I'll start to worry alongside of you.
But I don't think that's going to be the case. Kerry is a slow, but steady climber and he'll creep up on Bush before too long and overtake him.
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Wed May-05-04 10:02 AM
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17. The worry is the GOTV money Bush has. |
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Wed May-05-04 10:08 AM
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18. if money is what scares you |
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then be scared, because there's nothing you can do about Bush's ability to raise money or how he's going to use it.
I worry about what I can control. And right now I don't feel any anxiety over Kerry's performance so far.
He's fine.
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Wed May-05-04 10:16 AM
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20. they dont need to raise money they only do i because they can |
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and it is the golden calf. They have inconceivable amounts of cash stashed in the Caymans. Ask Catherine Austin Fitts.
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Wed May-05-04 08:13 PM
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29. except the DLC won't be able to order a hit |
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from the corporate media on Bush and Cheney like they did to Dean in January.
The corporate media is more loyal to Bush than Kerry, even though they were more loyal to Kerry than Dean.
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Wed May-05-04 10:15 AM
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19. I was a diehard Kerry convert, still am, (from DK) but he's |
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simply got to be more aggressive. He needs it to get the press and the swing voters interested.
Forget appealing to die-hard Dems; liberal/progressives are either on the bandwagon or not by now. It's time to dazzle the independents.
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Wed May-05-04 10:40 AM
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21. Needs to speak simple and straight |
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I too am a convert but the seeds of worry have been planted with me.
Bush is a simpleton and that appeals to much of the media and populace.
Kerry can't nuance around issues like he seems to have been. I don't know why he feels the need. He's gotten a lot of bad press in the last week, little of it on issues, much on behavior.
I really don't get how Kerry can screw this up but he might just be doing exactly that. If Kerry can't mop the floor with Bush then he really doesn't deserve to be elected.
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Wed May-05-04 12:01 PM
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The truth hurt sometimes, eh?
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Wed May-05-04 12:56 PM
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25. what does having "no message" mean? |
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I've heard that a lot, but I've never gotten it. :shrug:
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Wed May-05-04 01:01 PM
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"It sounds bad, even if it means nothing"
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Wed May-05-04 01:05 PM
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27. And it's working ... wonderfully! |
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Still running neck-and-neck against a war-time incumbent who has already spent tens of millions in attack.
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Wed May-05-04 03:18 PM
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C'mon, people. The difference between us and them (beyond their having no souls, y'know) is that we can LAUGH at ourselves. How can you support something if you can't laugh at it as well?
Good job, Jon, great show last night. Nofacts IS a douchebag.
Later.
RJS
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Wed May-05-04 08:21 PM
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30. Right on! (hey they have no souls...snark snark) |
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That's why I come here.
Also, Jon Stewart broils the Repukes 99% of the time. The most he can say about Kerry is that he seems to have no message, and sounds a little squirmy. Yeah he does. But has my husband says, all Kerry needs to do is to say: I'm not Bush.
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Wed May-05-04 09:52 PM
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32. Jon Stewart HATES Bush... |
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He's even said that he wants a new president numerous times in previous episodes.
The Kerry bit was accurate. Maybe it'll force Kerry's camp to get off its dead ass, b/c they aren't taking advantage of things like the bad economy, the 9/11 hearings, the prison abuse in Iraq, the terrible handling of the war, and on and on and on... Kerry needs to get with it. The fact that he was in Vietnam won't carry him to November.
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