seriousstan
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Thu Mar-20-08 06:31 PM
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As a typical white person who had my fears bred into me, why does Obama go to a creationist church? |
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Are we now to believe that this is just one more teaching he has not heard for 20 years? I am beginning to wonder what part of this church he does believe in.
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Thu Mar-20-08 06:33 PM
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Edited on Thu Mar-20-08 06:33 PM by Iris
that a lot of black people are more conservative than people think they are. The fact that this church espouses creationism doesn't surprise me. I'd be interested to know what they think about homosexuality.
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Thu Mar-20-08 06:41 PM
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4. I believe that Rev. Wright started the first AIDS ministry in the area. |
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It was not a popular thing at the time.
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Thu Mar-20-08 06:42 PM
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5. They probably aren't big on homosexuality |
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based on the Newsom snub.
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Thu Mar-20-08 06:45 PM
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10. Sorry, you are wrong. Jeremiah Wright began a gay and lesbian outreach ministry. |
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And took a lot of flack for it.
Not going to be able to peg the "homophobic bigot" criticism on him.
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Thu Mar-20-08 06:57 PM
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14. Rev. Wright supports Gay Marriage |
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In 2005 the UCC Synod created a proposal in favor of Gay marriage. Rev. Wright, as well as Rev. Otis, is Pro equal marriage rights for all people. It is one reason that conservatives were attacking this congregation and its clergy PRIOR to the media's non-stop playing the clips of Sermons coupled with faux pundit outrage.
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Thu Mar-20-08 07:05 PM
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16. Obama's church is quite liberal on homosexuality, much more so than Methodists, and others |
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(HRC is a Methodist, when she is not with the Fellowship....)
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Thu Mar-20-08 06:35 PM
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2. Are you planning to move to Canada? |
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Because your president is a Creationist and Creationism is taught in your schools?
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seriousstan
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Thu Mar-20-08 06:42 PM
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7. For someone with the spaghetti monster icon, you sure do carry a lot of water for this church. |
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I guess some folks will suck down and swallow anything for their new god.
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Thu Mar-20-08 07:04 PM
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15. Because I'm a rational thinker... |
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I don't get all worked up over clear and obvious bullshit like this pastor nonsense.
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The_Casual_Observer
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Thu Mar-20-08 06:35 PM
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3. Apparently it's sort of a buffet thing. |
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Thu Mar-20-08 06:42 PM
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6. I would venture to say that most brands of xtianity would advance some type |
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of creationism. I mean, it's right there in the bible.
Seven days, then he rested - and it went downhill from there.
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seriousstan
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Thu Mar-20-08 06:43 PM
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8. Not Catholics. I was taught evolution by nuns in a Catholic school. |
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Thu Mar-20-08 07:05 PM
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17. Sure. Catholics aren't creationists. |
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Of course, their spiritual advisor is a nazi who defends child molestors, so you're kind of painting yourself into a corner here.
:rofl:
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Thu Mar-20-08 07:11 PM
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19. Well, yes, but even Catholicism believes that God created the Earth. |
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They just incorporate evolution into the works and basically say that Genesis is "based on a true story".
Believe me, with Adam and Eve, there is no original sin. No original sin means no immaculate conception. No immaculate conception and no original sin means no need for God to sacrifice his son to die for our sins.
It's certainly not the crackpot version that says "It happened just like the Bible says!!!" of creationism, but it is creationism.
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Thu Mar-20-08 06:45 PM
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9. I just went to the church's website |
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and found nothing about creationism. Are you sure about your claim?
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Thu Mar-20-08 06:46 PM
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11. Some people think that one can believe in |
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evolution and creationism -- they just believe that the biblical creation story was not a literal account. I don't believe in creationism at all, but a lot of Americans do. Maybe Obama does, at least on some level.
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Thu Mar-20-08 06:46 PM
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12. Where does this story come from? |
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Not that I'm doubting you, but I'm surprised a UCC church believes in creationism.
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Thu Mar-20-08 06:48 PM
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13. If it is, as I believe, UCC, then it is a very progressive and I find it hard |
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to believe they believe in literal creationism...
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Thu Mar-20-08 07:12 PM
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The OP does not have their facts straight: < http://www.ucc.org/not-mutually-exclusive/pdfs/pastoral-letter.pdf> Google: it's your friend. -FedoraLV
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Thu Mar-20-08 07:26 PM
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23. Imaging that happening on DU... |
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Thu Mar-20-08 07:08 PM
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18. Because like all good democrats he enjoyed the stories about dinosaurs eating white people. |
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There, is that what you needed to hear?
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Thu Mar-20-08 07:12 PM
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21. The part that has successfully exposed the kind of people who post stuff like this? |
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Thu Mar-20-08 07:14 PM
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22. and still, there's that whole |
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'separation of church and state' thing...
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