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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:40 PM
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Hillary: Mahatma Gandhi used to run a gas station in St. Louis
Edited on Thu Mar-20-08 06:41 PM by cali
ST. LOUIS (AP) -- Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton apologized for joking that Mahatma Gandhi used to run a gas station in St. Louis, saying it was "a lame attempt at humor."

The New York Democrat made the remark at a fund-raiser Saturday. During an event here for Senate candidate Nancy Farmer, Missouri's state treasurer, Clinton introduced a quote from Gandhi by saying, "He ran a gas station down in St. Louis."

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The director of a U.S. center devoted to Gandhi's teachings on Tuesday called the remarks stereotypical and racially insensitive, while an educator said the flap underscored the need for politicians to be cautious when trying to get laughs.

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http://www.ivarta.com/newsletters/nL_040107.htm

You want to call Obama a racist for his inartful words about "typical white people"? You really want to make a big deal about it? OK, fine. Don't choke on this blooper by dear Hilly.

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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:42 PM
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1. Jeeeeeeeeez. she is such a dork....
...at times she does not even make it to the level of asshole.

What a totally stupid remark!
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 07:23 PM
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33. it amazes me how you can look at someone and make a remark
like that. how can she see an Indian and say that? What a complete ass.
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gabeana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:42 PM
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2. It seems on DU and MSM
If you question historical white privelage thats the only racism
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:43 PM
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3. "Inartful"! Well if THAT don't put lipstick on the pig!
Obama is inartful -- Hillary is a terrible person who eats babies.

Kinda like Goofus and Gallant, only for (supposed) adults.

--p!
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americanstranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:45 PM
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6. Shh. The OP didn't mention the baby-eating thing.
Keep it to yourself.

- as
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:46 PM
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10. No, dear. They both made inartful comments and neither is a bigot
how pathetic that you can't grasp the obvious, pig.
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islandmkl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:43 PM
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4. how the hell did Hillary get ahold of jr.'s joke book?...
did she go "heh, heh, heh.." at the end, too?
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americanstranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:44 PM
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5. WTF?
What a stupid remark.

I call upon Nancy Farmer to renounce, reject, disavow.... ahh, never mind.

- as
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:45 PM
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7. Ripping on Gandhi is tasteless. I dont care who you are. nt
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 07:03 PM
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23. I agree and likely quite offensive to the world's largest democracy
Imagine how many threads here if Bush was clueless enough to say this.
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PoliticalAmazon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 07:07 PM
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28. Oh my...she insulted someone from INDIA!?!
The way she bows and scrapes to corporate India, she must be getting senile to insult one of their most revered religious and political figures!

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boobooday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:46 PM
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8. I remember that
Astonishingly unfunny.
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redstate_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:46 PM
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9. The Chickeeeennnssss are coommmmiinnng hoommmeee
to roost!
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:47 PM
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11. If we behaved the way Hillary supporters do
we'd need at least 10 threads on this subject because you know, our outrage cannot be expressed enough.
Where are they on this subject?
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wain Donating Member (803 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:47 PM
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12. very old
Jan 2004
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:49 PM
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14. oh, I see. It's fine because she said it four years ago
take a logic course, genius.
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wain Donating Member (803 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 07:21 PM
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51. Probably right to a certain extent, less the the name calling
It becomes frustrating when either candidate reaches back through the years to grasp at straws.
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 07:36 PM
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34. So are Wright's remarks.
Edited on Thu Mar-20-08 07:36 PM by Leopolds Ghost
Oops! pwned!!!
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:48 PM
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13. You must be very worried to post this.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:50 PM
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16. no. I'm very offended.
that people are calling Obama a racist. duh.
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:50 PM
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17. I'd call it 'tit for tat'. If it had occurred the other way around it would
be the lead story in the MSM for DAYS!
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:49 PM
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15. Obama wasn't even talking about all white persons, just those who have negative racial reactions.
clinton's joke was clearly a racial stereotype, and actually worthy of scorn.

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leeroysphitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:51 PM
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18. How is that any better than the "Macaca" remark?
Bigots and children joke about Indians and Pakistanis who run gas stations or convenience stores.
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redstate_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:53 PM
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19. SHAME ON HILLARY CLINTON!
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:56 PM
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20. I'm gonna kick this for every stupid post about Obama's grandmother
which means it could linger for days. Goose meet gander.
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dembotoz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 07:01 PM
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21. what a clown
Gandhi is one of the great leaders in history.

His example influenced MLK and the whole civil rights movement.

Everyday it gets harder and harder for me to think of myself supporting her if she
gets the nomination.
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 07:02 PM
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22. She apologized, has Obama?


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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 07:04 PM
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24. I have no idea.
My post was in response to all the asswipes here lying and sliming Obama. Goose meet gander. What hilly dear said was at least as bad as what Obama said. She thought it was cute to slur all Indians for a cheap little laugh. He was trying to explain something and did it poorly. Neither are racists. But I play hardball, and I don't tolerate stupid vile shit.
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ldf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 07:52 PM
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37. asswipe?
project much?

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MattBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 07:06 PM
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27. Sorry too late
She is in a tailspin, crashing, burning. She is unelectable now and should drop out before the SDs have to give this to Obama. Either that or Al Gore comes swooshing in and saves us all.

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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 07:05 PM
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25. Is she in need of the Betty Ford Center?
This is not the HC I thought that I knew.
This is unreal for an "experienced" world traveler.

She needs some serious work before she represents America.

What the hell would she sound like ~ GW Bush.
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PoliticalAmazon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 07:05 PM
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26. I dunno--sounds like a McCain Senior Moment to Me!
Advancing senility would explain a lot of Hillary Clinton's actions, inconsistencies, inability to focus, and emotional lability demonstrated during this campaign.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 07:11 PM
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29. kick
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 07:15 PM
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30. kick
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 07:17 PM
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31. Even Bill Maher couldn't spin that enough to qualify for "funny"
Stick to your day job, Mrs. Clinton. Go back to your senate seat and finish out your term.
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Basement Beat Donating Member (303 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 07:21 PM
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32. WOW....
How could she even make a joke about Gandhi and think its funny?
Someone needs to watch Obama's speech.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 07:37 PM
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35. Hill gets away with quite a bit
despite her fans whining about how she has it harder than any other candidate.
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 07:38 PM
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36. no class at all.
just a huge conniving embarrassment
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Lucky 13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 07:56 PM
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38. Deleted.
Edited on Thu Mar-20-08 08:08 PM by Lucky 13
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 08:04 PM
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39. Oh Cali... it was a joke, as you well know.
The joke was the idea that anyone in the audience wouldn't know who Ghandi was... she was playing it off like he was an obscure guy, and running a gas station in St. Louis was used as an example of obscurity.

The only parties with a right to complain are 1) gas station managers, and 2) St. Louis.

There was zero implication that he was running a gas station because he's Indian. And you KNOW that. So this attempt at tit-for-tat is really low by your standards.

Comparability Score = 0.00

The Obama comment is not a big outrage (to any sane person), but it was not a jest and not misunderstood. It meant what it meant.

You'd be better off saying it's am eaningless flap (which it is) than by trying to resurrect another meaningless flap...

As a certain midwestern gas station manager once told me, "An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind"

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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 08:16 PM
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40. hey kurt,
Edited on Thu Mar-20-08 08:49 PM by cali
it was an offensive and derogatory joke, and you know it. What was the point of said joke? What was supposed to make it funny? The implied put stereotype of Indians in American culture. The barb wasn't about Gandhi, but Indians, and it played into a very widely recognized stereotype. Some jokes aren't funny and are offensive. Why do you think she apologized? Why do you think Indian Americans were offended? And they were. Go read some of the stuff out of the Indian American community and grab a clue. Obama stated something awkwardly. Hillary made an inappropriate joke. Absolutely comparable and not remotely a low blow.
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 08:24 PM
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41. You're off the rails.
Why did people complain? Because some people are assholes. (Breaking news!)

Why did she apologize? Because it's easier than not apologizing.

Why was she quoting Gandhi? Because she considers him one of the greatest men in world history.

What a SLUR!!!!

People who are freaking out about grandmother-gate need to drown themselves in the toilet.

So why join them?
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 08:49 PM
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49. I don't think so
it was uniformly condemned by the Indian American community and for you decide that they're all just assholes is a bit much. I'm not making a big deal out of it, but I am demonstrating to the haters claiming that Obama is a racist, that politicians can make imprudent statements and jokes- including Hillary.
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 08:35 PM
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43. Someone needs to tell Mrs.Clinton that non-funny people shoudn't try to be funny
I know, I know -- the focus groups told her to go for the laugh. They screwed up.
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 08:33 PM
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42. YOUTUBE link HERE and a comment...
YouTube

  I believe in my heart of hearts that it was just an attempt at humor gone...horribly wrong. But, let me ask you this, would something similar be likely to come out of your mouth? The stereotype of the Indian-American owning a gas station/mini-mart is very real and it makes me uncomfortable to watch her say it. Where's her internal editor going "Cut the joke off in mid sentence- you fucked up, shut up!"

  Who said "Better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and prove it?"

  It, ahem, certainly wasn't Mrs. Clinton, of course. Mark Twain?

PB
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 08:39 PM
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44. w00t!
She just handed the race to Obama. Nice going, genius.
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whistler162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 08:41 PM
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45. And in even older news....
Senator Clinton once stuck her tongue out at a classmate in the 1st grade!

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fuertegal Donating Member (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 08:43 PM
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46. tasteless joke
Mahatma is the greatest person on earth since Jesuschrist, IMO.
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Umbram Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 08:44 PM
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47. I'm sure it wasn't meant to be racially insensitive, but it was certainly not very bright. (nt)
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 08:46 PM
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48. well at least shes blowing her own dog whistle again..
:puke:
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 08:54 PM
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50. Selling Slurpees and burritos, huh, Hill? Yikes. All Obama said
was that his beloved grandmother was a typical white lady (and he would know, being half white), a product of her times, with a normal fear reaction to strange black men, which is why she's NOT racist. He was trying to defend her by saying she's perfectly normal and ordinary. Hillary made what anyone could see as an OBVIOUS stereotype joke.
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Mike03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 07:32 PM
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52. I've not heard Obama say a word, sentence or even a syllable that sounded remotely racist.
Edited on Fri Mar-21-08 07:33 PM by Mike03
Although I doubt Hillary is truly racist. I don't think Obama, Clinton or Pelosi or even Ferarro (sp?) are racist. The racism and sexism are coming from the MSM and interpretation of what these people are saying, which in many cases is STUPID and THOUGHTLESS but not racist.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 07:32 PM
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53. RACIST!
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