Black men were treated like guinea pigs for 40 YEARS with Syphilis - until 1972!

[Maraya1969]

How hard is it to understand that many black men, especially older men who were alive when this happened could be suspect about AIDS and whether or not the government had or has anything to do with it? I am not saying the government did have anything to do with AIDS but I can understand the thought process that ends with this belief.

So to all the highly indignant people who have gasped at Reverend Wright's accusations please check your history.

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Tuskegee Study of Untreated Syphilis in the Negro Male
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The infamous Tuskegee Syphilis Study, a government experiment that charted the effects of the untreated disease on mostly poor and uneducated black men, was conducted for 40 years before it was exposed and ended in 1972 amid widespread condemnation.

A number of participants in the study died of the disease, which the men spread to women and to children at birth.

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Tuskegee Study of Untreated Syphilis in the Negro Male
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The Tuskegee Study of Untreated Syphilis in the Negro Male<1> also known as the Tuskegee Syphilis Study, Pelkola Syphilis Study, Public Health Service Syphilis Study or the Tuskegee Experiments was a clinical study, conducted between 1932 and 1972 in Tuskegee, Alabama, in which 399 (plus 201 control group without syphilis) poor — and mostly illiterate — African American sharecroppers were denied treatment for Syphilis.

This study became notorious because it was conducted without due care to its subjects, and led to major changes in how patients are protected in clinical studies. Individuals enrolled in the Tuskegee Syphilis Study did not give informed consent and were not informed of their diagnosis; instead they were told they had "bad blood" and could receive free medical treatment, rides to the clinic, meals and burial insurance in case of death in return for participating.<2>

In 1932, when the study started, standard treatments for syphilis were toxic, dangerous, and of questionable effectiveness. Part of the original goal of the study was to determine if patients were better off not being treated with these toxic remedies.

By 1947, penicillin had become the standard treatment for syphilis. Prior to this discovery, syphilis frequently led to a chronic, painful and fatal multisystem disease. Rather than treat all syphilitic subjects with penicillin and close the study, or split off a control group for testing penicillin; the Tuskegee scientists withheld penicillin and information about penicillin, purely to continue to study how the disease spreads and kills. Participants were also prevented from accessing syphilis treatment programs that were available to other people in the area. The study continued until 1972, when a leak to the press resulted in its termination.

The Tuskegee Syphilis Study, cited as "arguably the most infamous biomedical research study in U.S. history",<3> led to the 1979 Belmont Report, the establishment of the National Human Investigation Board, and the requirement for establishment of Institutional Review Boards.

The study group was formed as part of the venereal disease section of the U.S. Public Health Service (PHS).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuskegee_Study_of_Untreated_Syphilis_in_the_Negro_Male

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Beginning in 1932, the federal government sponsored a study to examine the impact of syphilis involving black men. The experiment went on until 1972 without the test subjects' knowledge, but no President had apologized to the volunteers and their families until President Clinton did so today. Following a background report on the experiment, Charlayne Hunter-Gault looks at what the legacy of Tuskegee.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/health/may97/tuskegee_5-16.html


http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/03/16/MNOUVHQVB.DTL

[soothsayer]

1. I think the dude's right about AIDS. It popped up after the military wanted funding

to create race-specific diseases to use as weapons. (Based on how only Jews get Tay-Sachs, how only blacks get sickle cell, etc.) I'm sure we established an African Command because we're going to need to take over that breadbasket of the world with its good resources. First we'll allow disease to kill lots and lots of the current residents, and let their horrid govts kill the rest, then topple them handily. Then we'll have food, water, diamonds, gold. Hurrah for being part of the NWO~!

[FlaGranny]

2. AIDS

is not a race-specific disease, though, and I have no idea if there was some conspiracy to create one. If so, they were unsuccessful. The only reason there is more AIDS in Africa is because that is where the disease originated and it spreads more rampantly there because most countries are too poor to combat it.

[Maraya1969]

3. The testing for HIV is disproportionately aimed at the black and gay

men community. The more tests you give out the more positive results you will have. I remember going to a rehab for young kids once and seeing a poster that said something to the effect that 1 out of 10 African American women between the ages of ? and ?, (can't remember the ages but it was late teens to 20 somethings). Now there were white kids in this rehab. Why weren't they pushing for the white kids to get tested.

I have also read that black persons have more of a certain type of antibody that will cross re-act with the "HIV" antibody test.My personal theory for that one is black persons are closer in time than white people to the tropics. In other words if we all came from Africa which I have heared is kind of accepted knowledge than the people who migrated earlier lost their skin pigment for one because they were exposed to far less sun as they traveled north. So they needed less pigment hence the white person. And the persons that stayed in the south needed less and actually needed more protection from the sun hence the more melanin and darker skin tone.

Well that was off on a tangent but what I am trying to get at is the tropics have many many more living things in them. Compare the number of germs, viruses, parasites and various pathogens in South Africa with Alaska. You don't need vaccines to go to Greenland because little microscopic things don't live there, (in general and as compared to South Africa)

A lot of people get pissed when people speak of anything other than sex or blood as the basis for AIDS so though I know I have said some things that may get a few people boiling mad the point that I am trying to make, (since I am so straight forward and easy to understand............:dunce: )is this....................Nothing about AIDS makes sense except the victims seem to be mostly from groups considered by some other groups as the "undesirables". In south Africa a positive "HIV" test is not even needed for a diagnosis of AIDS.

So I do not judge Reverend Wright for his comments about AIDS. I don't agree personally that this is all a biologically engineered super bug that will only attack black people and gay men. But I know that there are so many inconsistencies with HIV and AIDS AND it has made billions of dollars just like the Iraq war.

Anyway I don't think you are supposed to mix a long acting opioid mix with a short acting one and that might be why my eyes keep closing. If anyone can figure out what I am trying to say feel free to translate.

[Solon]

11. You know, part of the reason why HIV infection rates has reached pandemic proportions...

in Africa is because of bullshit like you just spouted. This type of bullshit KILLS people because its disinformation that tells people that unprotected sex is OK for people that have HIV because it doesn't cause AIDS. Fuck, this bullshit just pisses me off!

[Georgie_92]

4. That's disgusting, Karma....

[Unsane]

5. Just leave it alone. The Wright issue is a losing battle for Barack.

[Maraya1969]

6. I will not leave it alone. When these white Christians proclaim with self righteous

Indignation that THEIR country is being stolen from them because schools are not allowed to make students pray or because "they" can't put "their" ten commandments up at a local state or federal courthouse I think they need to be reminded how white Christian males got control of this country in the first place and the abuses of humanity they used to get there. And then when a pastor stands up in front of his church and has the nerve to get mad at the behavior of white Christian men these same white Christian men act like he has committed an atrocity of the same character as the people who treated black men with syphilis the same way Hitler's doctors treated the Jews with their "medical experiments".

So below is the birth of this "Christian nation" as known by the Native American and very few Christians. Instead of proclaiming with self satisfaction that the white Christian man won why don't they confess with an air of humility, reverence and contrition and a desire to make things right. Yes many know the real America and how it came to be over the years but when a situation like the one with Pastor Wright comes up the others, the despotic individuals on their despotic thrones make me want to shove certain Wikipedia articles down their despotic throats.

I guess it is too much to ask.

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American Revolution

Frontier warfare during the American Revolution was particularly brutal, and numerous atrocities were committed by settlers and native tribes. Noncombatants suffered greatly during the war, and villages and food supplies were frequently destroyed during military expeditions.<22> The largest of these expeditions was the Sullivan Expedition of 1779, which destroyed more than 40 Iroquois villages in order to neutralize Iroquois raids in upstate New York. The expedition failed to have the desired effect: Native American activity became even more determined.





Removal and reservations


In the nineteenth century, the incessant westward expansion of the United States incrementally compelled large numbers of Native Americans to resettle further west, often by force, almost always reluctantly. Under President Andrew Jackson, United States Congress passed the Indian Removal Act of 1830, which authorized the President to conduct treaties to exchange Native American land east of the Mississippi River for lands west of the river. As many as 100,000 Native Americans eventually relocated in the West as a result of this Indian Removal policy. In theory, relocation was supposed to be voluntary (and many Native Americans did remain in the East such as the Choctaw who were first to be removed), but in practice great pressure was put on Native American leaders to sign removal treaties. Arguably the most egregious violation of the stated intention of the removal policy was the Treaty of New Echota, which was signed by a dissident faction of Cherokees but not the elected leadership. The treaty was brutally enforced by Jackson, which resulted in the deaths of an estimated four thousand Cherokees on the Trail of Tears.

The explicit policy of Indian Removal forced or coerced the relocation of major Native American groups in the Eastern United States, resulting directly and indirectly in the deaths of tens of thousands. The subsequent process of assimilations was no less devastating to Native American peoples. Tribes were generally located to reservations on which they could more easily be separated from traditional life and pushed into European-American society. Some southern states additionally enacted laws in the 19th century forbidding non-Indian settlement on Indian lands, intending to prevent sympathetic white missionaries from aiding the scattered Indian resistance.<24>

At one point, President Jackson told people to kill as many American Bison as possible in order to cut out the Plains Indian's main source of food. At one point, there were fewer than 500 bison left in the Great Plains.<25>


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_Americans_in_the_United_States

[Maraya1969]

7. Testing reply. Is it too late Toto?

[better tomorrow]

9. toto

[better tomorrow]

8. Here we go again.....you need to look at this timeline.....

http://www.boydgraves.com/timeline/

And, keep the word going....

[2rth2pwr]

10. ...

[FrenchieCat]

12. What are you? A fucking republican? Geeze.....

Go to Freeping Republic!



























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[Maraya1969]

13. Have you posted this as an OP? I really with you would so others can see it

Great compilation of pictures. :hug:

[Hav]

14. Thank you ...

that felt good after seeing this poster trolling in every thread with that pic...