Why doesn't the Obama campaign push for new elections in MI and FL?

[Onlooker]

We don't want to humiliate the state parties of Florida and Michigan. They are both critical swing states and state parties are generally very important in getting out the vote. Now that they have been taught a lesson, it's time to find a way to include them.

Obama has the money, the strategy, and the campaign skills to do very well in those states. I think he can win them, but even if he only keeps it close, he'll still have a commanding lead in pledged superdelegates. Obama has to start thinking of the general election and MI and FL have to stay in play to give him the best odds of winning.

Why are so many Obama supporters and the Obama campaign opposed to new elections? Does anyone think he could do so badly in those states that his lead in delegates would be erased?

[BeatleBoot]

1. In Michigan, Obama wants 50% of all Votes Cast and he wasn't on the ballot.

Talk about Audacity.

[ThatBozGuy]

7. Youve been squashed on this one a hundred times, Get a wish sandwich.......

wait you all ready have that two, pieces of bread, a whole lot of CHEESE and you wish you had some meat.

You cant have it both ways and not look like a wanker. He wants the votes to count he doesnt want the votes to count blah blah blah

[BeatleBoot]

24. No, he wants 50% of the votes and less than 45% voted "Uncommitted"

And that was with Kucinich and Clinton on the ballot.

So it's fairly obvious you have no idea what you are talking about.

[ThatBozGuy]

26. Please show me anything that Mr Obama has said this, not an oped, anything MSM wire

You cant and wont because your just repeating echoes and wishing in desperation.

[Johnny__Motown]

2. He isn't at fault, DNC makes and enforces the rules

[kwenu]

28. The DNC isn't at fault either as they made the penalty clear.

FL and MI have acted like spoiled teenagers and a lot of Democrats are acting like parents who suck.

[goldcanyonaz]

3. The fear is that Clinton would win and win big and momentum would be on her side.

[Bensthename]

4. Obama is following the rules. Why wasnt this thought out before hand?

[polichick]

5. He has said repeatedly, he'll abide by the decision of the DNC...

...which is the appropriate response for a candidate who agreed to follow DNC rules.

[book_worm]

6. My feeling is that O could win Michigan and H could win FL in another election

so it's almost a draw except that FL has more delegates. But I think that O is following the DNC rules. I think he is correct to reject any kind of redo financed by H supporters.

[John Q. Citizen]

8. As soon as Clinton concedes, they will be seated. It's too late to plan and execute

a brand new fair election.

I think he would do fine in both states, particularly MI, but that's not the point.

I live in MT, and we and S. Dakota are last in the nation! woo hooo! June 3rd. I don't want MI and FL stepping all over our big day. We've waited a long time for this.

I'm hoping enough Supers will have come on board so that our contests will put Obama over the top. That would be way cool.

MI and FL threw away their chances to have a sanctioned and official vote, and they instead chose to play chicken with the DNC. Just imagine if they had both just kept their original dates?
I hope they learned their lesson not to be line cutters.

And for the record, I was never against a re-vote; The problem is both states dragged their heels right up to the deadline. They should have passed the needed plans back in Feb.

[kennetha]

9. Because they are deathly afraid of losing

and want to win at all cost and are utterly devoid of principle.

[KAZ]

13. Hate to break it to you, Obama has already won.

You can keep sucking on the MSM lollipop.

[kennetha]

17. We'll see soon enough

What you going to do when your man loses Pennsylvania, Indiana, West Virgin, Puerto RIco, and even North Carolina on the basis of cratering white support?

[KAZ]

18. And she still loses. I know it hurts, but your candidate is done.

Richardson tried to to tell you that today. Will you listen?

[rocktivity]

23. If Hillary doesn't get at least 65% of the vote in those contests

she loses anyway.

:headbang:
rocknation

[billbuckhead]

20. if the souless empty suit "wins", it's a ticket to nowheresville.

Working class whites have come to mistrust and even hate him, the kiss of death to previous Democratic candidates. Watch the total asskicking he deservedly gets in the crucial state of Pennsylvania.

[KAZ]

21. I'm not saying he's the greatest thing since sliced bread. Let's

try to work with it. We have a chance here.

[bowens43]

10. because the issue was already decided

why does hillary continue to try to steal what she can't win and how cananyone with integrity still support her?

[totodeinhere]

11. For the same reason that Clinton wants to push for new elections in MI and FL.

It is to Clinton's political advantage to have new elections in those two states. It is not in Obama's interest. It's politics on both sides. End of story.

[PATRICK]

22. Pretty much, yes.

Obama's advantage in resolving this is that from his leading position he can eventually be magnanimous and seat the delegates as is pretty much. Hillary is still jumping them through hoops in a desperate effort where the delegate number doesn't even matter compared to the symbolism of a popular vote, big state "surge". Obama thus is passive and not offensive and not playing an eager patsy(thus ANOTHER reason why he wouldn't be a strong candidate in November) in any scheme to shift the ground rules on behalf of the opponent trailing him.

It may be ugly, but the alternative would be a lose lose for everything but the dim possibility of Hillary getting another new play.

There are many elements of the process, some definitely the fault of the Dems themselves, that make a fair clean process impossible. Take notes to demand changes for next time, because the party poobahs constantly make the wrong choices on "perfecting" a rushed early decision primary with endless sloppy differences between states. Their main goal will not being made the focus of super delegate responsibility next time above all else.

[KAZ]

12. Dude,this is dead. Give it up already.

[Double T]

14. BO can't manipulate the new elections and Clinton is VERY STRONG.......

in BOTH states.

[DrFunkenstein]

15. The Only Affordable Choice Would Be Relatively Inexpensive Caucuses

I say bring it on.

[otohara]

16. It's Called Following The Rules

of The DNC.

Do you think Sen. Clinton would be wanting revotes in Fl & MI if she were in the lead?

[Beregond2]

19. MI, FL

It isn't the business of any campaign to "push" for anything in this matter. This is something that these states decided for themselves. They knew the consequences in advance. And they know what they must do to correct the situation. If they can't get it together to do so, that's the breaks. No one is "humiliating" anyone.

[jillan]

25. Count the votes? Nah -

It's sickening.

[kwenu]

27. I don't know but I personally am NOT in favor of MI and FL getting to vote again.

They broke the rules. Rewarding them encourages this behavior in the future. Split their delegates between the candidates, seat the delegations and call it a day. They should be thankful to get that instead of being stripped.