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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 10:46 PM
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On the Ground in the Philadelphia Suburbs: Day 1
Edited on Fri Mar-21-08 11:00 PM by democrattotheend
I grew up in the Philadelphia area and went to high school in Montgomery County, right outside the city. So I came up for the weekend to help the Obama campaign register new voters and help people who wanted to switch their registration to Democrat to vote in the primary.

Some background on the area: Montgomery County is an upper-income area with a large Jewish population, particularly in the part closest to Philadelphia. It used to be a Republican stronghold, and registered Republicans still outnumber registered Democrats, in part because most of the local government is still Republican. But Kerry carried the county by 12 points in 2004, and there are a lot of people who have voted Democrat for at least the last 2 presidential elections and voted for Rendell for governor both times but never changed their registration. So in addition to signing up new voters (most people in areas like this are already registered), one of the main objectives was to get these people to register as Democrats so they could vote for Obama in the primary.

I will give a more detailed recount below, but bottom line impression: the Wright "scandal" (I prefer to call it a character assassination) has definitely hurt Obama, but it hasn't killed him. He still has plenty of support, but it didn't feel like as much of an Obama stronghold as I thought it would be, though someone on DailyKos pointed out that this particular Acme attracts a lot of religious Jews and is not the place to meet tons of progressives.

They sent me to a supermarket in Narberth, PA to do registration. This is a heavily Jewish area, and they picked that location for me because it has a large kosher section and I told them that I had gone to a Jewish high school and knew how to talk to people who were worried about whether Obama would be pro-Israel enough as president.

At first it was pretty discouraging. Several people gave me dirty looks and said things like "don't even talk to me." One man essentially called me a traitor to my religion and said that Obama was "no friend to us", and one woman said that she was a Democrat but might vote for McCain if Obama was the nominee, because she was disturbed about the Wright sermons and what Michelle Obama had said about being proud of her country.

Several people expressed doubts about Obama that I could kind of tell were related to Israel, even if they did not say it until I asked. I gave out sheets the Obama campaign had prepared detailing his positions on Israel, and told them that I was Jewish myself and would never support someone I did not trust to be supportive of Israel, but I trust Barack Obama. Hopefully that, plus the information I gave out will help to reassure people. I should have also pointed out that Jewish leaders in Chicago are very comfortable with Obama, and he had a lot of Jewish support when he ran for the Senate four years ago.

At first, the only people who seemed to be for Obama were the people who worked in the store, most of whom were African American. I got a few of them registered for the first time, so that felt good. But just about every white person I met at first seemed to have a negative impression of him, and I was pretty demoralized.

I went back to the headquarters after I ran out of registration forms. I called my mom and said "I think it's over. His support among rich white liberals seems to have collapsed, and they're one of his core constituencies. If he can't win white voters here he can't win them anywhere in the state." But she yelled at me for being defeatist, and I forced myself to go back out there and do some more registration. Somehow, the second round was a lot more encouraging. I met a lot more people (mostly white) who supported Obama or were leaning that way.

This is a highly educated, upper-income area, so most people were already registered, but several people asked to take forms home for their kids who had recently turned 18 or were in college and on spring break. I also got a lot of people who wanted to change their registration from Republican or independent to Democrat. I am not sure if they were all planning to vote for Obama, but I was decked out in Obama gear, so I would think most people who agreed to fill out forms for me were Obama supporters if they trusted me to handle their registration form (except for one woman who admitted she planned to vote for Clinton).

I met several enthusiastic supporters, including a couple who were already volunteering and a couple more who were willing to. Several people asked for yard signs or bumper stickers, which I asked them to sign up for, though I found out later the campaign did not have any. It seemed like many of the people who were liberal Democrats supported Obama, while more of the Clinton supporters were the type who called themselves Democrats but would consider voting for McCain if Obama were not the nominee.

A lot of people who were already registered thanked me for what I was doing and said it was a good public service. I don't know if all of them were for Obama, but I would imagine some of them were.

Among the more interesting encounters I had were:

  • A mother who was there with her college-age son, who I think was on spring break from Temple. He said that he had seen people on campus from the Obama campaign doing voter registration. I asked if he was going to vote for Obama, and he said he wasn't sure, but his mother said sharply "no, you're not!" Hopefully he'll make up his own mind. Later on I wished I had said "hey, don't tell your Mama you're for Obama."

  • The Joe-six-pack type who had been for Richardson then Edwards, but is now voting for Obama, mainly because he dislikes Hillary. He was very pleased about the Richardson endorsement.

  • A woman who did not want to change her registration because it meant having to choose between Clinton and Obama, when she really liked them both. I told her I like Hillary but I work in politics and I know enough about politicians behind the scenes to know that Obama is really something special. I encouraged her to take a form, and pointed out that if she registered as a Democrat, she'd have 30 days to make up her mind, and if she still could not decide she did not have to vote in the primary, but that way she'd have the option. She took a form and hopefully she will fill it out and send it.

  • The woman who has been a staunch Republican all her life and hates Hillary, though she would like to see a woman president. She said she would have more respect for Hillary if she had left Bill after he cheated on her. She won't vote for Obama but she really likes him. She told me a story about a time when she got to go to the governor's mansion in Arkansas when Bill was governor. (she had been involved with this group for women in construction and got to go to some political events as a result). She said that when she was there, they overheard Hillary screaming at Bill with all kinds of expletives, complaining that he had been away for three days and accusing him of screwing around. She could have been making this up, but it did not sound terribly implausible.


All in all, I would say Obama definitely had a substantial and diverse base of support in the area, but perhaps not as high as it should be in an upper-income suburb. Although when I thought about the fact that not everyone there was a Democrat to begin with (45% of the county voted for Bush, though I would guess that number was lower in the particular area I was in), it did not seem so bad.

At the end of the day, I was moderately encouraged. Obama has definitely lost some support in the last week, but his support among white voters has not collapsed as I had initially feared.

I'm doing door to door tomorrow, so I will post another update tomorrow night or Sunday.

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femmedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 10:51 PM
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1. Keep us posted!
And thanks for the work you're doing. :yourock:
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 10:53 PM
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2. "I told her I like Hillary ..." Disconnect? Does not jibe with your Obama avatar.
Is that by accident or design? Just curious. :shrug:
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 10:56 PM
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4. I like her. I just like Obama better.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 10:55 PM
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3. Thank you. Good read.
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housewolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 10:57 PM
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5. Thanks for the update,
It's really great to hear about your day.

Keep up the good work! It's fabulous and much appreciated.

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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 11:00 PM
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6. Interestingly, I met an older Jewish couple today who are Hillary's neighbors from Chappaqua...
Edited on Fri Mar-21-08 11:01 PM by Kristi1696
And were adamant Obama supporters.

So keep the faith. Tomorrow will be better.

Did they send you out alone? If so, try to get partnered up tomorrow. It may sound funny, but it helps to have "backup".
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 11:10 PM
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7. Good on you!
Thank you for doing all you do! It must be hard to hear some of that stuff. I made phone calls to Texas and a couple of those were a little rough. People do not seem to be able to say they support someone else without being nasty. I am surprised by the poster who commented on the "I like Hillary" part. I mean she is a Democrat and you were registering people to vote. I don't get that.
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 11:37 PM
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8. Some of it was just comical
My favorite was the person who called Obama white trash (forgot to add that in the OP). Maybe I am missing something here, but HOW THE HELL CAN A BLACK MAN BE WHITE TRASH????
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 11:47 PM
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9. Right, I did not want to offend her by bashing Hillary
And I do like her, for the most part. I am disappointed by the way she has run her campaign, and sometimes she makes me really mad, but there are things I like about her. I will definitely vote for her if she gets the nomination (though some of the HRC supporters here make me really not want to, as I am sure some of the Obama supporters do for Hillary supporters).
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JimGinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 12:20 AM
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10. Thanks For The Recap Of Your Day...
I spent a good deal of today phone banking in Lancaster County. I talked to some Hillary supporters and for the most part they were pretty nice. Several people said they liked both candidates and would vote for either in Nov. Keep up the good work!


:toast:
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Adams Wulff Donating Member (658 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 12:27 AM
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11. I grew up in Conshohocken, so I know how tough Narberth can be.
Being on the Main Line and all.

Good luck, and keep us posted!
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fadedrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 12:33 AM
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12. Thank you for writing this...
I very much enjoyed reading all of it.

Good luck next time out. You seem like a really nice guy and you just being you is sure to help Obama.
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 07:23 AM
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20. I'm actually a woman, but thanks
I hope so. Going door to door today...that should be interesting.
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 04:39 AM
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13. Thank you for this excellent report. Keep up the good work.
:thumbsup:
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cooolandrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 05:00 AM
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14. Ask the question are you for Hillary or undecided first then you can work out what is what hide ...
... identity till you work this out then go forward yeah.
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4themind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 06:03 AM
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15. Thanks for the post, I grew up in your area too
I 'm from the other side of city line avenue over in philadelphia, but went to school at friends central in montgomery county as well. I'm an african american, but my high school was majority jewish like yours, I have to say that the first part of your post was very sobering for me, but I don't believe it's based on any deep seated racism at least based upon my experiences. (and I realize you didn't suggest it either) .I'm not on the ground there anymore but I have a feeling (maybe more like a hope) that as the issues come into greater focus (when it's obama vs. Mccain) that they will decide based upon their education on the respective differences between McCain and Obama on the issues that they care about. I think it will be tough however;McCain isn't viewed as a Christian zelot over there I don't think, regardless of the religious advisers he's associated himself with more recently (at least relative to bush, when gore and clinton carried the area). Also, I think Obama's stance on israel will be important and will be compared with McCain's. I agree with you that to win in pennsylvania, in the fall,the philadelphia suburbs will be critical. Good luck and thank you for your efforts.
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 07:33 AM
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22. I don't think it's racism per say
There is a tendency in the pro-Israel crowd not to trust politicians they don't know that well. That's why he has plenty of support in the Chicago Jewish community but not nationally.

There may also be a tendency, one I will admit to having to some degree myself, to be skeptical of African American politicians, not because of racism, but because many of the most outspoken critics of Israel in Congress in recent years have been members of the Congressional Black Caucus. I will admit that when I first learned about Barack Obama, when he was running for senate in 2004, that was one of the first questions I asked, in part because of his name. I have since moved somewhat to the left on the Israeli/Palestinian conflict, but I would still have a hard time supporting an outspoken critic of Israel like Cynthia McKinney. I think because there have been several CBC members who have been critical of Israel like McKinney, there may be a bit of a tendency to distrust black politicians.

Obama was starting to make inroads in the Jewish community, but I get the sense that the Reverand Wright tapes have set that effort back quite a bit.

It's not racism per say, but it is a bit of a stereotype. There has been some tension between the black and Jewish communities in recent years, in part because a lot of African Americans tend to sympathize with the Palestinians, seeing them as an oppressed ethnic minority the way they were and in some ways still are here in the US.

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sonias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 07:00 AM
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16. Thank you for your report democrattotheend
And for all your hard work as well. :yourock:




Sonia
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 07:11 AM
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17. Hats off to you!
You're doing good work. Rock on. :)
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 07:12 AM
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18. All Obama supporters are grateful to you
I know how tough it can be out there; I find it's more fun if you have a fellow supporter with you if you can hook up with one.

Great write-up, and best of luck to you.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 07:19 AM
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19. Obama's just been through a nightmare week which has temporarily
obliterated his message. I don't think it's affected the base much, but people who are not as interested as we are and don't delve beneath the media scandal-du-jour need some work. Remember, you can always tell the magnitude of the frontrunner's lead by the severity of the dirt being mined. If Hillary was in the lead the scandals would be entirely different and Obama would be getting a pass.
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 07:35 AM
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23. Spot on. I just hope it's temporary
I guess I had hoped that maybe it was only beltway hacks like me who were paying attention at this stage. It was disappointing to go out in the real world and see that people knew about it and that it had left an impression. You are absolutely right that the people who already supported him have mostly been able to look beneath the soundbytes the media has been playing, but people who were undecided are more reluctant to support him now. I hope it passes and he can recover, but I am worried that lasting impressions have already been formed.
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40ozDonkey Donating Member (730 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 07:26 AM
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21. Well done! n/t
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Kukesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 07:40 AM
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24. Thanx for your tireless work. Waiting for your next report. n/t
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 11:29 AM
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25. Day 2 Report
Not as much to report from Saturday. We went to a shopping center in Bala Cynwyd, and most of the patrons seemed to be middle class African Americans. Most of them were already registered, which is encouraging but also made us feel useless. I did get a few new people registered though. My grandparents came with me on Saturday and they had a similar experience. Most people they talked to were already registered.

I was disappointed when I got two college students to register but discovered that they both checked off Republican!

The volunteers were a pretty diverse group, including a surprising number of older white people (Clinton's base), as well as young people and African Americans of all ages. Lots of Jews, as you might expect in that area.

Toward the end of the day I held up an Obama sign by the side of a busy road in Bala Cynwyd and got several honks from people of all races and ages, so that was encouraging. I don't think anyone stuck up their middle finger. In 2004, I was really upset when I stood by the side of the road in Abington, PA holding up a Kerry sign, and someone stuck up his finger not just at me but at my 12 year old cousin! Some people just have no decency...

Sorry I don't have more to report. I'm hoping to go back next weekend and other weekends to do some door to door canvassing, so hopefully I will have more to write about then.
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