John Q. Citizen
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Fri Mar-21-08 10:46 PM
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Richardson: 'For the good of the party it's OK for longtime Hill supporters to back Barack.' |
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I mean if Bill Richardson can do it, so can everyone else.
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Fri Mar-21-08 10:48 PM
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1. BIDEN will be next, methinks. n/t |
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Fri Mar-21-08 11:24 PM
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15. He may well be. I think bringing out the other also rans is a good strategy. |
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It places a moral pressure on Hillary to quit dividing the party and is probably a good way to influence other super delegates.
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Fri Mar-21-08 10:53 PM
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2. He's bringing that 2-7% he pulled when he was running |
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Fri Mar-21-08 11:06 PM
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8. Yeah that is why camp Hill was begging for him to back her |
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Fri Mar-21-08 11:11 PM
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12. I'll bet they regretted that after he started hinting she should quit a few weeks back |
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He contradicts his own statement about his own campaign before it failed.
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Fri Mar-21-08 11:08 PM
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9. 2% to 7% of previously declared or undeclared supers to Obama would be awesome. That |
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would be twenty something supers at the high end.
More important than the number of votes he received is the fact that he's a very good, longtime, and close friend of the Clintons, he's a publicly close friend, and he just said it's alright, for the good of the party, to declare for Obama.
That's huge/eleven!!!!
Actually. it's pretty big in a psychological sense. Somebody has to be first. and second, and third, and then eventually everybody is there. And somebody just stood up and said "it's fine to be here."
So we shall see...
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Fri Mar-21-08 11:30 PM
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16. Yep. If Obama gets a 2 - 7% jump from this that's great news. |
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Fri Mar-21-08 11:37 PM
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18. Oh look, there goes a bus. Why don't you throw him under it? |
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Fri Mar-21-08 10:53 PM
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3. It may be OK for a backstabber like Richardson, |
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but it's not OK for plenty others.
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Fri Mar-21-08 10:58 PM
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Knives out for Richardson from jilted Hill-supporters? Shocking.
And then the Clinton people said, "He can't help out in Texas anymore, so this endorsement means nothing." Proving Richardson made the right decision, but maybe a bit after it might have made maximum impact.
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Fri Mar-21-08 11:08 PM
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10. But, they forget about the |
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undecided delegates who may not take kindly to the Guv being dissed by the vapid clintonaires.
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Fri Mar-21-08 11:51 PM
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29. Yup. That's why I said in another post, let them say that crap. |
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I hate to hear Richardson being so unfairly slimed, but ultimately it doesn't hurt him! It can only hurt them.
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Fri Mar-21-08 11:54 PM
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32. And consider the source...hilary's |
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dissed everyone who doesn't vote for her and every state she didn't win. Bill Richardson's in Good Company.
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Fri Mar-21-08 10:59 PM
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5. "backstabber"? You mean he doesn't believe in cronyism? |
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Fri Mar-21-08 11:09 PM
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Richardson has the right to endorse whomever he wants to. Sorry you disagree with his choice.
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Fri Mar-21-08 11:12 PM
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13. Backstabber? What? Is this the Sopranos? You'd think that the friendship |
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between Clintons and Richardson would be big enough for them to respect him for making a hard choice and not hold any grudges, in fact they should not expect any less from him.
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Fri Mar-21-08 11:44 PM
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Please.
Pray, what in Bill Richardson's long career is there to indicate that he regularly betrays people, besides the fact that he has had the unmitigated audacity to endorse a candidate other than Hillary Clinton? Please list the long long list of nefarious betrayals that he has committed.
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Fri Mar-21-08 11:46 PM
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22. Bitter, party of one. |
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Fri Mar-21-08 11:50 PM
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27. Gosh, that sounds like something Bush might say to someone who disagreed with him. n/t |
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Fri Mar-21-08 11:51 PM
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30. Are you cozy in your bunker? Do you need a blankey? |
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Sat Mar-22-08 12:01 AM
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33. Nope, but I know where my vote will go in November |
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Sat Mar-22-08 12:13 AM
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35. Nice. Why don't you just order that McCain 08 t-shirt right now |
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Oh, and get the fuck off our Democratic board.
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Sat Mar-22-08 12:46 AM
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36. Sorry, lifelong Democrat but I'm not obligated to vote for Obama. |
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I'll leave this board if and when I choose to do so.
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Sat Mar-22-08 12:57 AM
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43. Hate to break it to you |
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but you stopped being a lifelong Democrat as soon as you decided to vote against our nominee.
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Sat Mar-22-08 12:02 AM
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34. Another way the Clintons are Rovian |
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Loyalty is one of the most important things to the Bushies, certainly more important than competence or truth-telling. The Clintons seem to believe the same thing.
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Sat Mar-22-08 12:47 AM
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37. Loyalty IS very important, it denotes character. n/t |
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Sat Mar-22-08 12:52 AM
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39. Richardson made a principled stand. You might not agree with him, but he thought long and hard |
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Why do you say Richardson's loyalty is more important than his careful reasoned analysis on what the right thing to do was, in his opinion? When people say it is "Rovian" they mean that you seem to be placing loyalty as the primary/only attribute of consideration -- that's demanding blind loyalty.
So here's the big question: Under what conditions could Richardson have chosen to support someone else besides Hillary (not necessarily Obama, this is a hypothetical question so we'll presume some other Democrat) and still be viewed as a principled person by you?
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Sat Mar-22-08 01:10 AM
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44. Loyalty is not unquestioning subservience |
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If I think someone has a better idea on an important issue, I'll side with them over my good buddy who has a not-as-good option for the same issue. If my buddy gets pissed over this, well, perhaps the relationship wasn't as close as I had thought.
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Sat Mar-22-08 07:48 AM
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Fri Mar-21-08 11:00 PM
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6. Piss off Bill Richardson --- NT |
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Fri Mar-21-08 11:00 PM
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7. How could Richardson "backstab" hillary? |
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weren't the clinton supporters the ones saying superdelegates should "vote their conscience?"
DOH!
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Fri Mar-21-08 11:13 PM
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but he went against his own constituents in his own state. He didn't listen to his own voters voices. Hillary won NM. All for his own agenda. Guess he got offered the VP spot.
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Fri Mar-21-08 11:48 PM
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25. wait so are you saying in states hillary won they should go with the will of the people and in |
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states obama won they should vote their conscience? The hypocrisy here is hilarious!
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Fri Mar-21-08 11:50 PM
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I wonder how delusion and fanaticism is working for Team Hillbot?
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Fri Mar-21-08 11:53 PM
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31. He's not much of a friend - that's for sure.... |
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If I were buddies with him I sure wouldn't turn my back on him....
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Sat Mar-22-08 12:54 AM
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41. So you are saying who you support for President should be based on friendship? |
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I have a lot of friends I would not support as President (particular the conservative ones). Is it not possible to consider someone else the better candidate based on merits and so then support them? That seems perfectly reasonable AND respectable to me, even if it could be a hard personal decision.
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Fri Mar-21-08 11:38 PM
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19. Maybe Geraldine Ferraro will hold a press conference on Bill Richardson's career and the Clintons. |
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I'm sure she'd cast a lot of light on what the whiners are mad about.
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Fri Mar-21-08 11:47 PM
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23. she'll probably dismiss Richardson by saying he only became governor because he's latino |
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Fri Mar-21-08 11:48 PM
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24. And that the Clintons appointed him to posts for the same reason and he owes them. |
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Fri Mar-21-08 11:36 PM
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17. Come on in, the water's fine. |
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Fri Mar-21-08 11:39 PM
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20. Here I'll give ya that elusive 5th rec |
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Fri Mar-21-08 11:49 PM
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Can't wait to hear what Geritol Ferraro says. She may freak out and stab him in a blind racist rage.
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Sat Mar-22-08 12:49 AM
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I prefer not to join a cult thank you.
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Sat Mar-22-08 12:53 AM
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40. Oh, ok Bill, thanks. That's what I was waiting for. |
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Sat Mar-22-08 12:55 AM
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42. No thanks, Richardson. |
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I'll support Barack when I'm damn good and ready.
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Sun Mar-23-08 09:26 PM
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46. Maybe I spoke too soon. Maybe the cost is getting called a traitor and obsolete on TV? |
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How would the average super delegate feel about that?
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