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vita405 Donating Member (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 12:49 AM
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Despite White House precedent of breaching passports, some here wanted to blame Clinton
Edited on Sat Mar-22-08 12:55 AM by vita405
A new New York Times editorial informs us who was behind the 1992 breach of Bill Clinton's passsport and why:

The 1992 search of Mr. Clinton’s records turned out to have been coordinated by high-level White House officials hoping to find something to smear Mr. Clinton.


It used to be that the first party to raise suspicions in our liberal minds was obviously the Republican Party--the party of dirty tricks. But the first thought that crossed the minds of many here was the now typical "Clinton did it" scenario, or "a Clnton person" did it.

Keith Olbermann could not resist the temptation to suggest that a lady who a decade ago was ambassador to some far away country was instructed by the Clintons to breach Obama's passport, even though this woman is currently a Bush employee.

Now more names have been named in "passport-gate." Names of people who are not linked to Clinton or her campaign.

And of course, there's the part where Hillary's passport was also breached.



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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 12:52 AM
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1. Olbermann is a parody of himself.
Goodnight and good luck.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 03:55 AM
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9. Yep. A big payday does that sometimes.
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 08:28 AM
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18. Why would anyone pay attention to a ranter?
It's bad enough when O'Reilly and his ilk do it.

And anyway. Stephen Colbert does it so much better.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 12:56 AM
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littlebit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 01:13 AM
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3. You didn't get the memo?
It is always Clinton's fault.:sarcasm:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 03:46 AM
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8. But now that Hillary's was also breached--Obamafolk blame Bush!--convenient!!
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 03:30 AM
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4. And it turns out an OBAMA advisor owns one of those passport contracting companies.
The Analysis Corporation (TAC), which is headed by John O. Brennan, a former CIA agent who is an adviser to Mr. Obama's presidential campaign on intelligence and foreign policy.


That's the most incredible bit of all. While people were blaming Clinton, it turns out that the one employee who did NOT get fired worked for OBAMA's advisor.

McCain's passport was breached, too, FWIW.

But hey, I think it'll be "crickets" when it comes to anyone saying "Ooops, I may have been too quick to accuse" --because it is just too much fun to stuff that 'politics of hope' in favor of slash and burn.

I'm not going to characterize this as nefarious, though, because the investigation isn't finished, yet--the fact that Obama's campaign advisor on INTEL ran the company that had the employee who was not fired who accessed his private passport record. It's an interesting fact, though.

Wonder who "alerted the media?" THAT I'd like to know....
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 03:45 AM
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7. Yes, I read that ealier on thread.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 03:56 AM
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11. Wonder how many Obama supporters will post an apology for accusing Clinton
of the dastardly deed of smearing Obama trying to sink his campaign?

My guess is a nice round number -0-
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 04:03 AM
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12. I think Olbermann should apologize, too. He was suggesting the same thing,
and comparing it to WATERGATE!!!!
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 04:14 AM
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14. I agree. It's the least he can do.
and if he's half the man he thinks he is. Mention the employee committing the breech was an employee of Obama's own adviser!

We'll see how this plays out. Forgotten in a day?

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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 03:41 AM
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5. Thanks for the post
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 03:43 AM
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6. REC
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 03:56 AM
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10. Sorry but I still do.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 08:11 AM
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16. No surprise there!
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 04:11 AM
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13. It was the MIC looking for blackmail info on all three. Bush has AT&T and NSA.
He doesn't need to look at passports. He knows every email, fax and phone call they have all made for the last 7 years.
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FedoraLV Donating Member (226 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 04:50 AM
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15. A tactic,
once established, may be used by any party to further any cause (or set of interests).

No one has posted who *asked* for these breaches (if anyone higher up did) and why -- were they looking for information or did they have a larger purpose?

Until we know that we can't say who's responsible or what they were up to.

-FedoraLV
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 08:27 AM
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17. They wanted to. And they did
They will destroy the democratic party. They will reap what they sow. And other outworn truisms.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:19 AM
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19. I did not hear Olbermann say any such thing...
Edited on Sat Mar-22-08 09:21 AM by stillcool47
lady who a decade ago was ambassador to some far away country was instructed by the Clintons to breach Obama's passport, even though this woman is currently a Bush employee.
..the fact that she worked for the Clinton Administration may not mean anything to you...it's just one of those silly facts. I would hope that someone would get to the bottom of this story, but who cares? Kind of funny how two different companies were involved in the breach. The one with the trainee that accessed Clinton's file came from one company. While the others involved a separate Company. Interesting isn't it?
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rainbow4321 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:36 AM
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20. HRC passport breach was during a controlled exercise on system security
NOT a random---correction, THREE random---invasions as is the case with Sen Obama's files. Why is it being spun otherwise? WHO benefits from the misleading information????

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