So an Obama supporter is the contractor involved in Passportgate?

[OzarkDem]

Interesting. I don't think this is a coincidence. Rove really must be giving Obama advice.

http://online.wsj.com/public/article/SB120606170975853607-rtNjh0yg8tEUOSa405iXZVXSaBk_20080420.html?mod=tff_main_tff_top

[FrenchieCat]

1. Could you cite the passage please........that you are referring to?

I try not to "do" the WSJ, cause some of the writers there are objectionable.

Thank you.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

5. This OP is a blatant lie.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

8. Like Hillary, eh? making shit up all the time.

a compulsive liar.

[JeffR]

9. A blatant lie?????????? From OzarkDem???????????????

No way!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111111111111

[TacticalPeek]

34. !!!!"Mr. Brennan also serves as an adviser to Sen. Obama's campaign."!!!!

Way!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111111111111

[OzarkDem]

58. Read the article

or look like just another fool for Obama who doesn't have the good sense to adequately research their own claims.

[NashVegas]

74. Analysis Corp CEO Brennan: Campaign Adviser to Obama

And heavy donor. Where's the lie?

[Tatiana]

13. Here:

Analysis Corp., whose CEO, John Brennan, is the former head of the National Counterterrorism Center, specializes in counterterrorism and data-management consulting and has provided services to the State Department and other federal agencies for nearly two decades. One of its first contracts was to automate the State Department's terrorist watch list. The company is doing counterterrorism work for most of the 16 intelligence agencies. Mr. Brennan also serves as an adviser to Sen. Obama's campaign.

[FrenchieCat]

19. So Brennan is the guy that disagreed publicly with Obama about

Obama's stance on Telecom bill...the one Obama voted no on.


Intel Adviser Breaks with Obama over FISA, Telecoms
March 07, 2008 12:22 PM

In a new interview with National Journal magazine, an intelligence adviser to Barack Obama's presidential campaign broke with his candidate’s position opposing retroactive legal protection for telecommunications companies being sued for cooperating with a dubious U.S. government domestic surveillance program.

Last month, Obama voted to strip language in an intelligence bill that would have granted to Verizon, AT&T and other companies the immunity Brennan favored. The firms have been identified in lawsuits as having cooperated with a National Security Agency program to intercept phone calls and other communications data within the United States.

What does Obama think? "Sen. Obama welcomes a variety of views, but his position on FISA is clear. He and Brennan differ," said campaign spokesman Tommy Vietor.
http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2008/03/intel-adviser-b.html

[Tatiana]

24. Yes, he is. n/t

[FrenchieCat]

31. and.....

The Analysis Corp. worker who had pried into Obama's files also looked into the files of Republican Sen. John McCain of Arizona, department officials said. The worker has been disciplined and removed from working on passport files.

Asked why the employee is still working for the contractor, McCormack said, "I can assure you that person's going to be at the top of the list of the inspector general when they talk to people, and we are currently reviewing our (disciplinary) options with respect to that person."

New York Democratic Sen. Hillary Clinton's files also were accessed last summer during a training session for an employee. The worker, a full-time State Department employee, had been called in to help with the backlog of passport requests.

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/356079_passports22.html

[Iceburg]

35. Disagreed last month? ... oh boy...They say the cover up is worse than the crime.

I wonder if the newly self-appointed chief of Non-Intell (KO) and Nonsense in General will expose the timeline of corruption, and dirty tricks in a "a very special comment". Or will Keith just drop the story like a stone cuz its not going to look good for his team?

[kerry-is-my-prez]

41. Are you going to apologize for calling the OP a liar?

That might be the nice thing to do.....

[JoFerret]

51. Indeed it would.

(I actually read the article)

[papau]

47. Obama supporter Brennan confesses and is able to change subject from Wright -hmmm

[HCE SuiGeneris]

2. WTF are you talking about? There is nothing in the article to back up your lie.

Cite the passage or remove your lie.

[TacticalPeek]

20. Did you read this part?

"Mr. Brennan also serves as an adviser to Sen. Obama's campaign."

Will you admit it says what the OP said it does?

[rodeodance]

22. yes, that is the part that is very interesting indeed

[casus belli]

26. The CEO wasn't responsible for the breach. How are his politics relevant? n/t

[HCE SuiGeneris]

32. From the article...

"This individual's actions were taken without the knowledge or direction of anyone at TAC and are wholly inconsistent with our professional and ethical standards"


The person who committed the breach is not John Brennan, who is an adviser on Obama's Foreign Policy team. The OP's stretch to tie this to Karl Rove is a joke. The CEO of Stanley Inc., that was responsible for the other two incidents, is an ardent Clinton supporter. Does this tie him to Rove too?



I will admit that in my anger over the OP's conclusion, I missed the cited portion in my quick read.

[TacticalPeek]

38. I'm hip to the article, I read it. And you are the only one to cowboy up and admit

And you are the only one to cowboy up and admit to some responsibility for going off half cocked. My admiration is offered.

I don't care about Brennan or think he's tied to Rove. But I do think Obama needs a different adviser and this passportgate should be thoroughly investigated, etc.

[OzarkDem]

55. Let's see what a full investigation shows

Surely there's a way to verify this individual's claims. We deserve an answer.

[Kool Kitty]

3. I don't think any of the candidates are involved in this.

(Aside from having their passports breached.) I still think that this came from Bush, like it came from his father, during Bill Clinton's campaign. This is shitty opposition research. W wants to know all he can about who is going to take his place in the White House an if he has anything to worry about. Maybe I'm not explaining myself well, but I mean, who would be less likely to look at all the hidden stuff, the dirtiest deals, etc.

[blonndee]

4. Welcome back!

Your contributions are much appreciated. Even though they're full of shit. :)

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

6. OzarkDem just made SHIT up. I guess you opposed NAFTA and you passed the SCHIP program too?

FAKE FAKE FAKE, JUST LIKE HILLARY.

[TacticalPeek]

21. Did you read this part? Do you understand it?

"Mr. Brennan also serves as an adviser to Sen. Obama's campaign."

Will you admit that you understand it, that it is not FAKE?

[Catherina]

7. I have a strong stomach but welcome to my ignore list

People who post the kind of rubbish you just posted aren't worth the desperate attention they seek.

[JimGinPA]

10. Wow! Looks Like You Solved The Case Scooby!

Just a bit of a stretch though.


:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

[OzarkDem]

54. It certainly bears a closer look

and all 3 candidates files were breached by someone who works for Obama's friend. What are they up to? Obama needs to answer some questions.

So far I find most of his "friends" to be highly disreputable people. Says a lot about him.

[TacticalPeek]

11. Indeed.

Except Rove would advise that they not get caught.

One of its first contracts was to automate the State Department's terrorist watch list. ... Mr. Brennan also serves as an adviser to Sen. Obama's campaign.

Great job they did on the Terrorist Watch List.

My advice: find a different advisor. Brennan also wants telecom immunity. Bleh.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5200000&mesg_id=5200000

[OzarkDem]

62. Its very suspicious

and needs to be investigated fully. Supposedly Waxman's committee is in charge.

But once again, this is another problem we face with an Obama candidacy and, if elected, an Obama presidency. No one will want to fully investigate or criticize anything he does for fear of being called "racist". He will have a free ticket to make bad decisions and engage in corrupt activites as no one will want to be labeled a racist for questioning him.

[Exultant Democracy]

12. If you are using that link as proof you are misleading people on purpose, what gives?

[TacticalPeek]

25. "Mr. Brennan also serves as an adviser to Sen. Obama's campaign."

What about that is misleading? Is Brennan an adviser to Clinton's campaign?

Can you admit what your honest reaction would have been if you had learned that this CEO was an official *Clinton* adviser?

[OzarkDem]

53. Read the article

the information is in there.

[emilyg]

14. TY

Analysis Corp., whose CEO, John Brennan, is the former head of the National Counterterrorism Center, specializes in counterterrorism and data-management consulting and has provided services to the State Department and other federal agencies for nearly two decades. One of its first contracts was to automate the State Department's terrorist watch list. The company is doing counterterrorism work for most of the 16 intelligence agencies. Mr. Brennan also serves as an adviser to Sen. Obama's campaign.

The State Department

[SunsetDreams]

15. This can't end soon enough..

this is beyond the pale

What a bogus link

[OzarkDem]

65. Google it

its in many media sources. Obama folks should try to salvage some level of credibility by stopping their knee-jerk attacks on anyone who posts information that they don't like.

[CarbonDate]

16. Are you getting these two mixed up?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_J._Kennedy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_F._Kennedy

The first is a Congressman from Rhode Island and an Obama supporter. The second is a career bureaucrat who served as Assistant Secretary of State under Clinton and Chief of Staff of the Coalition Provisional Authority under Bush. Patrick F. Kennedy is, indeed, involved with Passportgate as the Undersecretary for Management. It's an understandable mix-up, but your link doesn't refer to Patrick Kennedy, so I'm not quite sure what you're getting at.

Right now, although there are a few things people who want to believe that the Clinton campaign was involved with this can point to, my read is bureaucratic mismanagement, not dirty tricks.

ON EDIT: I see, now. Analysis Corp. Got it. Interesting, but it tends back to my read on this.

[SunsetDreams]

17. Thank you carbondate

[TacticalPeek]

18. Read the linked article.

Passport Breaches Fuel Concerns
Files Are Searched
Of 3 Candidates;
Lax Security Cited
By JAY SOLOMON and SIOBHAN GORMAN
March 22, 2008; Page A3

snip

The second company, Virginia-based The Analysis Corp., learned Friday that one of its employees was involved. "This individual's actions were taken without the knowledge or direction of anyone at TAC and are wholly inconsistent with our professional and ethical standards," the company said in a statement. The company said it has delayed taking any "administrative action" against the employee at the request of the State Department as it conducts its internal investigation and that it believes the incident is isolated.

Analysis Corp., whose CEO, John Brennan, is the former head of the National Counterterrorism Center, specializes in counterterrorism and data-management consulting and has provided services to the State Department and other federal agencies for nearly two decades. One of its first contracts was to automate the State Department's terrorist watch list. The company is doing counterterrorism work for most of the 16 intelligence agencies. Mr. Brennan also serves as an adviser to Sen. Obama's campaign.

Would all of you posters above with the WTF and the 'blatant lie' baloney care to admit that this article says exactly what the OP said it did? Can you cowboy up and admit it?

[FrenchieCat]

27. It appears that Brennan is not the actual person who did the search.....

Maybe Brennan got pissed at Obama because of Obama's Telecom vote? And this still doesn't answer the question as to why Obama wasn't notified about the breach by the State Department.

On Jan. 9, the day after the New Hampshire primary, a Stanley contract employee accessed Obama's records and was fired within days, officials told The Associated Press. A second worker, employed by The Analysis Corp., looked into Obama's files on Feb. 21, but was not fired. On March 14, another Stanley employee pried into the Democrat's files and was terminated.

It was not immediately clear why employees at the two firms were treated differently. But in a statement issued late Friday, The Analysis Corp. said it was honoring the State Department's request to delay firing its consultant in order to give investigators time to conduct their inquiry.
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/356079_passports22.html

[TacticalPeek]

30. No one ever claimed he did. You and others trashed an honest post.

I could care less who did what or who advises who, but I care about truth and you and several others jumped without basis on the post as questionable, misleading or an outright lie.

Facts are stubborn things.

All I know on the substance is that Obama should get a different adviser.

[FrenchieCat]

36. How did I "trash" the post. Please tell me.

I'm researching this....like I always do.

Find my "trash" post and copy and paste it into your response to me.

[CarbonDate]

28. Read my edit (posted six minutes before your response):

"ON EDIT: I see, now. Analysis Corp. Got it. Interesting, but it tends back to my read on this."

Just saying.... I already did what you said in your reply. And if you'd read my entire post, even before the edit, you'd see that I simply asked OzarkDem what (s)he was referring to. When I went back and looked again, I found it. As noted in my edit.

I know we're in an hostile environment here, but there's no need to add to the hostility.

[OzarkDem]

59. Nothing about Kennedy - read the article

The second company, Virginia-based The Analysis Corp., learned Friday that one of its employees was involved.

Analysis Corp., whose CEO, John Brennan, is the former head of the National Counterterrorism Center, specializes in counterterrorism and data-management consulting and has provided services to the State Department and other federal agencies for nearly two decades. One of its first contracts was to automate the State Department's terrorist watch list. The company is doing counterterrorism work for most of the 16 intelligence agencies. Mr. Brennan also serves as an adviser to Sen. Obama's campaign.

[Tatiana]

23. Let's set aside knee jerk reactions here.

The OP is coyly referring to John Brennan, who supports Obama for President and happens to have been the first (acting) director of the http://www.nctc.gov/">National Counterterrorism Center in addition to being the CEO of http://www.theanalysiscorp.com/">The Analysis Corp, the contracting company involved in the second security breach of Obama's passport file.

Additionally, this guy favors telecom immunity. Taken at face value, this doesn't look pretty. But Obama CLEARLY disagrees with Brennan's policy on telecom immunity and has voted accordingly in the Senate:

What does Obama think? "Sen. Obama welcomes a variety of views, but his position on FISA is clear. He and Brennan differ," said campaign spokesman Tommy Vietor.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2008/03/intel-adviser-b.html

As an adviser, Brennan would be privy to a lot of information contained in Obama's passport file. So I honestly don't think Brennan had anything to do with it. However, Brennan is obviously, as the CEO of a private sector company, worried about telecom immunity, given that his company does work in the intelligence community.

I don't like Brennan as an adviser, his knowledge notwithstanding (which is extensive). However, in terms of formulating a response to terrorist threats, logistics and strategy involved in securing chemical plants and the like, I can see why Obama would want to pick the brain of someone of his expertise. But I don't like it.

[Hoof Hearted]

29. I can't WAIT for Olbermann to throw the full weight of his awsome integrity behind this!

Oh. I remember now. HE NO LONGER HAS ANY.

[Life Long Dem]

33. The second company looks like a setup

The two employees from "Stanley Inc." breached Obama's files, and were fired and the other company no one was fired and McCain and Hillary are said to be the victims.

The second company is "The Analysis Corp." where Mr. Brennan serves as an adviser to Sen. Obama's campaign and the company they say breached McCain's and Hillary's files, in which no employee was fired. And odd that two were fired by breaching Obama's files, yet no one was fired for breaching the two candidates Hillary and McCain. Fishy it is and they say this company was conducting training at the time.

Okay, here is what happened (Monk). Okay, what I think happened.

Like the Abu ghraib tortures only the soldiers received any blame. Same thing here. After the two employees went to the reporter(and I heard because bush was ignoring the employees concern over breaches)they were fired after they went to the reporter.

[FrenchieCat]

37. Not totally accurate.....

Hillary's breach was by a full time State department worker; no contractors involved.

The 1st Obama breach was Stanley on January 9th.

The 2nd Obama breach was The Analysis corp on Feb 21st.

The 3rd was Obama and McCain, but was Stanley again on March 14th.

That's what it seems from what I'm reading.

[Life Long Dem]

40. It's confusing. I don't like the past tense wording either. "has" for example.

Still needs figuring out.

[Tatiana]

39. I should probably go to bed, because I can't believe the stupid $hit I'm reading.

Are we not seeing the forest for the trees?

On one hand, we have this guy, Brennan, who is CEO of a contracting company who snooped in the passport files of a Democratic candidate; the same candidate that this guy advises. There may be no there there. But the link should be investigated.

On the other hand, you have a political strategist/pollster of another Democratic candidate who is the CEO of a company (Burson-Marsteller), whose subsidiary is run by a longtime Republican that is an adviser to the MCCAIN CAMPAIGN.

And we wonder why even when we win, we lose!!!!! Maybe it's because some of these so-called Democratic supporters are loyal not to progressive values, but to the almighty corporate (welfare-enriched) dollar!

Full disclosure: I fully support Barack Obama as I believe he is our best shot at freeing ourselves from this corporate stranglehold. But I don't have blinders on.

[FrenchieCat]

42. I'm trying to figure out which was the Brennan Breach vs. the Stanley Breaches?

Passport firms' CEOs donated to Lieberman, Clinton and Obama

The same person that breached Obama's passport on March 14th and was disciplined also breached McCain's, according to State Department spokesman Sean McCormack.

The Associated Press later identified Stanley, Inc. as the Virginia-based contractor whose two employees were terminated. One prescient blogger who guessed correctly that Stanley was the contractor in question noted that its CEO is a political donor:

...ne thing that would add to the appearance of impropriety is that CEO Nolan has, according to the Open Secrets database, been a campaign contributor to Sen. Joe Lieberman, a leading supporter of Obama's Republican adversary John McCain. In March 2005 Nolan gave $1,000 to Lieberman's reelection campaign.

The NBC News 'Deep Background' blog has more on Stanley as well as another firm involved in the breaches, The Analysis Corporation of McLean, including the revelation from public records that Stanley CEO Nolan "gave $1,000 to Sen. Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign on Feb. 20, 2008" and Analysis CEO John Brennan "gave $2,300 to Sen. Obama on Jan. 28, 2008."

Bill Burton, a spokesman for Obama's presidential campaign, called for a complete investigation.

"This is an outrageous breach of security and privacy, even from an administration that has shown little regard for either over the last eight years," Burton said. "Our government's duty is to protect the private information of the American people, not use it for political purposes."

"This is a serious matter that merits a complete investigation, and we demand to know who looked at Senator Obama's passport file, for what purpose and why it took so long for them to reveal this security breach," he said.


http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/356079_passports22.html

[Tatiana]

43. It is my understanding that the second breach of Obama's files was from the Analysis Corp (Brennan).

That person was not terminated and I'd like to know why.

[Life Long Dem]

44. Obama's spokesman Burton sems to be implying it was used for political purposes.

He wouldn't have even brought that up if they didn't have an idea. And why didn't MSM or anybody jump on Burton for making those accusations? They even had Condi talk to Obama.

[TacticalPeek]

45. And Brennan is an ex-CIA agent.

The third employee, who has not been fired, worked for The Analysis Corporation (TAC), which is headed by John O. Brennan, a former CIA agent who is an adviser to Mr. Obama's presidential campaign on intelligence and foreign policy.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=3045475&mesg_id=3045494

I'm sure it's just a funny coincidence.

[cali]

46. That's every bit as disgusting as those who blamed Clinton

You are such a piece of work.

[madrchsod]

48. it really sucks does`t it

when people read the article and find out this is has been an on going problem for years. so what is your point? obama accessed his own files and maybe johns?

in case you forgot old man bush did the same thing to bill and i know you could never ever admit that maybe the current bush stooges did the same thing to john and barack

you talk about karl rove`s advice but i`d say you are doing a great job all on your own...

[OzarkDem]

68. All 3 candidates files were breached

It needs a full investigation, with people testifying under oath.

And why does someone need a CIA "advisor" for their campaign, especially when they don't have advisors for even more important issues?

[TexasLady]

49. I don't know if this makes any difference

but I read some interesting stuff at huffpo.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/21/maura-harty-state-depart_n_92693.html
The network reported that Maura Harty, the State Department official in charge of the Bureau Of Consular Affairs during the first two breaches of Obama's passport, had served as an ambassador under Bill Clinton.

[OzarkDem]

57. Debunked already

She was hired by Bush I and stayed on for Bush II.

I do admit, one of the few mistakes Clinton made in his administration was to "reach out to the other side" and keep so many GOP'ers in his administration instead of dumping all of them. Its another reason why I oppose Obama, he proposes doing the same thing.

[Enrique]

50. ONE of the contractors

not THE contractor.

[UALRBSofL]

52. OP I just read your post and sure enough it was the Obama Campaign that breached the passports

Here is the paragraph and the people in question:

Analysis Corp., whose CEO, John Brennan, is the former head of the National Counterterrorism Center, specializes in counterterrorism and data-management consulting and has provided services to the State Department and other federal agencies for nearly two decades. One of its first contracts was to automate the State Department's terrorist watch list. The company is doing counterterrorism work for most of the 16 intelligence agencies. Mr. Brennan also serves as an adviser to Sen. Obama's campaign.

I am just shocked and appalled that the Obama Camp breached top secret material. This reminds me of WaterGate. I just hope the people involved in Obama's Camp are prosecuted to the highest level.

[against all enemies]

56. Why do Hillary supporters always cite the WSJ, Fox News, Pat Buchanan

and the rest of the right wing media. When these same media outlets post info supporting Republicans they are laughed at. Why does the Right wing want Hillary to win the nomination so badly?

[OzarkDem]

63. The story is all over the MSM

Do a Google search.

[against all enemies]

67. That's the right wing playbook. One of their outlets starts a story, then

everyone else picks it up, then all of a sudden it's fact. Have you been paying attention the last 8 years?

[OzarkDem]

72. Obama can clarify it

perhaps all the campaigns need to provide an easily accessible list of their "advisors".

[Armstead]

60. Yes but you're stretching it

The head of a large company that does the contracting is on the Obama campaign.

That doesn't automatically mean the actions of a low level worker was connected to him.

[OzarkDem]

64. It needs to be investigated

Sorry, but I'm not going to take the word of Condi, Obama and the contractor. All three have what you would call a "conflict of interest".

[Armstead]

70. I'll say the sdame thing I said about Hillary

I started a thread earlier on the whole Passport thing that those who immediately connected it to the Clinton campaign were wrong in making assumptions without the facts.

I say the same thing about this aspect of it. Unless facts show otherwise, there is no basis to assume or spread rumors that it is some nefarious scheme.

[OzarkDem]

75. Investigation needs to be quick

Sadly, Congress is in recess. Its also strange that Rice apologized only to Obama.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

61. you would say anything to hurt Obama

[OzarkDem]

66. I feel sorry for you

[barb162]

69. "Mr. Brennan also serves as an adviser to Sen. Obama's campaign."

Facts are facts.

[barb162]

71. Wow, all that crap here since Friday it was a Hillary plot. Sheesh

[barb162]

73. K & R.

[Celebration]

76. I'm a huge Obama supporter and I think it is interesting

There is so much double dealing out there--supporters of candidates and political parties are spying on their own side, even, trying to get blackmail material, etc. It is a dirty, dirty world out there. There are Republicans pretending to be Democrats, etc.

I can imagine this guy was really ticked off at Obama's telecom vote. It shows Obama is not owned by his "advisors."

Honestly, every political candidate out there has this problem--supporters that are not, double dealers, blackmail artists, and whatever.

Not to mention--the employee could also be an agent for someone besides the employer. This is a very complicated situation. It would be nice to find the truth to the situation, but I can almost guarantee you that we won't find the truth.

One thing is for sure--Obama did not order his own passport records to be stolen. If a double dealing "supporter" did, well, he needs to know about it. But he won't. I bet he places some calls to this "advisor", though.