Would Obama supporters be happier if Hillary supporters just left DU for good? Just wondering...

[BigBearJohn]

I for one would not be happy if all Obama supporters left DU.
However, with all the vitriol expressed towards Hillary and
her supporters, I often wonder if all the Obama supporters
would just prefer that we left and went somewhere else.

So, the question is, is there still room for Hillary supporters
on this board?

[Drunken Irishman]

1. Just the assholes.

:D

[napoleon_in_rags]

8. What percentage of Hillary supporters make up the "assholes"?

is it 1 out of every 10? The amount that, if they didn't vote in November would throw the election to McCain for sure? (Based on current polls of Obama v McCain and Hilary's support numbers)

I'm not trying to give you shit, but seriously...we are walking a tightrope here.

[Drunken Irishman]

13. It was a joke.

And I think, on average, most Hillary and Obama supporters are far from what they're like on DU.

[Life Long Dem]

27. Some would sell their party to McCain

[Mezzo]

55. and some Obamamaniacs would GIVE the party to McCain on a silver platter.

Lest you forget all the 'reaching around'...er...'reaching out' your camp has done to circumvent the WILL of the DEMOCRATS in the Democratic Party.

[Life Long Dem]

72. The disenfranchised voters of FL and MI need to complain to their states

And not anyone else. As much as you would like to blame others specifically Obama for your loser candidate you can't. And anytime you want to argue the details with me I welcome you to bring your details to the table or stop your crying.

[Beacool]

87. Loser? Tell that to your guy when FL goes once again to a Republican.

Don't want to count their votes? Well, then don't complain when they vote Repug in November.

[napoleon_in_rags]

98. Yeah, as I said I'm not trying to give you shit...But still I worry.

This really is a small place you're right...But I've gotten the impression that this little group of people here has gotten some big eyes on them, the most important of which is the primary obsessed MSM scouring the net for juicy leads.

[rucky]

53. Yeah, it's about 10%

From both sides that have gots to go. I don't think there's much chance of winning 'em over one way or another - they just drag everybody down. And 10% here is about 0.000000001% of voters - not 10.

There'll be a cool-down period sometime after PA. It'll just have to happen naturally, because nobody's convincing anybody of anything on GD-P.

[napoleon_in_rags]

99. I hope you're right. I just worry about how things here get amplified.

I've seen some big stories seem to break here that the MSM runs with...I just worry that they'd be far too eager to run with damaging stuff with their current primaries related ratings obsession.

[LordJFT]

97. yep mainly just the ones that say they won't vote for obama in the general, maybe a couple others

[Seabiscuit]

103. Fewer than 1 out of 20.

I know, because over 95% of the 700+ assholes I have on "ignore" are Obamanoids.

[FARAFIELD]

39. Yes just the assholes

I thought the HILLBOTS like progressives, i guess not. But the problem is that the Hillbots that are posting from Hannity and somesuch places about Wright, that did it for me.

[MonkeyFunk]

42. But Obama fans posting

from Andrew Sullivan, Peggy Noonan and Bob Novak are a-OK?

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

48. Just the a-holes can go over to FreeRepubes, which would raise the IQ-level of both boards.

[roguevalley]

73. agreed. I think they should just toughen up like the rest of us.

[murielm99]

2. I am not going anywhere.

No one has a right to drive Clinton supporters away from this board.

Remember, many of them are people who are new, or who show up only during primary season, even if they have been registered a long time. They will leave again soon. The spots under their bridges are dark and inviting.

It's funny. I spend a certain amount of time around republicans, because of where I live. Some of them use the same talking points that I see posted here.

[LaurenG]

3. No, I wouldn't like it if Senator Clinton's supporters left

and yes there is room for all democrats.

Wow how boring that would be if all we did was talk to ourselves. I've learned a lot here, mostly having to do with relationships with who those vehemently disagree with me. I think it can be worked out though.

[lapfog_1]

4. They don't bother me too much

of course, my ignore list is now taking a while to load...

After Obama is the official nominee of the party, I will get rid of the ignore list...

so, no, I don't want them to leave... however, right now, they could all go on vacation or something.

Hillary, and now Bill, are no longer Democrats to me. Their constant favorable comparison of McCain to Obama has killed any chance that I'll support them...

I don't forget... and it's waaaay too early to forgive.

I said after Wisconsin, when many Obama supporters were offering olive branches around here, "don't be so quick, I don't think she is going to drop out".

[Gore Edwards]

105. Control

So as long as you're "the dictator",(right now) you're ok with fascism? Any suggestions as to where to vacation? Perhaps a gas chamber posing as a shower? Just asking. And trust me, I'm not asking for forgiveness or forgetting from the likes of you. I honor your ignore list.

[lligrd]

5. Hell No, If They Left, We Wouldn't Appear So Smart Would We?

Might as well just join a MENSA group or talk to myself.

[McCamy Taylor]

6. I was wondering if Du should make a Hillary GDP and an Obama GDP

These would, of course be mutual masturbation circles, but at least people could sit around and formulate campaign strategy which would be a positive endeavor as opposed to the constant bickering and sniping.

There could also a be a Flame Room or War Room where people go to have fun sniping.

[Stardust]

14. Quite honestly, I applaud Skinner for not packing up his board and going home.

The vitriol here is almost as bad as what's happening out there on the trail. And I thought this election would be unequivocally a landslide for the Dems. Now when I see that McCain might actually have a chance, I can't help but think it's partly because we Dems have behaved so badly and childishly that those strong-daddy-junkies are totally turned off.

Talk about a circular firing squad!

DU alums insist it was worse in 2004, and I guess they'd know. I joined a couple of years later and I didn't sense any animosity among the different camps (except I did get rebuked by someone when I dared to say something negtive about Kerry. I was a newb. :blush: )

I thought the same as you, about 2 GD-P's but trust that the DU gods know best.

:hi:

[REACTIVATED IN CT]

66. Not a bad idea since many primaries are over already

Who do the zealots think they are going to convert ? I've already voted in my state's primary and I will vote for the eventual Dem nominee in the general. No doubt about it.

[UALRBSofL]

67. McCamy I think that is a good idea

BTW, If I haven't told you, I love reading your journal. You do such good work I would expect you were a journalist. That said, your last entry was great. It was fair and balanced. That said, don't give the Obama Camp any ideas on how to win. Your last entry was like a war chest of ideas. :)

[cali]

7. No. Just those who mouth racist crap.

and really that's just a handful.

[SoCalDem]

18. and the ones who gleefully post ONLY Rassmussen & Gallup

polls daily..without looking at the polling data that AVERAGES all the polls..

truthfully, HRC is only up a FEW points from where she started waaaaay back last year.. What's different (and truly vexxing to them) is that Obama CAUGHT up to her once he became known..

and the ones who were perfectly OK with the FL & MI situation back when they thought she would run away with it....but NOW seem only interested in making it somehow HIS fault..:eyes:

and the ones who fail to see that DELEGATES are what matters..and that NO state is "unimportant" in a primary, since we are only running dem v dem..and there are dems in ALL states, not just the "blue" states which will back pretty much EITHER dem candidate..

To scream and holler how she WON NY, is ridiculous..kind of like bragging about how the Steelers beat Sacred heart jv football team

[ashling]

9. The vitriol goes both ways

There is a large amount of it coming from Hillary supporters as well.

I have another suggestion, everybody in GDP: just grow up

[chknltl]

10. NO!!!!

Some of the folks I have the greatest respect for, admire and have learned so much from, are supporters of Senator Clinton. The DU would be a sad sad place for their loss. Call this Obama supporter selfish but I do NOT want to see them leave. Not now, now yesterday, not ever!!!
:grouphug:

[AGirl]

11. stupid question.

[BigBearJohn]

16. Nice insult. At least I was able to make some people think instead of just spit on each other..

And if it was such a stupid question -- what does
that make you for taking the time to post a response?
Or was it simply your purpose to somehow enlighten me as to
how stupid I am? By the way, does butter melt in your mouth?

Or could it just be that you had nothing more intelligent to say?

Hmm... oh well... peace.

[Alexander]

12. No, many Hillary supporters here are smart, sane loyal Democrats.

Many are trolls here just to stir up shit, and trolls should be gone no matter who they support.

[VeraAgnes]

15. You probably already

know the answer to that question. The Hillary Forum here on DU has found it's nitch so go take a visit and follow the trail of bread crumbs...:)

[Adelante]

17. No, I don't want that nt

[NYPat]

19. Good question, thanks for asking it.

I've been wondering the same. I'm surprised that the answers haven't been more
obnoxious, as of yet. I certainly don't think Clinton supporters feel welcome here.
Many have gone to other boards already. I keep wondering how antagonizing so many
and building bitter resentments is going to help the Obama campaign.

[Political Heretic]

20. You want to hear an inconvenient truth: your candidate's campaign has a lot to do with this.

No, I don't want all Hillary supporters to leave. Some of my best friends are Hillary supporters. :P (laugh, its a joke)

But Obama supporters and independents who haven't made up their minds yet are getting more and more angry every day. As the anger builds, it becomes more and more challenging to express oneself in positive ways.

Why is the anger building?

Because Hillary Clinton, Mark Penn and the cabal around her have chosen to wage of of the most sickeningly vicious, deceitful, manipulative campaigns in recent memory, and they have chosen to do so at a time when they cannot possibly win, they can only harm people's perception of the democratic party, disenfranchise voters, embolden the republican party and nominee and weaken our chances in the general.

Her campaign has put their collective egos above everything else, and have made it clear that as far as they are concerned "anything goes" - no lie is out of bounds if it my score political points. No distortion goes to far, no smear is off limits, no manipulation of delegates, rules or votes is out of line - anything that might work in their favor, no matter how slime or hurtful to the party is fair game.

I've been consistently shocked and stunned by the Clinton campaign's ego-first scorched earth philosophy of "if I can't have it, no one can." The best thing for the party right now is for one candidate to drop out immediately. No one - not you, not anyone else - can come up with a plausible rationale for how continuing this campaign of bashing each other helps the party. It doesn't. Dragging this out doesn't help the party. Every day it goes on, no matter who the nominee ultimately is, our chances get worse in the general.

Who should step aside today? The person with the most votes, the most pledged delegates, the most states won and the most money? Or the person who has lost more votes, lost more pledged delegates, lost more states and has less money?

People have a right to be incredibly angry with a candidate who is losing every critical indicator and has essentially zero chance at a nomination who, after looking at the situation, realizing that the republicans already have a nominee, and seeing that the media is covering nothing but a negative fist fight between the remaining democrats while John McCain sits quietly back getting a free pass on everything --- STILL REFUSES TO RALLY BEHIND THE FRONTRUNNER AND MOVE THE PARTY ON TO THE GENERAL.

Sometimes, that anger comes out here against Hillary supporters. It shouldn't, and the mean and hateful personal attacks are out of line, and I say so when I see them. But I have never in my life felt more BETRAYED by a democrat than I do by Hillary Clinton. Before this election I was neutral toward her. It was easy for me to say I'd vote for her in the general. Now I am simply disgusted beyond the pale.

[Perry Logan]

21. I call bullshit. The nastiness of the Clinton campaign is an Obamite myth.

[Political Heretic]

37. Riiiiiiiiiiight

okay :eyes:

[susankh4]

40. Yes it is.

And the lies keep building upon the lies. And the worse it gets the less likely it will be that we (Hill supporters) will vote for Mr. Obama in the fall.

[Forkboy]

76. Except for the non Obama supporters who see it too.

:eyes:

I hear there's monsters under your bed, too.

[Tatiana]

84. Bill Richardson disagrees with you. n/t

[guruoo]

65. Sorry about that refusal to submit to your will thingie.

Don't you just hate it when that happens?

:rofl:

[Auntie Bush]

80. That's because you believe all the bias BS posted here and on the corp media.

Don't you realize they are picking out our president and you believe them hook line and sinker. Be more critical and objective in your listening and reading and you'd see all the bias. EVERY single thing is SPUN in Obama's favor and NOTHING is spun to give Clinton the benefit of the doubt. I've read nothing but nasty things about Hillary...so unless you analyze and think for yourself you're going to automatically dislike or even hate Hillary.

If I listened to all hate Obama channels all day...I'd hate him too...but I don't... because I think for myself and draw my own conclusions. I personally concluded our country would be better off under the Clintons. That reflects my personal judgment...not the medias. If Obama wins I will vote for him because we would be better off with Obama than McCain...in spite of all the viscus Obama supporters on this board who wouldn't vote for Hillary if she won...yet they want us to vote for Obama. In spite of that...I'll still be faithful to the Democratic party.

[Political Heretic]

90. No that's because I watch and listen to her and her campaign staff with my own eyes and ears.

C-SPAN doesn't lie. Neither do her press releases, campaign emails and staff interviews.

Nothing that I am talking about has one single thing to do with any media pundit. You don't need the media to see what they principle players are putting right in front of your face every day.

[Perry Logan]

22. Here's some ongoing documentation on how the Obamites have shit all over DU

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5120659

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4779500&mesg_id=4779500

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4849238&mesg_id=4849238

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4922044&mesg_id=4922044

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4942967&mesg_id=4942967

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4964704&mesg_id=4964704

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4965088

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4965227

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4982708&mesg_id=4982708

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5036756

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5065868&mesg_id=5065868

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5156352&mesg_id=5156412

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5165104&mesg_id=5165104

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5180133&mesg_id=5181094

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5195072&mesg_id=5195072

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5204441&mesg_id=5204441

Reporting threats against Hillary:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4999545&mesg_id=4999545

[LaurenG]

23. Any of us can grab hateful threads from both sides

You can't possibly believe that only one side has been OTT. Btw, that last link is archived with nothing on it???

[Perry Logan]

26. The Obama people are BY FAR the main offenders. I have noted this ever since I came here.

[LaurenG]

28. I wonder if it's because their are more of them? nt

[Perry Logan]

34. There may be more of them. But there's a HUGE qualitative difference in their posts.

[Political Heretic]

92. That's subjective opinon.

[Forkboy]

77. I've seen both...you a partisan who sees what he wants and nothing else.

Anyone who thinks their campaign can claim the high road is useless.

[Dinger]

61. Bookmarked

Thank you Perry.

[KnaveRupe]

62. Not one of the OP's you linked to was by an "Obamite shitting on DU" .

Each one of those threads was started by a Clinton supporter whining about how badly they've been treated by Obama supporters, and not one of those OP's had a link to ACTUAL bad behavior by Obama supporters.

Oh, wait, one of them WAS from an Obama supporter - calling for civility.

From one of your links: "9 out of 10 threads are Hillary bashings"... yet you didn't link to a single one. Weird.

[guruoo]

64. Here's some links...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=greatest_threads

Take your pick, any day of the week.

[chascarrillo]

89. an enemies list!!!

How Nixonian!

Honestly, Perry, you're the last person who should be documenting midslinging.

[Political Heretic]

91. We can make the exact same list of Hillary supporters doing the same thing.

[Political Heretic]

94. Oh wait correction - no we can't since none of your links actually show anything!

Just read the poster above mine, and went back and clicked through all of your links. Once again I am screwed by taking someone at their word - I assumed the links would indeed be to Obama posters individual posts saying horrific things....

....but NO! They aren't.... there links to other Clinton supporter threads crying about bad Obama supporters without evidence. AGAIN.

My.
God.

:eyes:

[DerekJ]

24. No But

STOP FUCKING SMEARING OBAMA using RW tactics and parroting FOX news. Other than feel free insult the crap out of him, we don't care.

[shaniqua6392]

25. Both sides have their share of trolls.

Both sides have their share of authentic supporters. Once the nominee is chosen, which I hope is soon, the trolls will fade away. I think it has been just horrible here the last several months, but I do not wish for anyone to leave. That would be undemocratic. I have also noticed many long time posters are gone now. I never see them post any more and I think that is sad. I think some people have left and gone somewhere else and I wonder if they will ever be back.

[LulaMay]

29. hahahahahaha! yur funny.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

30. The Correct Question

Would Obama supporters be happy if the 47.1 of the Democrats who voted for Hillary left the party, ergo:


http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/democratic_vote_count.html

[Iceburg]

31. Ladies ... mydd.com or Taylormarsh.com are civil and uplifting alternatives/nt

[JoFerret]

50. Do you realise how deeply offensive and misogynist your comment is?

Do you have ANY idea?

And if you do...are you OK with that?

[goldcanyonaz]

69. I believe they do. Mysogynistic posts around here are all the rage.

[BootinUp]

82. nothin for the guys who support her eh? nt

[Guava Jelly]

32. I read vitriol from both camps

Nobody here is an angel.
I would not like Sen Clintons supporters to leave DU because many of them are very wonderful people who I care about.
The negativity needs to stop

[pecwae]

33. From what I've read

here I feel the majority of the Obama supporters would not only love for HRC backers to leave, but think they're not true Democrats and are racist. There's only a handful of HRC supporters who post bother to post.

[BooScout]

35. Most have already left anyway...

I few of us pop in every now and then, but the hate sort of turns most of us off.

[JoFerret]

52. The vileness is very disturbing

Why are so many Obama supporters on DU so willing to trash and demean and vilify Hillary with their cartoons, and sig lines and extremist responses? I have seen considerable anti-Obama but NOTHING like the anti-hillary level of foul. (The only exception has been the comments from obvious trollers from "outside" and whose only interest is stirring up trouble.)

It reflects mostly on them of course but it does not reflect well on their candidate.
The Obama supporters I know in real life are intelligent, caring and sincere democrats. Why have the crazies landed in DU? And why is it that they - many of them - wallow in the filth and put reason aside. Is it the medium?

I do get the sense that they would love to cleanse DU of all but Obama worshippers. This is no way to start on creating a better world folks.

[TexasProgresive]

36. A pox on the Hilary haters and Obama haters.n/t

[MH1]

38. With a few exceptions, NO.

There are quite a few wonderful posters who support Hillary. I have always tried to direct what vitriol I have (and sometimes there's quite a bit, to be sure) at Hillary, not at her supporters. I'm sure I've slipped a few times when someone's insisted on being a jackass, but generally that's what I use ignore for.

I think it would be unfortunate if Hillary supporters felt unwelcome here because they hold a minority view. That said, I've taken spells away from DU myself because I hold minority views that I don't dare express here - sometimes any attempt rational discourse at DU is drowned out by the mob view, and it just isn't even worth the effort.

But, if Hillary supporters will refuse to get behind the eventual nominee (and this goes for Obama supporters too, including myself, if he isn't the nominee for some reason), then they don't belong at DU anyway. The site does have rules, and there's plenty of other places to hang out on the internets.

As to a few long-standing members of my ignore list: they are first-class assholes, and it wouldn't matter who they support, I would be perfectly glad to see them gone.

[Vinca]

41. I'd be happy if people got a grip and realized this is only a chat board,

a tiny blip on the Internets. No matter how nasty any of us get on either side, it won't make any difference in the big picture. I we weren't so stupid we'd be looking for solutions, not creating problems. If we end up with McCain in Bush's third terms, we'll deserve it.

[Bensthename]

43. No Way. That would take the fun out of the Den Dis Prim board

[wildeyed]

44. No.

I am buddies with many Hillary supporters. I would never let a primary come between us.

As many have observed, there is ugliness on both sides of this debate. I do not like being referred to as an Obamite or cult member or what ever the insult du jour is for Obama supporters. However, I recognize that most Hillary supporters are not engaging in that low level debate, just as I would never use the term Hillbot or whatever.

I use ignore and hide thread a lot in this forum. I have my options page set to hide all GD: Primaries threads. When I want to discuss primaries, I come in here knowing it is a wild ride. The rest of the time, my DU experience is a primaries-free event :)

[democrattotheend]

45. I wouldn't

I said last night that i hope you guys stay. I like having DailyKos as a haven for Obama supporters but it also gets boring sometimes. I'd rather you guys not post inflammatory things that make me so mad I don't want to vote for her in the fall, just as I have encouraged fellow Obama supporters to refrain from nasty attacks on Clinton and her supporters. But I definitely do not want you guys to leave...I like that we have both here...I just wish we could have more productive discussions instead of fights.

[Orsino]

46. Competition is good...

...if we could have the kind of competition in which each candidate tried to outdo the other in progressive platform planks. By now we coulda had universal veterinary care and abortion of Bush family members on demand.

And supporters of could be boasting about their candidates' promises, rather than trying to trip up the opposition with photos of unlicensed hummus and blowjob references.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

47. Hillary supporters should stay-debate is good-Hillary disrupters should go.

[JoFerret]

49. There's a deal of mob mentality going on

And it's very unattractive.

Makes me wonder. it really does.

[JerseygirlCT]

51. yes there's room! My goodness, yes!

We all need each other in this. The big fight is still ahead. We MUST regain the WH and a commanding majority in Congress.

I think the question is whether you are willing to put that partisanship aside and help get a Dem elected? I know I would be, regardless of my disappointment with the Clintons.

[Warren Stupidity]

54. I'd be happier if Mrs. Clinton suspended her failed campaign.

Barring that, I'm fine with discourse on substantive differences between the candidates, but I am disgusted with the inane shit-flinging from both sides. Stop it.

When the Clinton campaign turned to attacking Obama's credibility as a candidate they crossed a line that should not be crossed. Her attempts at positioning herself and McCain as the only credible candidates are pretty close to unforgivable to me. To the extent that the Clinton shit-flingers here are echoing her campaign talking points in this regard, then yes of course I would prefer that they took their destructive crap elsewhere. I do not quite understand why DU is supporting efforts to elect McCain.

[EFerrari]

56. This morning, the WJ host accidently called her "Mrs. McCain". n/t

[babsbunny]

57. Even though I voted for Hillary in the Primary........

I am still undecided. Obama and Hillary supporters are showing their collective asses! I am shocked at how mean you Democrats are!

[Coexist]

58. of course not.

[LittleClarkie]

59. The vitrol is coming from both sides

Seriously.

It ebbs and flows, sometimes more one, sometimes more the other.

It only looks one-sided to you because you're a Hillary supporter.

It looks one-sided to me too, only I see Obama vitrole.

But it's just a perception thing.

It's both sides.

Stay if you're going to stay. Leave if you're going to leave. Try not to do the GBCW post if you can help it. Just leave if it's getting to be too much and come back when you feel better, quietly is nice. I do it quietly. I just disappear for a few days til I feel like coming back.

There's room for anyone who has the intestinal fortitude for DU during primary time, aka Thunderdome.

The only Hillary supporters who really bother me I could count on one hand. The ones who both post threads like this one, complaining about all the vitrole toward Hillary, who then post their own. When it's the same person, it's sort of passive/agressive. "Everyone is picking on us" followed by a thread about Obama cult worshipers or somesuch insulting bullshit.

[zulchzulu]

60. If Hillary supporters didn't participate in Kitchen Sink attacks full of lies, it would be cool

Hillary Clinton is clearly aware that she has to lie and cheat to win at this point. If people could engage in reasonable conversation, that would be cool.

For instance, I was really pissed when Joe Wilson comes out in an OP saying that Barack Obama is so clueless about foreign policy that he would be a danger to this country. Excuse me? So his choice not to be suckered into Bush's wars as well as having a stellar group of advisors that worked with Wilson in the past. Bill Clinton inferring that Barack Obama is "unAmerican" compared to his wife and adoring McCain. Ferchrissakes, even Hillary Clinton inferred that Obama was "unAmerican" because of an agreement SHE signed onto last fall referring to the Michigan Re-Vote.

I would appreciate Hillary Clinton supporters more if they finally admitted that she doesn't have a chance at being the nominee. If people can proved to me otherwise, I'd be glad to see that analysis.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

74. neither one of them can get to the magic number ....it's going to Denver

and that's just the way it is.

[GarbagemanLB]

63. If they don't use right-wing articles/links to support arguments, they can stay.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

75. you just condemned yourself with your own accusation

Obama folks are equally as guilty of this offense

[bvar22]

68. Just those who boast that they will NOT vote for the Democratic nominee.

They are NOT Democrats.

[uponit7771]

70. No, we love you all. You guys are tough, please keep fighting but ask yah homegirl to give it up

[tammywammy]

71. I would like for trolls and all posters that just shit on candidates to leave

:shrug:

If a poster only posts threads denigrating and overall being a nasty person towards a candidate, then I wish they would leave. They're a distraction and do their candidate no favors by acting that way. Also, posters that continually start threads with RW sources, I wish they would leave too.

[Forkboy]

78. Just the psuedo ones here to damage her by acting like flaming idiots.

And the ones doing the same "for" Obama.

[canadian_is_cold]

79. No! I look forward to my daily dose of comic relief ;) n/t

[Jamastiene]

81. Yes, they would.

They don't realize, they'd have no one to kick around then. That's when I would pop :popcorn: and watch the infighting begin. This is one bunch of people who LOVE to blame everyone else but themselves for shortcomings. If we Hillary supporters weren't around, they'd just eat each other (in a bad way). They are rabid.

[sniffa]

83. They already did

They're in the HRC Supporters group.

[Beacool]

85. Don't worry, what plenty of us will be taking is our vote

and that counts much more than anything anyone can post on a blog.

[ZombieHorde]

86. No.

Obama supporters and Clinton supporters would be happier if all of the freepers, who pretend to be on one side or the other, left.

[Catherina]

88. Just the assholes. I have 8 repeat assholes on my ignore list

and not seeing their ignorant bile makes all the difference. Most other HRC supporters are just passionate like Obama supporters.

[Milo_Bloom]

93. Just the paid shills.

[mudesi]

95. YES

Why can't the Clinton loyalists understand that she has lost the nomination?

Right now, her only strategy is to run again in 2012. In order to do that, she has to ensure that John McCain wins the general election. Every single Democrat here ought to be calling for Clinton to step down.

[EFerrari]

96. If this site is for supporting Democrats, why in the world

are we fussing more over two individuals than over the long term goals of the party?

I'm not even a registered Dem right now but, just asking.

[JoFerret]

107. Not a registered dem?

Crikey.

[kid a]

100. If Hillary support = Obama hate? Yes.

[crankychatter]

101. I would be happier if corrupt conservatives would leave the Democratic Party

yup

[Seabiscuit]

102. If Edwards and Hillary supporters left DU, this place would go under, because all that would

be left would be the numerous freepers pretending to be Obama supporters, the large crowd of Obamanoids, and the small handful of old-timers-gone-off-the-deep-end Obama supporters. The freepers and Obamanoids don't contribute to DU. They're just here to disrupt and practice their flaming.

Come to think of it, maybe the Edwards and Hillary supporters should leave, just to see what happens to this place.

[TheDonkey]

104. Yes, according to the straw polls there are only about 5 of them throwing the slime

around.

[Arkansas Granny]

106. I'm not leaving, but there are fewer and fewer threads here that I feel like responding to, lately.

There has been more thrash throwing and poo flinging on this board in the past few weeks than actual discussion of issues. This trash has come from supporters of both candidates and seems to be escalating. Some of the remarks have gotten really nasty and personal. That's not what I come here for.

I've seen several Obama supporters who seem to be quite happy with this supposed boycott, so it does appear that many of them would be happier with an echo chamber than with intelligent debate.