Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

MSNBC and racism

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU
 
Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:52 AM
Original message
MSNBC and racism
Can we all PLEASE take a moment to respectfully ask MSNBC to seriously consider not having Pat Buchanan on to discuss the issue of race in America?

He just compared Rev. Wright – again – to David Duke. And he has the nerve to say this as if he thinks Duke is a bad guy. Well, Pat, we know you don’t like that he ”steals” from you, but other than that, you seem to think that Klansman Duke is a pretty cool guy:

Here is Buchanan on Duke:

Consider Buchanan's own words on the former Klansman: "David Duke is busy stealing from me," Buchanan said in 1991. "I have a mind to go down there and sue that dude for intellectual property theft."

In a column sympathetic to ex-Klansman David Duke, Buchanan chided the Republican Party for overreacting to Duke and his Nazi "costume": "Take a hard look at Duke's portfolio of winning issues and expropriate those not in conflict with GOP principles, reverse discrimination against white folks." (syndicated column, 2/25/89)


This is not a man whose thinks like “Joe American”. MSNBC, perhaps in its desire to show “both sides” constantly gives a proud bigot a microphone. Unfortunately, the ideals of this country on race do not fall in the exact middle of Buchanan and Obama. They fall much closer to the Barack Obama we heard in his historic speech. And although Buchanan may be an effective commentator on other issues, the race issue is one MSNBC needs to keep him away from – he is hateful.

How can they , in good conscience, have a man who said, in a September 1993 speech to the Christian Coalition, that multiculturalism as "an across-the-board assault on our Anglo-American heritage."

And:

On race relations in the late 1940s and early 1950s: "There were no politics to polarize us then, to magnify every slight. The 'negroes' of Washington had their public schools, restaurants, bars, movie houses, playgrounds and churches; and we had ours." (Right from the Beginning, Buchanan's 1988 autobiography, p. 131)

And:

White House adviser Buchanan urged President Nixon in an April 1969 memo not to visit "the Widow King" on the first anniversary of Martin Luther King's assassination, warning that a visit would "outrage many, many people who believe Dr. King was a fraud and a demagogue and perhaps worse.... Others consider him the Devil incarnate. Dr. King is one of the most divisive men in contemporary history." (New York Daily News, 10/1/90)

And:

In a column sympathetic to ex-Klansman David Duke, Buchanan chided the Republican Party for overreacting to Duke and his Nazi "costume": "Take a hard look at Duke's portfolio of winning issues and expropriate those not in conflict with GOP principles, reverse discrimination against white folks." (syndicated column, 2/25/89)

And:

Trying to justify apartheid in South Africa, he denounced the notion that "white rule of a black majority is inherently wrong. Where did we get that idea? The Founding Fathers did not believe this." (syndicated column, 2/7/90) He referred admiringly to the apartheid regime as the "Boer Republic": "Why are Americans collaborating in a U.N. conspiracy to ruin her with sanctions?" (syndicated column, 9/17/89)


Giving a man like this air time, as though his thoughts on race and unity in this country are valid and important is offensive to me. Buchanan's views are offensive to most decent Americans.

If you feel the same way, please Contact MSNBC and let them know.

Thank you.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:54 AM
Response to Original message
1. Contacting MSNBC won't help you
You need to contact General Electric.......they write the paychecks and GE is a republican controlled corporation. Good luck.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:57 AM
Response to Reply #1
4. if they got a big enough response, they would limit him to other issues
but contacting GE is good, too, do you have a good email address, or mailing address to use?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:13 AM
Response to Reply #4
14. Perhaps an online petition with a lot of signatures sent to MESS NBC?
I know a lot of people think online petitions are meaningless, but if well-worded and with a great many signatures, perhaps we would at least get their attention. Just a thought.




Peace:thumbsup:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:28 AM
Response to Reply #14
19. how do you do that?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 12:36 PM
Response to Reply #19
28. I, personally don't know, but I've heard other DU'ers mention knowing how to do it.
I'm going to look into it though.




Peace:thumbsup:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
fortyfeetunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 01:37 PM
Response to Reply #1
33. We can boycott GE...
get the sponsors of MSNBC....
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:55 AM
Response to Original message
2. Speaking of Joe
That racist in the morning SOB Joe Scarborough was unbelievable this week.
I'm surprised Mika didn't break a chair over his thick rednecked noggin.


MSNBC needs to figure out what they stand for.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ekwhite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:01 AM
Response to Reply #2
5. I wouldn't do that if I was her
Considering he has a habit of finding dead interns in his office, a dead co-host is not outside the realm of possibility.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:05 AM
Response to Reply #5
9. LMAO! Good one.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:04 AM
Response to Reply #2
8. He was and is quite awful. I had to turn him off and put on some jazz to calm down.
Edited on Sat Mar-22-08 10:04 AM by Window
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 02:04 PM
Response to Reply #2
36. I can hardly stand it when I see..
Scarborough's arrogant ass, he gets so angry as though he is speaking for all white people. They need to put some blacks up there who will tell his ass where to get off. He really thinks this country is just black and white.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 03:44 PM
Response to Reply #36
37. Perhaps Gimpy Scarby needs Marsellus to keep him honest
Marsellus: What now? Let me tell you what now. I'm gonna call a coupla hard, pipe-hittin' n*****s, who'll go to work
on the homes here with a pair of pliers and a blow torch. You hear me talkin', hillbilly boy?
I ain't through with you by a damn sight. I'm gonna get medieval on your ass.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:56 AM
Response to Original message
3. Pat Buchanan "Slavery Best Thing Ever to Happen to Blacks"
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/3/22/83758/9895/1022/482071

Barack Obama's speech this past week illuminated aspects of the racial divide in this country in a nuanced and respectful manner. This speech offered an opening for dialogue. Pat Buchanan has offered his response.

"America has been the best country on earth for black folks. It was here that 600,000 black people, brought from Africa in slave ships, grew into a community of 40 million, were introduced to Christian salvation, and reached the greatest levels of freedom and prosperity blacks have ever known."

Buchanan amazes with a tone deaf defense of white resentment by claiming slavery is the best thing that ever happened to black people in a posting on his website yesterday. Buchanan's contribution to this dialogue is as appalling as Obama's contribution is appealling.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:11 AM
Response to Reply #3
13. OMG. He sounds like he took it seriously on that sitcom
(was it All in the Family, and Lionel Jefferson?) when that black character said to a white character that he was right, blacks DID have it easy in America. Why, they didn't even have to arrange for their own transportation there--the white people came over to Africa with a ship and picked them up!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ebdarcy Donating Member (654 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:37 AM
Response to Reply #3
20. I saw someone on DU making this same claim.
I hope they're proud of the company they keep.

Pat Buchanan is the man who taught me that the terms republican and racist are many times interchangeable. I made that connection before the age of ten, when I was sitting with my grandpa watching CNN. Pat Buchanan would be on one of those political shows and expose himself for the horrid person that he is. That was twenty years ago. I can't believe this man is still allowed to spew his hatred over the airwaves.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
JimGinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:02 AM
Response to Original message
6. The Only Way To Stop This Shit Is To Have Some Strong Democrats Call Them Out On It...
And not just M$NBC, all the networks who use pundits with obvious agendas need to have it thrown back in their faces.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:02 AM
Response to Original message
7. Thanks for posting this. I know that a few of us on this board are not the only ones
upset about this, so hopefully people all across the nation can make enough noise to make a difference. Good post !
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:08 AM
Response to Reply #7
11. thank you. Please read this recent post on his blog:
http://buchanan.org/blog/?p=969

Only this. It is the same old con, the same old shakedown that black hustlers have been running since the Kerner Commission blamed the riots in Harlem, Watts, Newark, Detroit and a hundred other cities on, as Nixon put it, “everybody but the rioters themselves.”

Was “white racism” really responsible for those black men looting auto dealerships and liquor stories, and burning down their own communities, as Otto Kerner said — that liberal icon until the feds put him away for bribery.

Barack says we need to have a conversation about race in America.

Fair enough. But this time, it has to be a two-way conversation. White America needs to be heard from, not just lectured to.

This time, the Silent Majority needs to have its convictions, grievances and demands heard. And among them are these:

First, America has been the best country on earth for black folks. It was here that 600,000 black people, brought from Africa in slave ships, grew into a community of 40 million, were introduced to Christian salvation, and reached the greatest levels of freedom and prosperity blacks have ever known.

Wright ought to go down on his knees and thank God he is an American.

Second, no people anywhere has done more to lift up blacks than white Americans. Untold trillions have been spent since the ’60s on welfare, food stamps, rent supplements, Section 8 housing, Pell grants, student loans, legal services, Medicaid, Earned Income Tax Credits and poverty programs designed to bring the African-American community into the mainstream.

Governments, businesses and colleges have engaged in discrimination against white folks — with affirmative action, contract set-asides and quotas — to advance black applicants over white applicants.

Churches, foundations, civic groups, schools and individuals all over America have donated time and money to support soup kitchens, adult education, day care, retirement and nursing homes for blacks.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:08 AM
Response to Reply #7
12. delete - dupe
Edited on Sat Mar-22-08 10:09 AM by FLDem5
http://buchanan.org/blog/?p=969

Only this. It is the same old con, the same old shakedown that black hustlers have been running since the Kerner Commission blamed the riots in Harlem, Watts, Newark, Detroit and a hundred other cities on, as Nixon put it, “everybody but the rioters themselves.”

Was “white racism” really responsible for those black men looting auto dealerships and liquor stories, and burning down their own communities, as Otto Kerner said — that liberal icon until the feds put him away for bribery.

Barack says we need to have a conversation about race in America.

Fair enough. But this time, it has to be a two-way conversation. White America needs to be heard from, not just lectured to.

This time, the Silent Majority needs to have its convictions, grievances and demands heard. And among them are these:

First, America has been the best country on earth for black folks. It was here that 600,000 black people, brought from Africa in slave ships, grew into a community of 40 million, were introduced to Christian salvation, and reached the greatest levels of freedom and prosperity blacks have ever known.

Wright ought to go down on his knees and thank God he is an American.

Second, no people anywhere has done more to lift up blacks than white Americans. Untold trillions have been spent since the ’60s on welfare, food stamps, rent supplements, Section 8 housing, Pell grants, student loans, legal services, Medicaid, Earned Income Tax Credits and poverty programs designed to bring the African-American community into the mainstream.

Governments, businesses and colleges have engaged in discrimination against white folks — with affirmative action, contract set-asides and quotas — to advance black applicants over white applicants.

Churches, foundations, civic groups, schools and individuals all over America have donated time and money to support soup kitchens, adult education, day care, retirement and nursing homes for blacks.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:07 AM
Response to Original message
10. dun
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:14 AM
Response to Original message
15. Media= Scab-Pickers.. that's all they are
Edited on Sat Mar-22-08 10:15 AM by SoCalDem
they deliberately "hire" the most blatant anti-whatever they plan to discuss person and then cue the tapes over and over and over and over..

Have we seen Phil Donahue invited on any shows (other than PBS)?''
How often is Howard Zinn invited
or Chomsky
or
Michael Moore

When Stephanie Miller is invited, it's for humor..not serious discussion

but we are "treated" daily to the likes of Pat B and his androgenous sister and even the regulars have agendas.. Bill Schneider aka AEI "fellow"..

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:15 AM
Response to Original message
16. I did this last week but will again.
:kick:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:28 AM
Response to Reply #16
18. thank you - his latest blog posting is so disgusting I did again, too.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Bensthename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:17 AM
Response to Original message
17. I normally like Pats views, though lately he down right disgusting talking about Obama
He should at least try harder not too show his bias and racist views.

Though Pat never does take middle ground on most issues. Everything he sees is extremely good or bad.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
panader0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:38 AM
Response to Original message
21. I just wrote to MSNBC
I won't watch again until that idiot is gone.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:40 AM
Response to Original message
22. If Pat worked for another network, he'd make regular appearances on
Keith's "Worst Person" segment.

I emailed lots of addresses over at MSNBC about Pat's latest. My husband is faxing them his opinion. I have written so many emails to MSNBC about Pat, and combined with the number I know they're receiving from others, I can only conclude that they either share his views, or keep him on because they think he's good for business.

I'm turning MSNBC off except for the hour in which Countdown airs. I've had it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 12:37 PM
Response to Reply #22
29. he SHOULD be named Worst Person for that blog entry.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 12:41 PM
Response to Reply #29
30. Yup. I emailed Pat's blog entry to Keith. Hopefully, others will as well.
Edited on Sat Mar-22-08 01:08 PM by No Surrender
on edit - Do you post under the same name at kos? Over there, I'm summer wind.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:47 AM
Response to Original message
23. Perhaps he should be asked to "retire"
His opinions are sickening and he only adds to the "dumbing down" of any one who listens to/reads/watches him.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:51 AM
Response to Original message
24. He's such a weasel.
Fair enough. But this time, it has to be a two-way conversation. White America needs to be heard from, not just lectured to.

No more lecturing, must be two-way conversation, says Pat, but then won't allow comments to this post on his blog!

Fuck off, Pat.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Middle finga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:54 AM
Response to Original message
25. Done
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 12:02 PM
Response to Reply #25
26. thank you!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
superkia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 12:25 PM
Response to Original message
27. With MSNBC's ratings going up, they have started to become...
FOX news jr. Once they see people are tuning in, they seem to move completely to their agendas and away from actual coverage. And yes I know that all of the news channels are full of agenda driven bullshit but it seems to get worse when they see their ratings growing. I have noticed how their coverage has been worse and find myself watching CNN more now.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 12:50 PM
Response to Reply #27
31. so do I. CNN, as much as people call it the Clinton News Network,
is actually the most balanced, as far as I can tell.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
better tomorrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 01:12 PM
Response to Original message
32. someone said it won't help you but.....
it did with Rita Cosby and Tucker Carlson.....

Let's try!

I'll send them this link....

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 01:42 PM
Response to Reply #32
34. thank you.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
tokenlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 01:51 PM
Response to Original message
35. Honestly, I think Obama and Buchanan should get together for a private talk..
..just to see if they could find some common ground. It is a crazy thought, but the thought has been intriguing me.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 06:15 PM
Response to Original message
38. evening kick!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu Apr 25th 2024, 04:36 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC