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casus belli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 12:40 PM
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Lieberman as McCain VP?
They sure do seem to be spending a lot of time together on the campaign trail of late, and Lieberman seems to be prominently displayed in all photo and video ops.

I didn't think my opinion of Lieberman could get any worse. I was wrong.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 12:40 PM
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1. Certainly some position in the cabinet if not VP
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Luisverde Donating Member (19 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 02:35 PM
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31. Secretary of Defense
because McCrazy will offer the Vice-Presidency to Mitt Romney. I think that it is a done deal...But McShamwill not be elected unless Mrs. Clinton manages to
win the nomination away from Obama
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 12:42 PM
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2. I've browsed through a couple of repug sites. Seems they are trying to make the GE about Israel.
Many predict a Jewish flight if Obama is the nominee and the repugs want to capitalize on that. This election will be the one where we force the Neocons out of Washington forever.
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casus belli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 12:43 PM
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4. I sincerely hope you're right. n/t
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 12:47 PM
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6. Only thing I'm afraid of is the Jewish flight part.
That could hurt us in the election. However, a lot of repugs aren't happy with the neocons, so perhaps LIEberman will help sway them to Obama.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 12:47 PM
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5. There will be no 'Jewish flight' from the Democratic Party.
Be it Obama or Clinton, more than 75% of Jews will continue to vote Democratically.
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casus belli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 12:50 PM
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7. I have a tendency to agree...
I haven't been really hearing much made of this issue in a negative way since Obama appealed to the Jewish community for reconciliation between the African American and Jewish communities.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 01:29 PM
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16. IMO...
...much of the Wright 'flap' was actually about stirring the pot of anti-Semitism. I read a number of things about the issue, from a variety of sources. The one thing it left me with was people on the far-right trying to show how much power the Jews have and on the left, how much of a threat "pro-Israel" people are. The funny thing is most of us 'pro-Israel' Jews tend not to be single-issue voters, even where Israel is concerned. While we may be very concerned with a candidate's positions on Israel, it is usually not a "deal-breaker." To be honest, I have seen more people on the "left" willing to vote 3rd party, not vote, or even vote Republican because of a candidate's position on Israel.

The Jews are not monolithic, though we do tend to vote overwhelmingly Democratic.
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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 12:42 PM
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3. More likely Lindsey Graham..
LIEberman would be in a cabinet position if McCain gets elected, though.
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Lobster Martini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 01:13 PM
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8. I wouldn't rule out McCain/Giuliani
Rudy was awfully quick to endorse McCain after his own campaign crashed and burned.

McCain/Jeb Bush is another possibility I've considered, but it's too horrible to think about.

Can't see a McCain/Lieberman pairing...I could imagine Lieberman as...no, must get that image out of my mind, quickly...
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 01:15 PM
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9. Scary...
I usually avoid Hitler comparisons, BUT if there is one candidate who is a fascist, it would be Giuliani. He's beyond your typical "law and order (but order above all else" neoconservative. We would be living in some kind of police state under 9/11-man.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 01:16 PM
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10. I expect it.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 01:29 PM
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15. The Senior moment... Love it
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stlsaxman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 01:18 PM
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11. No, it'll be Cheney... the deal is done.
the 22nd ammendment to the constitution doesn't cover the VP.

Cheney will NOT let go of his power.
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phillyliberal Donating Member (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 01:21 PM
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12. yes
why doesn't Joe move to Israel and become active in Israeli politics? He seems to be more concerned with their well being than the country he is currently serviving as an "independent"
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 01:22 PM
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13. Neocons believe America exists solely to act as Israel's private army and bank.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 01:32 PM
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18. Care to back that up?
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 01:36 PM
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22. Just look at Norman Podhoretz.
He was advocating that Bush bomb Iran back in October. BTW Podhoretz is one of the first Neocons ever to exist.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 01:41 PM
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25. Again, this doesn't back up your position or the position of the other person.
Edited on Sat Mar-22-08 02:17 PM by Behind the Aegis
Iran has been on the 'hit-list' for a long, long time. And "Podhoretz is one of the first Neocons ever to exist", so? What does that prove?

Edit: caught a misspelled word.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 01:31 PM
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17. Care to substantiate that remark?
Or just stand by the classic "Joe is a Jew and therefore has dual-loyalties, but is more loyal to Israel?"
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 01:32 PM
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19. If you look at the neocon's agenda, it is extremely pro-Israel.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 01:35 PM
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21. If you look at the neocons' agenda it is pro-neocon...period.
Just because it also appears to be "pro-Israel" doesn't mean they believe America exists to be Israel's private bank and army. That is just a bigoted remark.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 01:39 PM
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23. I apologize for the over simplification.
But if you read some of their writings you see a definite pro-israel bend. For example, the asshole Kristol's article entitled "It's Our War."
http://weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/012/433fwbvs.asp
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 01:43 PM
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27. I know there is a pro-Israel "bend."
The state of Israel is considered an ally in a region where we have little power. It is not surprising the neo-cons would try to use that alliance to gain a further foothold, but to pretend the neo-con movement is about Israel or that Israel controls the US (which you didn't state, but is often heard in these parts), is woefully myopic.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 01:45 PM
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28. I agree.
The neocons are a diverse mix of special interest groups. The scariest one IMO are the Corporatists.
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Flabbergasted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 01:40 PM
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24. Very weak ticket. McCain/Lieberman would be avery strong ticket....
Edited on Sat Mar-22-08 01:40 PM by Flabbergasted
capable of winning indies and Reagan Democrats easilly.
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stlsaxman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 02:33 PM
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30. the strength of the "ticket" matters not-
they own the voting machines. all they have to do maintain the appearance of a close race and follow it up with "well, the "people" have voted for security against the "enemy".

the propaganda machine will back them up on that.

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MidwestTransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 01:23 PM
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14. Somebody has to be there to correct McCain for his miscues.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 01:33 PM
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20. Yes. Joe will simply echo them...
...and defend them unto death.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 01:43 PM
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26. I think he needs a true believer like a Huckabee as VP...needs to
rally the right-wing that still hasn't warmed to them. Liar-berman is insane, but not enough for the right.
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 01:46 PM
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29. Wright as Obama VP?
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Luisverde Donating Member (19 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 02:39 PM
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33. No, it will be Sam Nunn of Georgia or Joe Biden of Delaware
and maybe Bill Richardson as his Secretary of State. His Secretary of Defense will be whomever does not get the VP nod (either Nunn or Biden) and the Attorney General will be John Edwards. Hillary will stay in the Senate contemplating a primary challenge in New York by Bloomberg (yes, he will change back to Democrat) or by Caroline Kennedy (!!!!!!!)
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 02:41 PM
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34. Cynthia McKinney as head of Homeland Security.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 02:37 PM
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32. Isn't lieman like the
Kiss of Death?
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 03:00 PM
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35. That wouuld really piss off the fundies. and that would be disasterous for McCain
The DObsonites would have a cow. And Bauer/keyes would announce a third party run.

McCain needs the fundies not just for thie votes but for their money. Lieberman would kill him financially for very little gain.

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