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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 01:57 PM
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Since either Obama or Clinton will be running against McCain, why don't they campaign against him?
Rather than see how well they can destroy one another.

Those who are somehow undecided between the 2 Democratic candidates could compare how they stack up against the Republican nominee. Then we could see and compare their actual stances and policies rather than having to scrape the dirt or perceived dirt from our tv or computer screens from the personal attacks. I more than half suspect that much of the vitriol between Clinton and Obama is being stirred up by the right and many of us Democrats take the bait and swallow it hook, line, and sinker.

But as Will Rogers said, "I am not a member of any organized political party. I am a Democrat". Here at a time when we have the opportunity to marginalize the Republican Party and put them down for the count we seem determined to show the American people how we can piss away a great victory. Can you imagine the strides that could be made by a Democratic president with a Democratic congress and how much good we could do for this country?

The next president will either be a Democrat or John McCain. That person will nominate justices to the Supreme Court as well as many other judges. That person will determine the direction in which this country moves and if it is McCain and the Democrats do not have veto proof majorities in congress, then we already know how that will work out. If the candidate I support does not win the nomination, I am not willing to bite my nose off to spite my face. We cannot all get exactly what we want and I believe that either of our candidates is far, far superior to McCain. I want a Democrat to be the next president and if I do not support our nominee and do what I can to see that person is elected, then I will feel like I have blood on my hands if McCain is elected. How could I ever explain to my children and grandchildren that I refused to do all I could to see a Democrat elected to the presidency in 2008?

So support your candidate by all means, but cutting down the candidate you do not support does not make your choice taller--it just makes you appear petty and childish and your candidate, too, if they participate in the nonsense. Our candidates are not paragons of perfection or virtue--they are human, but they are light years better than McCain. Don't glory in winning the battle that loses the war. We need to keep our eyes on the prize.
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tokenlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 01:59 PM
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1. Obama was doing that--but then Hillary hit him in the head with that damn sink n/t
Sometimes ya just gotta fight back...
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gravity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 02:01 PM
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2. Exactly
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gulliver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 02:10 PM
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5. I think that is a cop out.
Edited on Sat Mar-22-08 02:11 PM by gulliver
Obama's best way to fight Clinton is to show Obama is better at beating up McCain. Both Clinton and Obama are doing an incredibly poor job. There is no good explanation for it, IMO. Maybe they think that they are "saving their powder" against McCain for the GE or something equivalently stupid. Their campaign staffs seem to be really lowbrow when it comes to political moves--a bunch of committee-headed, probably infighting dufuses who can't make moves.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 02:05 PM
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3. Actually, Obama is running against him. Clinton is running for him.
:crazy:
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 02:08 PM
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4. I thought she was running WITH him.
Edited on Sat Mar-22-08 02:09 PM by A-Schwarzenegger
:-)
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 02:10 PM
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6. Indeed, my dear elocs...
I have wondered this myself...

You've said it perfectly:

Don't glory in winning the battle that loses the war. We need to keep our eyes on the prize.

K&R

:patriot:
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 03:12 PM
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7. Barack is now campaigning against McCain and often says "when
I'm President." She's hardly in his speeches anymore, he's getting on with business..
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ecdab Donating Member (834 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 03:44 PM
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8. Hillary is too busy trying to convince the good people of
Florida and Michigan not to vote for Democrats in the General Election and telling the entire country how swell a McCain presidency would be to campaign against any Republicans (like, say McCain). Her train wreck needs to be ended. She is doing damage to the Democratic party in Florida and Michigan that no Republican could ever hope to duplicate. The GOP in Michigan and Florida have to be wetting their pants in glee as they read the barrage of twisted emails coming out of the Hillary campaign.
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