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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 05:33 PM
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The Fears of White People
This essay is excerpted from The Heart of Whiteness: Confronting Race, Racism and White Privilege (City Lights, September 2005).

More information at: http://2xconsciousness.blogspot.com/2008/01/heart-of-whiteness.html

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The Fears of White People

by Robert Jensen

September 08, 2005


It may seem self-indulgent to talk about the fears of white people in a white-supremacist society. After all, what do white people really have to be afraid of in a world structured on white privilege? It may be self-indulgent, but it's critical to understand because these fears are part of what keeps many white people from confronting ourselves and the system.

The first, and perhaps most crucial, fear is that of facing the fact that some of what we white people have is unearned. It's a truism that we don't really make it on our own; we all have plenty of help to achieve whatever we achieve. That means that some of what we have is the product of the work of others, distributed unevenly across society, over which we may have little or no control individually. No matter how hard we work or how smart we are, we all know -- when we are honest with ourselves -- that we did not get where we are by merit alone. And many white people are afraid of that fact.

A second fear is crasser: White people's fear of losing what we have -- literally the fear of losing things we own if at some point the economic, political, and social systems in which we live become more just and equitable. That fear is not completely irrational; if white privilege -- along with the other kinds of privilege many of us have living in the middle class and above in an imperialist country that dominates much of the rest of the world -- were to evaporate, the distribution of resources in the United States and in the world would change, and that would be a good thing. We would have less. That redistribution of wealth would be fairer and more just. But in a world in which people have become used to affluence and material comfort, that possibility can be scary.

A third fear involves a slightly different scenario -- a world in which non-white people might someday gain the kind of power over whites that whites have long monopolized. One hears this constantly in the conversation about immigration, the lingering fear that somehow "they" (meaning not just Mexican-Americans and Latinos more generally, but any non-white immigrants) are going to keep moving to this country and at some point become the majority demographically. Even though whites likely can maintain a disproportionate share of wealth, those numbers will eventually translate into political, economic, and cultural power. And then what? Many whites fear that the result won't be a system that is more just, but a system in which white people become the minority and could be treated as whites have long treated non-whites. This is perhaps the deepest fear that lives in the heart of whiteness. It is not really a fear of non-white people. It's a fear of the depravity that lives in our own hearts: Are non-white people capable of doing to us the barbaric things we have done to them?

A final fear has probably always haunted white people but has become more powerful since the society has formally rejected overt racism: The fear of being seen, and seen-through, by non-white people. Virtually every white person I know, including white people fighting for racial justice and including myself, carries some level of racism in our minds and hearts and bodies. In our heads, we can pretend to eliminate it, but most of us know it is there. And because we are all supposed to be appropriately anti-racist, we carry that lingering racism with a new kind of fear: What if non-white people look at us and can see it? What if they can see through us? What if they can look past our anti-racist vocabulary and sense that we still don't really know how to treat them as equals? What if they know about us what we don't dare know about ourselves? What if they can see what we can't even voice?

I work in a large university with a stated commitment to racial justice. All of my faculty colleagues, even the most reactionary, have a stated commitment to racial justice. And yet the fear is palpable.

It is a fear I have struggled with, and I remember the first time I ever articulated that fear in public. I was on a panel with several other professors at the University of Texas discussing race and politics in the O.J. Simpson case. Next to me was an African American professor. I was talking about media; he was talking about the culture's treatment of the sexuality of black men. As we talked, I paid attention to what was happening in me as I sat next to him. I felt uneasy. I had no reason to be uncomfortable around him, but I wasn't completely comfortable. During the question-and-answer period -- I don't remember what question sparked my comment -- I turned to him and said something like, "It's important to talk about what really goes on between black and white people in this country. For instance, why am I feeling afraid of you? I know I have no reason to be afraid, but I am. Why is that?"

My reaction wasn't a crude physical fear, not some remnant of being taught that black men are dangerous (though I have had such reactions to black men on the street in certain circumstances). Instead, I think it was that fear of being seen through by non-white people, especially when we are talking about race. In that particular moment, for a white academic on an O.J. panel, my fear was of being exposed as a fraud or some kind of closet racist. Even if I thought I knew what I was talking about and was being appropriately anti-racist in my analysis, I was afraid that some lingering trace of racism would show through, and that my black colleague would identify it for all in the room to see. After I publicly recognized the fear, I think I started to let go of some of it. Like anything, it's a struggle. I can see ways in which I have made progress. I can see that in many situations I speak more freely and honestly as I let go of the fear. I make mistakes, but as I become less terrified of making mistakes I find that I can trust my instincts more and be more open to critique when my instincts are wrong.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 05:39 PM
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1. "I'm not a racist. I voted for Barack Obama"
We'll be hearing a lot of that for the next few years.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 06:04 PM
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5. I think so too
Edited on Sat Mar-22-08 06:04 PM by Catherina
but at least it's the start of a long overdue national discussion and some self-examination on all our parts.
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MaryCeleste Donating Member (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 06:47 PM
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12. I bet we will have more people saying it than actually voted for him
Tom Bradley effect is a real concern of mine. Hopefully its unwarranted
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 07:36 PM
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15. Kind of like today where EVERYONE was antiwar in the 70s
What's the Tom Bradley effect?
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MaryCeleste Donating Member (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 08:00 PM
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17. Here are some links
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bradley_effect
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oew-contreras5feb05,0,5145379.story

Its far from a certainty, but anyone who places a lot of faith in the polls these days is deluding themselves
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 08:56 PM
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19. Thank you
I don't trust polls either but I have hope in peoples' conscience and intelligence.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 05:51 PM
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2. People are full of all kinds of prejudices
Some hate/fear blacks.

Some hate/fear jews.

Some hate/fear gays.

Some hate/fear Asians.

It's always good to air these thoughts and have honest, frank discussions, as an ongoing dialogue can help move us forward.

It's also healthy for white people to acknowledge that blacks have a unique history in this country - a history of tragedy and hope, and an oppression that manifests in some ways to this day.

What's not healthy is to demonize one group of people (Hillary supporters) and pretend like they are all racists. Something I've seen far too much of on this board.

I'm sure some Hillary supporters are racist, just as I'm sure there are some Obama supporters who have uhealthy thoughts about whites or jews or Asians or gays.

But, one can't draw such overarching conclusions about individuals based on which candidate they support in this nomination process.

Whom you support in this election does not in any way, shape or form identify or define your feelings about race.

Neither side has any claim to moral superiority in this regard.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 06:36 PM
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9. Yes!
I agree with every word you've written. There are times I wish the Admin would take a stronger line on disallowing racist and sexist posts so we could concentrate on more important things but otoh we need to talk about them so it wouldn't help anymore than getting Buchanan off the air.

I move in very multiethnic circles and I've been shocked at how prejudiced too many people are.

Some hate/fear blacks. >> Some blacks hate/fear whites/jews.

Some hate/fear jews. >> Some jews hate/fear blacks/muslims.

Some hate/fear gays. >> Some gays hate/fear muslims/christians.

Some hate/fear Asians. >> Some Asians hate/fear blacks/whites.

It just goes on and on. When does it stop?

I remember my own father ranting about some young black men strolling past the house when I was growing up. We lived in an upper-class mostly White neighborhood and my father went on about how he should call the police because they were obviously up to no good.

I looked at my skin color. Remembered that my grandmother was as Black as coal. I was 10 years old but I went upstairs and wept.

My own loving father who'd forgotten his daughter was part Black on his own beloved wife's side. When Obama spoke about his grandmother, that really hit home. I don't hate all Hillary supporters or think they're racist but I can't tolerate some people's defense of racism because they think it's politically expedient and will help HRC. If anything, it's hurting her immensely because these hate cards open very old wounds that should either be left alone to heal with time or be treated. I think most Hillary supporters understand this instinctively and don't do it or condone it. You can tell because you only see the same few doing it. That speaks volumes about where most decent people stand, especially solid liberals on a forum like this who probably don't have a racist bone in their body. I try very hard not to tar all, most or even many HRC supporters with the racist brush no matter how angry or hurt I get. If I ever have, I apologize because I don't see the majority that way. Our country has come very far on race relations but it still lingers. Most of it in the form of White privilege come from living in a rich White society as examined in Jensen's book.

Non-whites are affected by it too because we live in this culture and get to take advantage of its rewards without thinking of the people our colonialist foreign policy affects. I don't believe in God Bless America anymore than I believe in God Bless China. Why can't God just bless the whole world? If we're going to bring God into this, he's the God of all mankind, not just America.

We can't eradicate people's fears overnight and the older people are, the harder it might be because we're all products of our generation but they mustn't be allowed to twist things for political expediency when most people are either past that or trying hard to.

There was a comment earlier by an HRC supporter about how people needed to go look inside Black churches to see the hate being preached there. Ruggerson, do you remember those 4 little girls burned in a Black church during the Civil Rights movement when racists were saying just that? When do comments like that get condemned inside of ignored in silent complicity? I want Hillary to lose but I don't hate her supporters. When comments like that are left standing and only condemned by Obama supporters, I don't think they make a good impression for the HRC movement for passersby. It's the same thing with bizarre mental gymnastics to pretend there's nothing wrong with calling Obama "Hussein" Obama after the media spent years painting Islam as an enemy.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 06:54 PM
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13. I think it's unfortunately the nature of this particular board
being that GD-P is exclusively about politics and whom one supports in the primary process.

There are many people here who I had not conversed with before this primary season began who only know me as a "Hillary supporter." For them, that's my defining characteristic, because they know little of who I am as a human being. All they've seen are my thoughts on a political discussion board in a heated primary. I fit a little psychological box for them, I'm a "Hillary supporter."

The same process holds true in reverse. There are people here who are complex human beings who have very multifaceted personalities and traits, but all we know of them is that they are passionate "Obama supporters."

This unfortunate psychological dynamic has helped to paralyze and divide this board and bring out the worst in many of us.

I think it would help immensely if more rational "Obama supporters" came to the defense of Hillary when she was maligned and vice versa. And when you see a "Hillary supporter" stepping out of his/her role and defending Obama, it often makes that person suddenly more of a 360 degree individual to you than a message board caricature.

It's helpful if we try to remember this is a nasty primary, but that we're all essentially on the same side of the fence. It's not all black and white (pun intended). Both Hillary and Barack have good qualities and bad qualities. And they would both make far better Presidents than McCain.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 07:50 PM
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16. I'll make a greater effort
but I'll be honest, it's hard. It's hard when you see something you'd like to call out but there are already 6 people acting hysterical about it as if the heavens had just opened up. Yesterday I saw something (ageism) and politely made a suggestion the pro-Obama OP graciously, quickly agreed with. People like you are who keep me on my toes, from sliding into hating the whole movement. I don't think it helps much that Hillary is losing so badly that they're making some terrible mistakes her supporters are obliged to defend.

You're right. It's the nature of this particular board. I guess there's no getting around that pro-Obama people are gleefully going to point out those mistake and force pro-Hillary people against the wall. I have 7 people on ignore and it's made the board bearable because I almost left last week thinking there were more productive things I could be doing with my time. I'm sure it's the same on the other side. You're a very good person. I'm glad we had this chat.

There's more fearmongering against Muslims on FOX as I type. I hope this Primary ends soon. I can't believe we waited 8 years just to turn on each other. Thanks Ruggerson.
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ithinkmyliverhurts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 05:53 PM
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3. That Volvo will go bankrupt? Or, worse yet,
Starbucks. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 05:56 PM
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4. Thanks for posting this. I hope everyone reads it.
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TragedyandHope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 06:07 PM
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6. I'm afraid we will also start hearing
how great it is now that there's no racism in America anymore since we have a black president.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 06:13 PM
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7. We will also start hearing:
You people need to quit complaining. You've got your black president. What more do you want?

Anything can be twisted to suit a rationale. Even if racism went away, we would still have to deal with the religious divide. Get rid of that and something else will crop up to instigate conflict. Human nature.


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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 06:14 PM
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8. Nailed it.
An elderly gentleman of my acquaintance responded to a pro-Obama email I sent out some time ago and expressed the fear I think a number of older whites feel.

While he repeatedly insisted, "I am NOT a racist," he vividly described his fear that the "inner city gangs" will be "emboldened" by a black president and will swarm across the country "getting back at whitey" for "perceived injustices."

I thought it was very telling. There's a definite awareness that complacent whites have profited from racial injustice against non-whites, and there is a very real fear of the tables being turned.

I did my best to convince this man that I did not believe any such thing would occur and if there were any radical, criminal elements who tried to stir up trouble, Obama would be quick to contain them. I'm rather doubtful, however, that I really got through to him; his fear was palpable.

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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 07:35 PM
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14. That't about it "fear of the tables being turned"
I don't know how we can calm those fears. For two hundred years we fed your children, combed their hair, changed your babies' diapers, loved your children like our own, put the fires out on your plantations instead of letting you burn to death inside.

An older Black friend of mine once told me he thought Blacks were the most loving people in the world not to have turned the tables long ago and "choked the living shit" out of those children.

We're no different today. We're not hateful or thirsting for revenge. When we wanted rights, we took to the streets peacefully instead of burning this country down and destroying it. When do we get credit for our love towards our fellow brothers and sisters even those who hurt us?

It's hard for me to write about this right because the TV is blasting in the background and they were going on about race in a nasty way. Jena 6 was just yesterday. When do we all get to sit at the table? I wish America would just apologize for the past injustices and say we'll work hard at not doing it again. Maybe that's the stumbling block with the apology- promising not to do it again when we know what we're still doing in far away places.
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 08:50 PM
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18. I don't know the answers.
But I think your last two sentences are as close to the truth as we're going to get for a while.

In the meantime, we have the example and inspiration of Barack Obama to help us work it all out.

:hug:

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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 06:40 PM
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10. On point. nt
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 06:41 PM
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11. the fears of this "white person"....
“There is nothing more painful for me at this stage in my life,” Jesse Jackson said several years ago, “than to walk down the street and hear footsteps and start thinking about robbery—and then look around and see somebody white and feel relieved.”
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Truthiness Inspector Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 08:56 PM
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20. Speak only for yourself, dipshit (not you, the author)
Sorry, but this guy is an idiot, and a RACIST...but I'm sure he felt all vindicated writing this. YUCK.

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Orwellian_Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:18 PM
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21. K&R n/t
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