Hillary's Bosnia lie has proven she does not have the character to be President

[ButterflyBlood]

We've had enough of a serial liar in the White House like we've had for the last 8 years, do we need another one?

[anonymous171]

1. I can't decide whether she was outright lying or just exaggerating...

Either way it's bad.

[DJ13]

2. I think I heard that sentiment with a past candidate

Oh, I got it.

People used to wonder the same thing about George Bush in 2000.

We know how that turned out............

[City Lights]

7. She did not run with her head down directly to the car.

What actually happened didn't even come close. That's a lie in my book.

[skepticscott]

10. How exactly would she be exaggerating?

She said her group came under sniper fire and they had to duck and run for cover, but all accounts and images depict a perfectly peaceful scene when she arrived in Bosnia. What do you think was the true state of things that this might be an exaggeration of? Was some little kid shooting at them with a squirt gun just for fun?

[papau]

15. Obama supporter Sinbad has little credibility when there's no other named source

[ButterflyBlood]

16. Except for VIDEO

nt

[papau]

26. Sinbad is verified by what - by whom?

[ButterflyBlood]

27. The video of Hillary arriving

With no gunfire or her running to her vehicle.

[papau]

39. the video is cut

[ButterflyBlood]

47. It shows the arrival

And it's pretty obvious from it that Hillary did not arrive having to run with her head down to avoid sniper fire.

[roguevalley]

53. poor sinbad, that will teach him to tell the truth. the video

and pictures help though. Quit picking on sinbad. he's not the liar here. Lordy.

[krkaufman]

45. "running head-down under sniper fire" steps a bit beyond exaggeration ...

... when you see there was an airstrip ceremony with Chelsea and a little girl there. A far cry from hazardous.

[pocoloco]

3. No, the vote on the IWR did that several years ago!!!

[Evergreen Emerald]

4. And Obama's outright lies are things to ignore.

you guys are so hypocritical. You want your candidate to win--why distort and lie about Clinton and ignore the lies Obama has told?

[ButterflyBlood]

5. Because he only tells the truth

Unlike your queen.

[uberblonde]

You need to get the Kool-Aid out of your ears.

You mean like when Obama says he doesn't take money from the special interests? No, he only takes money from giant law firms that are also registered lobbyists.

[roguevalley]

55. since you are not staying on topic, perhaps you can speak

to the clinton's millions from bloodsucking dictators.

[LordJFT]

8. haha, the blank lies accusation of Obama again, I love it

some of you have nothing concrete to hit obama with so you make stuff up

[Evergreen Emerald]

17. Why do you have to dehumanize Clinton to support your candidate?

Obama is not perfect. He has lied again and again (Rezko, Canada, Bhutto, Wright).

When he lies you ignore, parse, forgive, minimize.

When Clinton breaths you twist and shout "see!?" "That proves she is evil!"

[LordJFT]

43. First of all I never said anything about Clinton so I don't see how I'm dehumanizing her

I just laughed at the empty accusations of Obama's lies by some people on this board. And please point out specific lies in the cases you mentioned.

[Drachasor]

49. Except he hasn't lied about those things

Seriously, all these examples of Obama "lying" don't pan out if you actually look at the record. You have to twist his words and/or ignore the context to get a lie. It's pretty ridiculous.

[PM7nj]

51. Bhutto? What "lie" did he tell about her?

[roguevalley]

54. oh please. stay on topic or start another thread. people

who do this kind of 'oh yeah, but what about him?' stuff signal their own defeat.

[meow mix]

6. yup. K&R

:patriot:

[Debi]

9. Yep, "Whatever it takes

(no matter how much I have to lie and cheat)" Isn't really a good campaign slogan.

[40ozDonkey]

14. Even her campaign slogan was stolen from Obama.

Seriously, Yes We Will just goes to show how little imagination and intuition her campaign has. For 6 million dollars, Mark Penn can afford to rent out a room full of monkeys and typewriters in hopes of something original.

[BumRushDaShow]

11. K&R

:kick:

[pdxmom]

12. I think her whole "I've always been against NAFTA" is what does her

in, as well. If she was so against it, why did she support it while at the WH? I think it just shows that she will do whatever is politically expedient, regardless of what she believes. And that doesn't bode well for how she would govern. Don't trust her farther than I can throw her.

[mtnsnake]

13. Obamawhiners' lies prove they're not worthy to be Democrats

I guess that's why most of them aren't, but we already knew that anyway

[Debi]

31. Not worthy to be Democrats?

Are you asking that anyone who supports Obama leave the Democratic Party if he's not the nominee?

[mtnsnake]

33. It's just my little take-off on the OP

so donchya worry, I'm making an exception for you, Debi, and I'm gonna deem you worthye enough to stay in the Party for now ;)

[Debi]

40. Well, thank goodness

otherwise I just wasted 5 hours in a platform committee meeting (and 3 hours driving to/from the meeting). I'd hate to just throw that all away because I was not worthy to be in the Democratic Party.

[roguevalley]

56. bwahahahahahahaha! Not worthy to be dems. That's

rich. stay on the op or start another thread. your statement is weak and whiny.

[Cha]

18. You can just add that to

all the other Bald Faced Lies she tells on the tube and you've got yourself a pathological liar.

<snip>

ABC News Polling Unit on Clinton Pollster's Memo: 'Full of Overblown Claims'
March 20, 2008 2:05 PM

"Clinton senior strategist Mark Penn put out a polling memo today heralding a "shift to Hillary."

Peyton Craighill of the ABC News Polling Unit reports: "Mark Penn’s note is full of overblown claims based on current polling. He’s cherry picking numbers from recent polls. Much of his claim of a Clinton swing is based on the latest tracking data from Gallup in which Clinton is now ahead by 7 points. If you go back two more days Obama has a 7-point lead in a separate USA Today/Gallup poll. CBS has a new poll out today that shows a close 46-43 percent Obama-Clinton race. The CBS poll also has the match ups with McCain at 48-43 percent for Obama-McCain and 46-44 percent for Clinton-McCain. We see little indication of a shift to Clinton. Of the nine polls cited in his note, five of them are not airworthy."



http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/03/abc-news-pollin.html

[jackson_dem]

19. Yeah, as if Obama hasn't repeatedly lied

:eyes:

[anonymous171]

20. HRC supporters always think Obama is lying.

It never fails.

[mtnsnake]

21. What do you mean "think". It's been proven time & time again. Wake up will ya

[anonymous171]

24. Got any evidence for straight up lies like this one?

[mtnsnake]

25. Do your own search. I'm sick of doing all your work for you guys.

[ButterflyBlood]

28. Ha, Hillary supporters can never back up with facts

That's because they never have them. You can only lie to support Hillary. If you can't provide any evidence, I'm going to assume it doesn't exist and thus you are wrong.

[mtnsnake]

29. So I guess "Hillary is a liar" is this week's whiny-assed Obama supporters theme

Woopie do

[TwilightGardener]

36. Theme? No, it's her habit, sadly. We've come to expect it of her, actually.

[mtnsnake]

37. I doubt if Hillary has even ever told a white lie, let alone a blatant lie

They don't come any more honest than her and everyone knows it, but they just don't wanna admit it. This "lying" meme is just an invention of the Obama supporters who are probably influenced by Republicans they've reached out to.

[tabasco]

38. OK, you're not fooling me.

You're a comedy writer, aren't you?

[TwilightGardener]

41. Wow. Just...wow. Love is blind, or delusional.

[roguevalley]

58. that was either troll bait or some pencil pusher from

Hillary's campaign posing here because there's not much to do in the campaign except watch their health benefits fizzle. I hear they are bunking two to a hotel room now, money is so scarce.

[TheZug]

60. She claimed she was named after Edmund Hillary, even though

she was born six years before he climbed Mount Everest.

[ButterflyBlood]

44. It's a proven fact

nt

[Debi]

32. Ha Ha

Your candidate is a liar!
Prove it!
Look it up yourself :rofl:

Nothing like a baseless accusation.

[Drachasor]

50. I'm amused and saddened by the fact you guys always avoid backing up this "lying" claim

Heck, if you have proved it before, if you have "done the work" before, then just give us a link to that post. Is it so hard?

[roguevalley]

57. why should we? We got kicked out of the party.

Let me see, a registered dem for more than 45 years, my family has always been dems probably back to 1796 when the party started. I have never missed an election in my life and i have never voted for a republican. My uncle's best friend was Hubert Humphrey. I was a kid visiting my uncle, playing monopoly with one of his friends when his friend had to stop and take a phone call. It was the White House calling him to come back to Washington, DC ASAP because JFK needed him, as he was the leading expert in the western world on the USSR, to advise him on the Cuban Missile Crisis. It wasn't until years later when my mom was telling me how damned scared she was about that that I understood why. We got sort of a sneak peak on that one earlier than some.

Yeah, I suck as a dem.

[slinkerwink]

22. that was a huge WHOPPER about Bosnia!

[Scurrilous]

23. K & R

:thumbsup:

[williesgirl]

30. She's disgusting and an embarrassment. Haven't we had enough? Bush-lite in a skirt. rec'd

[TwilightGardener]

34. She does not have the character or integrity to be President. Unfit for office.

[malik flavors]

35. She also doesn't have the judgement, if she didn't expect her lie to be debunked eventually.

I mean, the trip was documented after all.

[mythyc]

42. Hillary proved a long time ago she doesn't have the character to POTUS

though, mind you, character has not always been the American people's first priority in picking a president.

Remember Ulysses S. Grant?



that drunk :eyes:

[tabasco]

48. US Grant was not personally corrupt and was not really a drunk.

He was taken advantage of by slick businessmen and bad advisors during his Presidency but most historians I have read believe he was not personally involved with any of the scandals that occurred during his admin. He was not a good President because he trusted the wrong peope but he is not a person to hold up as an example of bad character. In fact, he had many admirable qualities. His reputation as a drunk is very exaggerated. He was not able to handle his liquor very well. He only had to drink a little bit to get drunk. The stories of his drunkenness were exaggerated by his political opponents.

I would say that Grant's character was much higher than that of H. Clinton.

"His personality was not typical of a great general. He was a very modest man. Many thought of him as rough and crude, with a macho edge and hard personality. Those who knew him well, however, often described him as a man with a gentle and forgiving disposition. He was said to be shy and reserved.

Grant was a highly moral man who was better read and educated than most of his countrymen. While he preferred to discuss horses, he was knowledgeable in several areas. He could easily talk about military matters, farming, topography, and history."

http://www.nps.gov/history/logcabin/html/usg4.html

[backscatter712]

46. I won't vote for her for dogcatcher.

If she thinks it's OK to lie, she should have run as a Republican.

[Drachasor]

52. Eh, considering Roe v. Wade and other issues....

If she somehow magically wins the nomination, I might well vote for her for Supreme Court nominations and other reasons. I'd hate doing it, but I could give her one term for that.

That said, it's nigh impossible she'll be the nominee.

[cooolandrew]

59. The fundamental fact is if someone lie to you expecially in a official capcity it's disrespect.