The Method to Hillary's Madness

[joeprogressive]

HRC is trying to accomplish one of two things by staying in the race. Obviously, her first objective is to desperately win at all costs. She knows the math and what a long shot it is. However, she knows if she can game the system (cheat) by having delegates seated from states where her opponent wasn't even on the ballot or in a state where nobody campaigned , she may have an outside chance of winning the overall popular vote, thus the albeit weak case to influence SD's with. She also knows the longer she stays in, the MSM will continue to report stories that negatively impact Obama, regardless of how ridiculous those stories may be.

HRC's second objective fits in with objective one. By trashing Obama, she hopes to accomplish objective one but if that is not possible she actually would rather McCain win the POTUS. The longer she stays in, the more she ensures that outcome. Why would she want this to happen? Because if Obama wins she will have virtually no chance to run in 2012 against the Democratic incumbent. By 2016, her star will be falling and she will be viewed as potentially too old at 69.

HRC must be stopped before she destroys the party. Edwards or Gore could end this thing tomorrow. I urge Obama supporters to write as many SD's and urge them to honor the true will of the people. I also urge you to continue donating whatever you can to Obama.

[ruggerson]

1. She is the evil one

she is the one sent to end the world.

[billbuckhead]

2. If only Gore or Edwards would run and save us from Hillary's opponent

[joeprogressive]

4. Honestly, what do you dislike about Obama other than the fact he is beating

your candidate?

[billbuckhead]

18. Swiftboated the Clinton's on race while dog whistling sexism

Running as the post racial candidate while being the Reverend Wright candidate. Keeping a woman from being elected while having no chance at winning himself.

[joeprogressive]

19. Link? Only HRC has run a smear campaign

To suggest otherwise is to live in a fantasy world.

[Shae]

25. I guess they're having trouble finding that link

[emilyg]

23. For starters - you're right.

[bilgewaterbill]

3. Excellent analysis! K&R!

[BumRushDaShow]

5. K&R

The sad truth...

[joeprogressive]

9. The other sad truth is I will swallow my anger I feel towards HRC

and vote for her if she were to pull off the unlikely primary victory. The irony of that is the only way that will happen is through more dirty play by her campaign. Voting for her would be very difficult but I will do it to get us out of Iraq.

[BumRushDaShow]

10. I fear the only way to get out of Iraq is to bolster our majorities in the House and Senate.

The repukes in the Senate would filibuster any bill that tries to end the conflict.

There are 22 repukes up for re-election in this year's Senate race. This needs to be addressed!!

[joeprogressive]

12. I agree but I do not think we will make big gains in the congressional races

if McCain beats either Democratic candidate. I think we need the WH to end this war.

[BumRushDaShow]

14. Taking the WH will not get the bills to the President.

This is serious. The Dem party (maybe outside of Byrd and Dodd) seems clueless about the power of the filibuster. If a bill to end the conflict can't get past the Senate, then having someone in the WH is irrelevant.

We need BOTH. The WH can do nothing unless the bills make it out of Congress. This is not a dictatorship, as much as Bushco has made it seem like it is. The 50-state strategy will hopefully produce some strong contenders in some of these purple states.

[joeprogressive]

17. Hopefully we will get both. n/t

[BumRushDaShow]

21. Touche! n/t

[IsItJustMe]

31. What you just said makes no sense to me. There is no way in hell you can keep a war going without

the active support and participation of the Commander In Cheif.

[BumRushDaShow]

32. What I am saying is

in order to bring the troops home, assuming you don't believe that a Presidential Executive Order can do such unilaterally (which there is no way I can see how it could), one requires Congressional intervention. I.e., Congress would need to craft bills that would essentially cease hostilities and bring troops home, and these bills would be signed by a WILLING (albeit Democratic) President.

But having a Democratic President up there won't automatically mean that the such war-ending bills will even reach that branch unless they are passed by both houses of Congress and not blocked by endless filibusters by repukes. And if the Senate can't get 60 votes for cloture of the filibuster, then the Dems are dead in the water. So since there are still so many repuke idiots in the Senate bent on keeping the war going forever, then it's time to throw those bums out!

[ColbertWatcher]

20. YES!

While everyone is watching the circus that is the presidential races, can we really afford to forget the big picture: Congress, the Supreme Court, the district courts, etc?

Good point, BumRushDaShow! you win the internets!

[Liberal Gramma]

27. Obama has long coattails

The thousands of new Dems who registered to vote Obama will also vote Dem on the down-ticket races.
I don't expect any cross-overs for the house and senate races, but I do think there'll be a number of Republicans who will pull the lever for Obama also.

[lisa58]

6. I'm going to agree....

...because she didn't want Gore and she didn't want Kerry.

It's all about her - and her husband - and I'm tired of it. There are other people in the world that matter.

[Bigleaf]

7. We have a BINGO! Pay joeprogressive. Spot on 100%. She must be stopped soon.

[Window]

8. That's it in a nut shell.

:kick:

[southern_belle]

11. Yep. That sounds right.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

13. Something has to happen

[joeprogressive]

15. I feel helpless and angered watching this unfold.

We should never have gotten to this point.

[Rydz777]

22. Indeed, it is like a nightmare. And what I fear is that the

antagonism between the Obama supporters and Hillary supporters will not heal before November. If anyone had told me six months ago that McPain actually had a chance of winning the Presidency, I would have thought the idea insane.

[hisownpetard]

16. K&R

[MarjorieG]

24. Connections to neo-con, status quo and lobbying reasons.

The Clintons are monied, connected, with all the powerful entities we'd like to weaken. The ones that prevent accountability ot the people. They have held powerful sway to this Democratic party, that they claim as their own. They're opportunists.

I don't know how easy to run again after such a foul-up, with damage to our candidate, especially.

[Barack_America]

26. Richardson took a brave first step.

Hopefully others will follow his lead for the good of the party.

I think they will once we get a couple of more polls showing Obama bouncing back from this week's onslaught.

[LulaMay]

28. Oh dear, all of us "Mad", "Hysterical" women MUST BE STOPPED!

[joeprogressive]

30. No HRC must be stopped. If a man were doing what she is doing

I would say the same thing. You HRC supporters are becoming so transparent. Your tactics are weak and because you have no ammunition to fight for your candidate legitimately you cry sexism at every opportunity. You demean women with your actions.

[totodeinhere]

35. This is not about gender.

[Drachasor]

29. I completely disagree with the idea of a 2012 gambit -- I don't think she has that in mind at all

I've said this before, but I really think we should just take the Clintons at their word; they don't think about the next election. Staying in the race means they have a small chance of winning, so they do it. Diminishing Obama's electability in the GE means he is less likely to win the primary, so they do it. Everything that her campaign does fits within this lens, so I think we should use it. What it all boils down to is a refusal to look at the big picture, which I think we see every now and then when Hillary starts to look a bit defeated. After those incidents, she gets back in like there is just as much a chance she'll win as before -- because she closes her mind from thinking about losing or dropping out.

[UALRBSofL]

33. I find this post without merit nor credibility

When I read the sentence "she tries to trash Obama" that's all I needed to read to know that this post is a typical drudge post. Nuff said.

[joeprogressive]

34. When HRC says herself and McCain have passed the mythological

CIC threshold and Obama has a speech, she is trashing the probable Dem. nominee. Obama has not even gotten close to that type of negative campaigning.

[krkaufman]

36. Please note that the "popular vote" almost entirely reflects the primary states ...

... and selecting a nominee based on the popular vote would effectively disenfranchise all the voters in the caucus states. Even discussing such an option is a victory for Clinton campaign spin.