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futureliveshere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:26 PM
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Haunting Hillary Clinton's Dreams - Al, Jimmy & Nancy
This article in the NYT brings forth some old memories of the often shabby treatment, sharp disagreements and disgruntlements the 3 King/Queen makers have had over the past with the not-so-golden couple, the Clintons. Though I think the Clinton candidacy is now purely being driven on the media provided fuel and not because of the closeness of the race, the rest of the points are good reminders that the race is as good as over.

Some titbits and the link: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/23/opinion/23dowd.html?ref=opinion

If Jimmy Carter, Al Gore and Nancy Pelosi are the dealmakers, it won’t take Hercule Poirot to figure out who had knives out for Hillary in this “Murder on the Orient Express.”

Carter, who felt he was not treated with a lot of respect by the Clintons when they were in the White House, favors Obama.

“The Clintons will be there when they need you,” said a Carter friend.

Al Gore blames Bill Clinton’s trysts with Monica for losing him the White House. He resented sharing the vice presidency with Hillary and sharing the donors and attention with her when she ran for Senate as he ran for president.

“There’s no love between him and Hillary,” said one former Clintonista. “It was like Mitterrand with his wife and girlfriend. They were always competing for the affection of the big guy.”

Like Carter and Gore, Nancy Pelosi was appalled by Bill’s escapades with Monica. And, as The Times’s Carl Hulse wrote, the Speaker has been viewed as “putting her thumb on the scale for Mr. Obama” in recent weeks. As a leading China basher, the San Francisco pol tangled bitterly with President Clinton over his pursuit of a free-trade agreement with China, once charging him with papering over China’s horrible record on human rights. And she has been put off by the abrasive ways of some top Hillary people.


The article also provides some highlights of the week gone by and why the Repubs have more ammunition now to shoot at Obama. It also talks about the awesome staying power of the Clintons and why Obama must be having Clintonic nightmares.

But for me the last line said it all.

If Jimmy Carter, Al Gore and Nancy Pelosi are the dealmakers, the Clinton chickens may come home to roost.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:42 PM
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1. ..."the race is as good as over."
I don't think it'll be over until the very last gasp, but I hope I'm wrong.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:46 PM
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2. Pelosi has zero credibility
Her performance as Speaker has been a dismal failure. She's one of the worst Dem leaders we've had in years if not decades.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:02 PM
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3. I could agree, but the fact that she has to fight the DLC and blue dogs
as well as the republicans to try to get anything done, her lack of effectiveness is hardly surprising.

I suspect that the reason she said that impeachment was off the table was because the DLC cornered her and told her flat out that if she pushed for it they would see to it she got nothing else done. I do remember she was open to the idea BEFORE she got the speaker's seat - what could have made her change her mind?

I have been blaming her, but seeing the way the DLC has been conducting business over the past year I'm coming around to cutting her a little slack.

FUCK THE DLC
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