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CTLawGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:46 PM
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Dear Clinton supporters who won't vote for Obama in the GE..
Edited on Sat Mar-22-08 09:47 PM by darboy
say goodbye to Roe v. Wade. It's hanging on by one vote--Scalia, Thomas, Alito, Roberts are all votes to overturn. Think about women everywhere when you vote this November. Don't give them a new Republican friend to play with.

It would be sad to lose the Abortion right because you are sore about losing a primary.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:50 PM
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1. before you start lecturing them
you might wish to lecture the several Obama supporters who have told people like me not to vote for him (this is even after I have repeatedly stated I would).
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loveangelc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:53 PM
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2. what supporters have told you NOT to vote for him?
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:03 PM
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15. I've been told numerous times - more than I can count
(a) to get out of DU (although I've been here since it began); and (b) that my vote is not needed because Obama will get so many Puke/Indy votes.

You've been here, you've seen it too.

Bake
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:55 PM
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4. If someone is telling you not to vote for Obama if he is the nominee,
please do alert on that post.

They aren't a real Obama supporter if that is what they are doing.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:56 PM
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6. Don't vote for Clinton! Did that work? Vote Obama in both the nomination and the GE.
There, now you have at least one Obama supporter setting you on the right path!

And if you already voted in the primary, don't worry. Just vote Obama in the general.

Cool!
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Umbram Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 11:06 PM
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36. Some people will do whatever they are told I guess. (nt)
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:54 PM
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3. ok, bye
:hi:

seeya

I don't vote for deception


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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:56 PM
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5. So, you won't vote to prevent the overturning of Roe v Wade?
Women's rights mean that little to you?
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:59 PM
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10. I will not vote for Obama
his deception means that much to me
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:01 PM
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12. The GOP thanks you for your vote and your support.
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:04 PM
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18. I am sure they will
Reagan Democrats will be out numbered if O is the nominee

The similarities he drew to Reagan are coming true
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:57 PM
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buff2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:00 PM
Response to Reply #7
11. Just because we don't support
your Jesus,doesn't make us freepers.
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CTLawGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:04 PM
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17. I think voting to put Roe v. Wade in grave danger
just becuase your preferred candidate loses DOES make you a freeper.

Me, I would vote for Hillary if she won. I wouldn't like it, but I would do it.

Who has the "Jesus" complex now?
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:01 PM
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14. just following the Let it Sink motto
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yodermon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:59 PM
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35. Enjoy Scalia pawing your uterus.
:puke:
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 11:17 PM
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38. Look out!!!
Sniper fire!

Deception - don't vote for it.
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sueragingroz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:57 PM
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8. OR... start working on the congressional and senate elections
there's nothing wrong with wanting to hedge your bets.

And the fight should continue after 2008 and into the mid-terms in 2010...

Even if McCrazy does get the presidency, if democrats work hard enough, they can erect a firewall at least until 2012 and a new and hopefully better crop of potential democratic nominees.



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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:58 PM
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9. That's EXACTLY what I am doing; THINKING ABOUT WOMEN..........
which is WHY HRC is the ONLY LOGICAL 'CHOICE'!!!!!!!
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buff2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:01 PM
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13. AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:toast:
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:03 PM
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I won't, but it really wouldn't matter anyway. If Obama's the nom,
Edited on Sat Mar-22-08 10:04 PM by Skip Intro

that means we've told DEMCORATS in FL and MI to fuck off, and they'll remember that as they watch the Rev. Wright ads from the repuke machine. There will be no Democratic victory in November if Obama is the nom. He can't win without FL and MI, or PA for that matter.


But even that's beside the point. It wouldn't be out of "soreness" that I woudln't vote for him in Nov. It would be because all this time, I've seen through him. He is a questionable product sold to the gullible by a sustained marketing blitz. I've seen that his actions don't match is words. I've seen him change his words for poltical reasons, even admit it. I've seen him say one thing and do another. I've seen him attack Hillary with pure visciousness, and then play victim. I've seen behind the giant spinning O that has mesmerized some, and I cannot unsee it. It is not soreness, it is hs more to do with personal integrity. I cannot in good conscience pull the lever FOR someone who has been unmasked to me as a sham.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:08 PM
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22. It is incredibly said that despite everything that happened with
Bush, we might get president McCain.
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angie_love Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:14 PM
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25. great I will remember posts like this in 2012 if Hillary runs again, I will return the favor
by NEVER voting for her. Do you really want to start a war like this? Think before you do. I will copy/paste posts like this, save them for 2012 and remind "former" Obama supporters to NOT vote for Hillary to become the nominee. Trust me, we are ALOT of people.
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:20 PM
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28. Please cut and paste my post as far and wide as you can. Please.
Edited on Sat Mar-22-08 10:24 PM by Skip Intro

I'm not starting any war. I'm stating the reality as I see it. I'm sorry I won't be kneeling at the altar of Obama with you, but I won't. And I'm really not sorry.

Feel free to throw around threats, and to carry them out. Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn.


I will vote my conscience. Whether you are appreciative, angry, or vindictive at that really has little effect on me. I will say this, the Hillary-bashers here played no small role in my decision.
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angie_love Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:30 PM
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30. thanks, will do!
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:32 PM
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31. Credit me please. nt
Edited on Sat Mar-22-08 10:33 PM by Skip Intro

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FloridaJudy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 11:29 PM
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42. Nobody's asking that you kneel at the altar
Just that you make a sane choice in the voting booth. I'm not enthralled with Senator Clinton, but if she wins the nomination I'll still vote in the general election, and it sure as hell won't be for McLame. A hundred years of a pointless war and the continued dismantling of the Constitution should be scary enough to convince even the most ideologically pure of us invest in a clothespin.

I'm old enough to have cast my first ballot in 1968 election, and remember very well the McCarthy and Kennedy supporters who wouldn't stoop to vote for Humphrey, and urged me not to either. I held my nose and did so anyway, because the alternative was so appalling. I suspect that not too many years down the road my friends who boycotted that election regretted having done so.

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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 11:42 PM
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45. Knock yourself out.
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iamjoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:03 PM
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16. It Isn't Just Abortion
It may already be too late with Roberts and Aliton, although I like to think there is still hope. If this trend of putting reactionary judges in our courts continues, I fear not only for Roe Vs. Wade, but Griswold Vs. Connecticut. This was a landmark 1965 case which was one of the first, if not the first to establish that a right to privacy was implied in the Constitution. This set the precedent for Roe Vs. Wade. So, if Roe goes bye-bye because these "strict constructionists" do not believe there is a right to privacy in the Constitution, what is to stop Comstock Laws from coming back and birth control being banned?
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:05 PM
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19. Fuck all who don't vote for the eventual Democratic nominee.
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gristy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:06 PM
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20. I think you need not worry about this. The numbers just aren't there.
I just think the number of people here who "say" they won't vote for "that other Dem" should he/she win the nomination is vanishingly small. What, maybe 100 folks? And, trust me, a large fraction of those 100 certainly will vote for the Dem, and probably in no small part due to the reasons you mention. But it certainly won't be because you mentioned it in a 4-sentence OP back in March.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:07 PM
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21. You obviously haven't paid attention to the polls.
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gristy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:11 PM
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23. How does the OP's futile attempt to sway the 100 folks (my estimate) on DU
who have stated that they hold this position have something to do with "the polls"?
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:12 PM
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24. You're not using the right approach dude
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:53 PM
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33. "Dude"??? Pleez, that's so last week. nm
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:14 PM
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26. Dude your worrying about the wrong group of supporters
From everything I've ever heard on this forum over the last 3 years, it sure as hell isn't the Hillary supporters you should be concerned about.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:15 PM
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27. There are people on both sides that say they won't vote for the other.
They can all bite my shiny metal ass.
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:49 PM
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32. Shiny metal ass?
Please explain!
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 11:42 PM
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44. Futurama.
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UALRBSofL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:23 PM
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29. Of course I wont vote for Obama in the General Election
I'm voting for Clinton in the General Election.
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Omega3 Donating Member (412 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:55 PM
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34. please tell me how you know he'd appoint liberal judges looking at his record and 'votes' re;
abortion and gay rights.

he has consistently surrounded himself with homophobes and his "voting" record on abortion is shocking, voting present many times. I really wonder how he actually feels about such issues. It's not a stretch to say we have NO idea who he'd appoint to the bench given the opportunities.

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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 11:19 PM
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40. Obama has publicly said he supports "moderate" judges with rethug ("biparitsan") support
Edited on Sat Mar-22-08 11:19 PM by jackson_dem
If someone is voting on the Supreme Court Obama, who was going to vote for Roberts until his aides told him it would be too politically costly, is the last Democrat they should have been supporting...
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Omega3 Donating Member (412 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 11:22 PM
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41. exactly!!!!! but O-supporters don't seem to get this.
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 11:14 PM
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37. I'm a middle aged man whose wife is post menopausal and whose kids are grown.
Why should I worry about Roe?

Before you lecture me, I've "worried" for years about all the traditional Dem issues. But now, since I'm not an O-bot, many of you have told me my vote wasn't necessary anyway, I should just go fuck myself.

Since I make a 6 figure salary, maybe I should start voting self-interest.

Bake
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 11:18 PM
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39. If you care so much about the SC why are you voting for Barack "moderate judges" Obama?
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Aussie leftie Donating Member (430 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 11:33 PM
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43. Why aren't you asking the same question of the Obama supporters
who wont vote for Clinton in the general election
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