I heard the Gore as compromise candidate rumor again today.

[crispini]

I'd previously dismissed this as Internet wishful thinking but today I heard it from a prominent Democratic elected official. Like, from Washington. o.O

[JoFerret]

1. The trend is not toward Gore

To turn to Gore now would be unfair to Obama and Obama's supporters. And to Clinton

We have to let the process play out and the voters to make their choice. And then see where we are.

[TwilightGardener]

2. God no. We have our candidate--no need to compromise. Obama worked

his ASS off to get where he his.

[DJ13]

3. If they want to completely ruin the Democratic Party the best way .....

.......would be to toss every vote cast so far in the primaries held across the country in the trashcan and nominate someone who didnt even run.
:banghead:

[ingac70]

6. I know that's right. n/t

[crispini]

10. Unless they both worked out a compromise

:D

[JoFerret]

34. Lets count the votes

.

[ingac70]

4. Wishful thinking...

Back in the summer my cousin, who is pretty high up in the Tennessee Democratic Party, said Al was going to enter the race.

I didn't believe it, and I was right. Al ain't coming. Please don't set your hopes up.

[crispini]

actually, I'm not

I like Obama & think Hillary would be ok -- I'm just reporting the scuttlebutt, LOL

[jwirr]

5. I don't think Gore would step in if one of the candidates is ahead. nt

[crispini]

9. yeah but define 'ahead'

it looks like neither one will make thresh-hold, yes?

[jwirr]

19. At this point Obama appears to be leading in both vote and delegates.

It also appears that super delegates will decide the outcome. If either ends up with a higher count of delegates then I do not believe that Al Gore will override the votes. I have been watching conventions since 1956. I do not think there is any time that someone has stepped in. There have been times when we have not selected the candidate on the first ballot. That could happen this year but unless we come to a true deadlock I do not see anyone replacing either Obama or Hillary.

[crispini]

24. Maybe not in the modern era, but hasn't it happened before?

I confess I am not as much of a student of history as I would like to be.

What if the superdelegates split? :think: :D

[movonne]

16. I have had a feeling that Gore has been a big Obama supporter and

has had his finger in the Obama campaign...

[movonne]

17. I have had a feeling that Gore has been a big Obama supporter and

has had his finger in the Obama campaign...

[Milo_Bloom]

7. Only 1 way that would happen...

If Obama SPECIFICALLY requests it and offers to be his running mate.

It ain't gonna happen.

[wildeyed]

38. Good point.

It could fly if one or both candidates agreed, but otherwise, this is crazy talk.

Besides, Al Gore doesn't want the nomination. That door opened for him early in this cycle and he didn't step through.

[crispini]

41. Yep, I'd agree with the first bit.

WRT the second bit, this has been a weird year.

[Hutzpa]

8. waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

:rofl:

[crispini]

13. hee

worth nothing, I know.

But I've decided I'm going to get to Denver any way I can.

[Hutzpa]

28. Even if you did not

participate or render any help whatsoever, the black guy work for the white guy right?
mental slavery, because Obama is not fit to be President of the United States of America,
how there he a poor black mixed race boy stand in the way of a strong big white guy....
:wow: he is the guy to come save the day because Hillary has damage Obama, where was
Al Gore? why didn't he used his elder statesmanship and stepped in to stop the Clinton
mess.


Give it to Al Gore who have not spend a cent in this election, frankly, I think this
is another Republican ploy, mess with Democrats heads and lets see how they're
thinking....good job so-called wanna be Democrats.....:wtf:

[KaryninMiami]

11. I'd be thrilled if this happens as long as Obama is the VP- plus--

Obama would have to really make it clear that this is something he is happy about - otherwise, there's a huge risk of losing the momentum and excitement, along with the millions of new and cross-over voters. I was hoping for an Edwards- Obama ticket but then Edwards pulled out. A Gore- Obama ticket would be thrilling- but would have to be handled very carefully. Also, Clinton would have to be given a major role in the administration as well since her supporters will be deeply disappointed (and extremely upset).

I saw the links from the previous thread and am aware there's a bit of a buzz in the blog world-- but it sounds like your source is pretty credible. Can you share a bit more about who this elected official might be?

[crispini]

22. Check

your PM. ;)

I agree with you WRT to Obama, by the way, I think at this point in terms of energy he is clearly the frontrunner.

It's been a weird year. It could get weirder.

[NoBushSpokenHere]

27. Oh can you PM me too? Curious here about the possibility nt

[myrna minx]

12. The lion share of caucuses and primaries are over. How would this happen?

I can't imagine President Gore accepting the VP position again on an Obama ticket, and from what I understand, there is bad blood with the Gore/Clinton camps/ In addition, everything I have read indicates that he's not interested in running again anyway. Don't get me wrong, I would have loved it if he ran from the beginning, but procedurally, it doesn't seem possible. Unless he accepts the VP role, which I think is unlikely, would we toss out all of the votes cast so far?

[crispini]

14. on the second ballot at the convention

At least 1 if not both candidates would have to agree. It's actually happened before.

[myrna minx]

15. Sorry I was in the middle of an edit, when you posted.

I didn't know that that has happened before. Interesting. Food for thought.

[crispini]

20. Oh, there is definitely bad blood between

Clinton / Gore.

I would think it would go like this:

Clinton hanging on and totally beating Obama down. Obama not getting enough supers. Clinton not getting enough supers. OR, the supers themselves splitting. Obama would have to endorse Gore, and I would think it would be a Gore / Obama ticket.

Wild wild idea -- but it has been a wild wild year.

[myrna minx]

23. You know what? Anything's possible in this dadaist primary.

:hi:

[crispini]

25. Ain't that the trewth.

It's been one effed up year.

[Warren DeMontague]

18. Nobody wanted Al Gore to run more than me, but he clearly decided not to.

Obama is quite likely going to be the nominee, and I think people strongly aligned with the Clinton axis of the party need to start adjusting their psyches to that fact.

Beyond that, I suspect Gore supports Obama.. that's just a hunch, of course.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

21. Really? That's interesting.

I've read it in print and via a few personal emails from people who think they're in the know, but that's all so far.

I'm leaning toward staying open to anything at this point. This has been anything but an ordinary election cycle that's for sure.

Read up thread where you've set your sights on Denver. Best of luck to you and that's the spirit! I'm working my butt off to at the least make it to Austin. I feel as if I'm running for a local political office with the number of hands I've had to shake and contacts I've been smoozing. :P

[crispini]

26. Well, even rumors from elected officials...

are still rumors. I'm taking it with a healthy dose of salt, myself. This was just he first I've heard of it outside the interwebs.

What SD are you from? 16th here! We are going to have a lot of fun. I hope I may have friends on Nom and can make it via at-large, if no other way, but that's definitely plan B.

and if I can't go as a delegate, I can just GO to hang out, LOL.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

31. I'm from SD 24

We only send a total of 3 (and 3 Alts) to the big show in Denver. I know my chances of getting past state are nearly impossible. My whole county only sends 7 (I think that's right) to the state round which includes our County Chair's slot. If I can get past county I'm going to be doing pretty good this time around, but there are some other very good people who also deserve a slot. So, we'll just have to see.

I hope to see you in Austin! :hi:

[crispini]

32. Eh, we have 4 dels and 1 alternate.

Still, it's worth a shot! :D

Hope to see you in Austin too! We'll have other fun things to vote on too! Like, TDP chair! :D

[Lone_Star_Dem]

33. Hmm, I brain locked.

It would appear that my fingers were still in precinct mode. We have 3 delegates and 1 alternate that advance. I knew that, but my brain forgot to remind my fingers when they were typing. I hate it when that happens. :P

I have one more county Democrats meeting in which to attempt to convince my fellow Dems I'm one of the right ones to support our candidate in Austin before the big vote on the 29th. If all goes well I hope to be meeting you in person on June 6th! :D

[crispini]

35. Indeed! Good luck!

Two years ago I had the good fortune to meet several DU'ers. That was fun! :D

[ekwhite]

29. It could be possible in a brokered convention

If neither Obama nor Clinton won on the first ballot, the pledged delegates would be free to vote for whomever they wished. Gore could step in as a compromise candidate. I don't believe Gore would do this, unless it was necessary to save the party. I see this as more of a threat to Clinton - i.e. 'If you don't withdraw and force a brokered convention, we will nominate Gore as a compromise candidate.'

[crispini]

30. Ooo. Nice threat.

You know the Clintons are none too fond of Big Al.... and vice versa.

[cornermouse]

36. At this point in time, it would come as a relief.

[Vinca]

37. If Gore was in Obama's place, would Hillary come to her senses

and get out or would she continue to bash the hell out of him and ruin our chances in November?

[cornermouse]

39. And the reality or relevance in this would be??????

Found nowhere.

[GarbagemanLB]

40. If you want to hurt our chances by decreasing the black and youth vote by putting up Gore, go ahead.

[crispini]

42. As one poster said above...

Only 1 way that would happen...
Posted by Milo_Bloom

If Obama SPECIFICALLY requests it and offers to be his running mate.

I'd agree with that and think that if Obama agreed, it would preserve much of his support. You think?

[crispini]

43. Just one...

:kick: :evilgrin:

[LordJFT]

44. not gonna happen

Gore might be the party elder that helps to reunite us, but he won't be our nominee

[LibraLiz1973]

45. We should be so lucky... but we wont be

We are stuck with what is already out there.

It's a crying fucking shame.

[Whisp]

46. that would be a horrible solution.

I just can't see that happening without some outcry. Obama has already put in so much work and brought a new message to the many new voters and for Gore to usurp this could be catastrophic.

What Gore Can do is endorse Obama, better sooner than later, and take up a cabinet position of his choice, if he wants it, like Environment minister or something suitable.

[Lisa0825]

47. I was holding out for Gore for a long time, but....

if that happens, then both the Clinton supporters and the Obama supporters will feel like the nomination was stolen by the party. What I would like is for Gore to play a part in helping make peace between the divided party in preparation for the GE.

[crispini]

48. You really think? If one or both endorsed him,

and indicated they were happy with the choice? Because, yeah, I don't see it happening any other way than that without pissing people off. I don't know what kind of arm twisting it would take to pull it off, but if they split the superdelegates and it goes all the way to Denver and then fails on the first ballot, well, the situation itself is going to be kind of a vise.

Who knows, it could be complete BS. I'm just reporting the scuttlebutt. But, very well-sourced scuttlebutt. :evilgrin:

I do wish we would get this shit together BEFORE the convention, though. Not good for us otherwise. A compromise candidate at the convention would pretty much have to be handed the keys to a campaign -- otherwise, it would not be tenable at all.