Have all the Clinton Supporters seen the video of her landing in Bosnia? It is worth watching

[Johnny__Motown]

This should speak for itself, please watch all of it the last few seconds are important.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOsGo_HWP-c


EDIT... here is another one.. courtesy of Swamp Rat

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2rtBUfc6YA&feature=related

[anonymous171]

1. I've sent this to ABC like ten times from a bunch of different emails.

[Johnny__Motown]

2. I sent it to MSNBC.. lets see if anyone picks it up

[Swamp Rat]

3. Check out THIS one:

OOPS! :yoiks:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2rtBUfc6YA&feature=related

[TwilightGardener]

5. Holy fucking ouch! The superimposing of her own fraudulent words

over the video is just...cringeworthy.

[FrenchieCat]

8. That one will make an even better commercial for the GOP.....

her own voice of not greeting ceremony while the video plays the footage of the greeting ceremony compacts the time of the advertisement that McCain will run down to 30 seconds. oooh Shit! Based on her negatives, she will lose based on being a liar.......And don't have the 527 with the video of Bill waiving his finger at us at the same time, and Democrats are toast. Not to count all of the Black and the young and the Independents who will be sitting on their hands while the voting is going on.

This is not good!

[Catherina]

9. Lol! She lies as naturally as she breathes.

That was well put together!

OOPS! :yoiks:

Off to the greatest with you!

[Not the Only One]

37. yep. exactly.

Hillary lies because it works for her. No one in the media calls her on it.

[biglefthander]

50. "HILLARY LIES AGAIN"

...is no longer news. Like "Sun Rises Today" is no longer news.

The media is not a public service. It is a cabal of corporations. And as we know, the ONLY obligation a corporation has is to make money for its shareholders. This is done by improving ratings. Improving ratings is done by flogging issues like race hatred and governors nailing hookers.

One of the greatest things our new President could do is to break up the corporate monopoly on the media which has grown under Shrub the Talking Chimp.

[Johnny__Motown]

11. That is a great one, thanks... bookmarked it

[joshcryer]

33. So are you sure that video is taken *right after* they landed?

I'd be amused by the ongoing politics but it wouldn't bother my support for her. Politicians are liars.

[Swamp Rat]

54. Yes, I am sure.

;)

[sniffa]

39. Ha!

:rofl:

[FrenchieCat]

4. That's why she can't be our nominee......McCain doesn't have to even

hand that one to a 527. He can just use it as it is for a commercial!

She is totally unelectable! This isn't guilt by association, this is just her plain right out lying.

"There wasn't a greeting ceremony or anything" she said. That's not what my eyes saw!

[Catherina]

6. Lol. Too shell-shocked by all that sniper fire to watch n/t

[Speck Tater]

7. Isn't eight years of a liar in the Whitehouse enough? NT

[Catherina]

10. Make that 16 and the answer is still yes. n/t

[FrenchieCat]

12. Make sure to rec this post......

and make that video a "favorite"....you know, kind of what the hillary supporters did to the Wrights Videos.

[PseudoIntellect]

13. "He's a comedian lol"

Nice. Either a poor memory of a case of lying.

[DerekJ]

14. ....

[Eurobabe]

15. She was running from bullets, LMAO. n/t

[mikelewis]

16. The Snipers were lobbing bullets in from Azerbaijan... though brave Sir Hilary bravely braved the...

...hail of stinging bullets that fell from the sky at near gravitational speeds... she was indeed in mortal peril... perilous peril even; if I may be so bold and take such liberties with her modesty.

[krawhitham]

17. Another good one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOsGo_HWP-c

[FrenchieCat]

20. We need to get to work. Make the media take notice!

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[Johnny__Motown]

21. Isn't that almost exactly the same as the one I posted??? Maybe slightly higher quality

Not that I don't appreciate the help.

[Drunken Irishman]

18. It's obvious she was using Chelsea as a shield for the sniper fire.

[quantass]

19. This is why Hillary will never win.

[joshcryer]

36. Because of innuendo.

[Stardust]

22. Look around...notice the absence of you-know-whos...does this thread

have a magic shield or :shrug: have they just given up OR

are they finally speechless?

I, too, have a dream...:-)

[FrenchieCat]

25. They don't want to kick it, precisely because they have no answer!

[juajen]

66. Fed up with anything relating to "Obama" is more like itl.

NT

[grantcart]

23. Dukakis . . .helmet . . .tank. . . .bye . . . bye

[grantcart]

24. This works on so many different levels some quite obvious

but the comparison between her and what is happening to real men and women in Iraq with real bullets wants me to smash something.



On another level doesn't she look absolutley exhausted?

[lligrd]

26. This Can't Be Kicked Enough

What was she thinking?

[Ravy]

27. I have a question....

How do any of us know that this footage is what it claims to be?

It might be authentic, but I haven't seen any discussion. I hear Hillary describing an event, and I see a picture of her on a tarmac with no indication of whether she is coming or going that I see.

This may have been discussed already, but if so, I didn't see it. And after some of the claims by both camps that were backed up with less-than-honest evidence, I would like to see the evidence of this.

[FrenchieCat]

28. She was there once......

its the same place she is describing......with her very bad memory. She describes it all. The footage is exactly of the scenes that you are seeing.

[joshcryer]

35. Do you know what time the plane landed?

[Perry Logan]

29. You anti-Hillary people have got to get a grip. You're starting to scare the rest of us.

YouTube comment: "i don't understand the point of this vid. what did she lie about? i'm confused."

[Lerkfish]

30. LOL! catching your candidate in a baldfaced lie is "scary".

in bizarro world.

[shadowknows69]

31. Gods I wish I had the gift of willful ignorance sometimes

[joshcryer]

43. Such as posting incessant garbage in an innuendo (and lie) filled thread?

:shrug:

[JTFrog]

49. Hilary gives us the lies, we post them. Take it up with her. n/t

[Blondbostonian]

40. You scared me all the time over at JREF

You're hardly one to make comments about being a rational poster.

Hillary overimbelished for political gain and now there's video evidence that's not true.

[JTFrog]

48. LoL! I take it you've seen the crazy uncle act too. Scary shit. n/t

[joshcryer]

32. It seems her lie was about the ceremony, the question of her being in the cockpit needs verification

...or at least someone saying it didn't happen.

Wonder if that ceremony is right after she landed or a little while later after the SS cleared the area. I know they always land at night and depending on the time of the video I'm unsure.

More information needs to come out.

[joshcryer]

45. It seems actually that I took this post too seriously and should have dismissed it as more Obama...

...garbage.

[bigtree]

34. she made SEVERAL stops on that trip. This is dishonest to point to just one of them.

. . . but I really don't think you give a shit about honesty here, just another thread to call Clinton a liar. You people disgust me.

[Catherina]

59. Your spin is desperate and lame. I'll REPOST this for you.

THERE WAS ONLY ONE C17 LANDING. ONE SCHEDULED GREETING CEREMONY PER HER SCHEDULE AND IT WENT OFF WITHOUT A HITCH. THE SNIPER FIRE IS IN HER HEAD.

Reporter: There have been different accounts of your trip to Bosnia, and I was wondering if you could clarify. You recall ducking under sniper fire but Sinbad, in his account, who was on the trip, he says the most dangerous part was remembering where he was going to eat next.

Hillary: Sinbad's a comedian... He's a comedian.

Reporter: So do you actually recall fleeing gunfire?

Hillary: When we were flying into Bosnia we had to uh, part of the reason we were in the C-17 is because part of it is armored. I was moved up into the cockpit. Everyone else was told to sit on their bullet proof vests. We came in in an evasive maneuver. Those of you who have been on a C-17 or C-130 know that one of their great characteristics is that they can take off very quickly and they can maneuver agilely to avoid incoming fire. There was no greeting ceremony and we were basically told to run to our cars. Now that is what happened.”

Let's be clear. There was ONE C-17 landing into Bosnia. The only place that had a landing strip large enough to land was Tuzla so that invalidates any CYA lie that there were multiple C-17 landings. There were two short 15 minute trips to Camp Alicia and Camp Bedrock, per her schedule, but they were by helicopter and there were no greeting ceremonies scheduled at those camps. THE only greeting ceremony scheduled was at Tuzla, immediately upon landing and getting off the C17 so it's clear where the lie is. There's NO wiggle room on this one.

LIE

Reporter: So do you actually recall fleeing gunfire?

Hillary: When we were flying into Bosnia we had to uh, part of the reason we were in the C-17 is because part of it is armored. I was moved up into the cockpit. Everyone else was told to sit on their bullet proof vests. We came in in an evasive maneuver.

Uh huh.

FACT

AP reported that on the plane into Bosnia from Germany: "Mrs. Clinton chatted with journalists and crewmen during the 90-minute flight, wandering around the spacious plane in a black pantsuit — a contrast to the blue jeans and other road-ready clothes worn by most everybody else on the plane.

"The first lady spent quite a bit of time in the cockpit, with pilot Cheryl Beineke, one of just four female C-17 pilots in the U.S. Air Force."

http://www.kansascity.com/445/story/535119.html

"Moved into the cockpit" because the situation was so dangerous. :rofl: We can stick a fork in that one.

Here are two articles from the time.

...

According to the first lady’s personal schedule detailing the trip, just two of the more than 11,000 official pages of personal
schedules released today, this is what the day looked like:

Clinton landed at Tuzla Air Base at 8:45 a.m. on March 25, 1996. She was greeted by Bosnian officials and a seven-year-old
Bosnian girl whose name was redacted, and a 7th grade class. The girl read Clinton a poem. Clinton and her aides had a 10-minute
meeting with acting Bosnia President Ejup Ganic and his aides. There was an hour-long “notables roundtable” moderated by then-
Ambassador John Menzies followed by a 30-minute closed-door meeting with the heads of unnamed non-governmental
organizations, and a 30-minute closed door meeting with military officials.

The first lady also toured Camp Alicia, ate lunch with the troops, toured Camp Bedrock, attended the USO show where the
aforementioned Sinbad and musician Sheryl Crow (misspelled “Crowe” in the schedule) performed, followed by an hour visit at the
general’s house before it was wheel’s up at 5:45 p.m. and Clinton was on her way to Italy. The schedule doesn’t indicate Sinbad
was with Clinton at any of the meetings or events outside of the USO performance. There is no mention of security threats.

...

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2008/03/19/clintons-schedule-doesnt-settle-sinbad-dispute/?mod=googlenews_wsj

Response by G.I.'s Mixed As Hillary Clinton Visits

By MIKE O'CONNOR
Published: March 26, 1996

Hillary Rodham Clinton charmed American troops at a U.S.O. show here, but it didn't hurt that the singer Sheryl Crow and the
comedian Sinbad were also on the stage.

In her appearance at Tuzla Air Base, the First Lady told a couple of thousand of the 19,300 Americans serving in Bosnia that they
were using military power to advance United States interests and values. She said they were part of "the kind of peacekeeping
mission every American should be proud of and support."

...

At another camp, named Alicia, from where 600 soldiers in the First Squadron, Fourth Cavalry patrol the zone of separation between
the Bosnian Government and Bosnian Serb armies, many soldiers crowded in to see Mrs. Clinton and her daughter, Chelsea.

When they walked through the camp, there was an almost constant clicking and whirring as soldiers took photographs.

...

Another soldier said he thought that it was all right for Mrs. Clinton to visit, but "everyone really wants to see Sheryl Crow and
Sinbad."

Mrs. Clinton's message that American interests and moral values are at stake in Bosnia is not universally accepted among the
people she came to thank.

Some soldiers, especially those living in the worst conditions or those whose duties do not allow them to see many of the Bosnians
who benefit from their efforts, say they do not fully understand the objective here.

"I joined the Army to defend my country," said Sgt. Michael Tucker, one of the friends of Sergeant Kennedy. "There's no one
threatening America here, and we don't have a fight here."

...

Asked what he would like to tell Mrs. Clinton about his assignment, Specialist Ingersoll, of Williston, N.D., said, "I wouldn't talk to her, because I'd probably say something rude."

"Unless she can get us sent back home, there's not much she can do for us," he said, wiping rain from his face. "When she leaves,
she'll go back to her family, maybe have a drink, and relax. We can't do any of that."

Specialist Johnavan agreed: "That's right. She'll be there and we'll be here."

...

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C0DE3D61139F935A15750C0A960958260

The soldiers who were there are having a field day with this whopper!

...

Ever since Barack Obama suggested Hillary Clinton's eight years as first lady were a glorified tea party a few days back, she's
looked for an opening to strike back.

On Saturday night in Dubuque she pounced, arguing she risked her life on White House missions in the 1990s, including a hair-
raising flight into Bosnia that ended in a "corkscrew" landing and a sprint off the tarmac to dodge snipers. ...

It turns out that Clinton wasn't quite flying solo into harm's way that day.

She was, in fact, leading a goodwill entourage that included baggy-pants funnyman Sinbad, singer Sheryl Crow and Clinton's
daughter, Chelsea, then 15, according to an account of the March 1995 trip in her autobiography "Living History."

I noticed a couple of things right off the bat. First, she has the year wrong. I was an MP in the Army during that time and
happened to be assigned to 2nd Platoon, 501st MP CO which supported the 1st Armored Division in Baumholder, Germany. Her trip
couldn't have taken place in March, 1995 because we didn't go into Bosnia until December 1995. The
Dayton Peace Accords opened up the door for us to go in. Then
President Clinton came to Baumholder in December to deliver his message that he was sending us in and that we were to lose Christmas, which
is exactly what we did.

Madam Clinton and her group actually came to Baumholder on their way down range and it was in March of 1996.

Regarding her claim of "dodging sniper fire", the airbase she landed at was Eagle Base located in Tuzla Bosnia. At the time it was
the most fortified compound in the country. She flew onto the airbase in a C-17 and snipers where the least of her, or anyone elses
problems. She even took the time to give a speech (presumably after she dodged the snipers)

This transcript is from PBS and is a discusion panel debating her
image, and whether the trip helped it any. There was a clip shown on the show and here remarks are excerpted below (again, notice
the date)


ELIZABETH FARNSWORTH: First Lady Hillary Rodham Clinton got a break last week from the slings and arrows of
Whitewater and other misfortunes. She took a nine-day trip to Germany, Bosnia- Herzegovina, Italy, Turkey, and Greece with her
16-year-old daughter, Chelsea. After touring remote outposts in Bosnia, the First Lady thanked cheering U.S. soldiers in Tuzla for
providing a good example to the Bosnians.

HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON: There is no better example in the world of what a multiethnic, multiracial, multicultural team means
in the United States military. You look around at the men and women in this room, you're letting people who have hated each other,
who have killed each other know there is another way. Look to America. And that's what I thank you for. (cheers and applause)

The cheering soldiers, by the way, were ordered to be there.

http://www.mangledcat.com/archives/000511.html

And to top it all off? It's all confirmed in the newly released "First Lady Schedules" she didn't want released. The trip went without a hitch and stayed on schedule the entire time. Here's the schedule for that trip.

[JTFrog]

38. From Dodging Bullets, to Sweating Bullets.

So how will she try to deny this one while the world looks at the video footage of the greeting ceremony?

[joshcryer]

41. "We landed 3 hours earlier."

Then the calls: "LET IT SINK LET IT SINK"

[joshcryer]

42. Actually, it's "it wasn't at the landing, but the M.A.S.H camp visit hours later."

Close enough!

[JTFrog]

44. No this one isn't going to sink.

Fact Checker has some interesting facts.

Over 100 news accounts of her story and not one mention of sniper fire or threat after landing. She never mentioned it in her book. Sinbad refutes it. None of the other folks that were with her will confirm her story. CBS News footage of the arrival ceremony shows Clinton walking calmly out of the back of the C-17 military transport plane that brought her from Ramstein Air Force Base in Germany. So even if you think she sat on that plane for three hours before coming out to her greeting ceremony, she still lied about running under sniper fire.

I can't believe that the Hill supporters are actually going to start chasing their tails in circles trying to defend this. Just another opposite day in HillaryWorld.

[joshcryer]

46. Please see bigtree's post. :)

This will not get press because it's garbage and a lie, and we won't see shit about it after today.

IT WILL SINK. IT WILL SINK. :hi:

[JTFrog]

47. I'm sure that she hopes so.

But why did she say this in her book:

""Due to reports of snipers in the hills around the airstrip, we were forced to cut short an event on the tarmac with local children, though we did have time to meet them and their teachers and to learn how hard they had worked during the war to continue classes in any safe spot they could find," she wrote."

Contrast that with the recent comment:

"Questioned about it later at a news conference, Clinton said she was moved into the cockpit of the C-17 cargo plane as they were flying into Tuzla Air Base, Bosnia-Herzegovina. "Everyone else was told to sit on their bulletproof vests," she said. "And we came in, in an evasive maneuver. ... There was no greeting ceremony, and we basically were told to run to our cars. Now, that is what happened."

She lies as easily as she breathes. All the spin in the world isn't going to take away her Walter Mitty moment. I don't care if the press picks it up or not. The video will be viral and all will see her true colors. THE EMPRESS HAS NO CLOTHES.

*edit spelling

[BumRushDaShow]

51. You will hear crickets...

despite that nonsensical post trying to claim that the snipers were at the base... But that doesn't reconcile the "no greeting ceremony" lie.

[City Lights]

52. Her St. Patrick's Day presser kills me.

When confronted with Sinbad's words that directly contradicted her own, instead of backtracking knowing full well she'd been caught in a lie, or instead of saying that Sinbad wasn't with her the entire time, she dismisses him as a comedian. This video *better* make the rounds on the teevee!

The only one doing evasive maneuvers is Hillary Rodham Clinton.

[MilesColtrane]

53. "I did not have sexual relations with that woman." -Bill Clinton, 1998

"I did not have greeting ceremony relations with that girl."-Hillary Clinton, 2008

[mudesi]

55. .

[Taxmyth]

56. Freepers

An edited you tube video that shows Senator Clinton meeting with the Bosnian Prime Minister and a young child spliced with a TV program with her speaking of the memories of one of her visits to the region is hardly proof of a lie. But hey, if that's the best you have to work with have a blast.

[Catherina]

57. What a congenital LIAR. Here's a quick DISSECTION

Reporter: There have been different accounts of your trip to Bosnia, and I was wondering if you could clarify. You recall ducking under sniper fire but Sinbad, in his account, who was on the trip, he says the most dangerous part was remembering where he was going to eat next.

Hillary: Sinbad's a comedian... He's a comedian.

Reporter: So do you actually recall fleeing gunfire?

Hillary: When we were flying into Bosnia we had to uh, part of the reason we were in the C-17 is because part of it is armored. I was moved up into the cockpit. Everyone else was told to sit on their bullet proof vests. We came in in an evasive maneuver. Those of you who have been on a C-17 or C-130 know that one of their great characteristics is that they can take off very quickly and they can maneuver agilely to avoid incoming fire. There was no greeting ceremony and we were basically told to run to our cars. Now that is what happened.”

Let's be clear. There was ONE C-17 landing into Bosnia. The only place that had a landing strip large enough to land was Tuzla so that invalidates any CYA lie that there were multiple C-17 landings. There were two short 15 minute trips to Camp Alicia and Camp Bedrock, per her schedule, but they were by helicopter and there were no greeting ceremonies scheduled at those camps. THE only greeting ceremony scheduled was at Tuzla, immediately upon landing and getting off the C17 so it's clear where the lie is. There's NO wiggle room on this one.

LIE

Reporter: So do you actually recall fleeing gunfire?

Hillary: When we were flying into Bosnia we had to uh, part of the reason we were in the C-17 is because part of it is armored. I was moved up into the cockpit. Everyone else was told to sit on their bullet proof vests. We came in in an evasive maneuver.

Uh huh.

FACT

AP reported that on the plane into Bosnia from Germany: "Mrs. Clinton chatted with journalists and crewmen during the 90-minute flight, wandering around the spacious plane in a black pantsuit — a contrast to the blue jeans and other road-ready clothes worn by most everybody else on the plane.

"The first lady spent quite a bit of time in the cockpit, with pilot Cheryl Beineke, one of just four female C-17 pilots in the U.S. Air Force."

http://www.kansascity.com/445/story/535119.html

"Moved into the cockpit" because the situation was so dangerous. :rofl: We can stick a fork in that one.

Here are two articles from the time.

...

According to the first lady’s personal schedule detailing the trip, just two of the more than 11,000 official pages of personal
schedules released today, this is what the day looked like:

Clinton landed at Tuzla Air Base at 8:45 a.m. on March 25, 1996. She was greeted by Bosnian officials and a seven-year-old
Bosnian girl whose name was redacted, and a 7th grade class. The girl read Clinton a poem. Clinton and her aides had a 10-minute
meeting with acting Bosnia President Ejup Ganic and his aides. There was an hour-long “notables roundtable” moderated by then-
Ambassador John Menzies followed by a 30-minute closed-door meeting with the heads of unnamed non-governmental
organizations, and a 30-minute closed door meeting with military officials.

The first lady also toured Camp Alicia, ate lunch with the troops, toured Camp Bedrock, attended the USO show where the
aforementioned Sinbad and musician Sheryl Crow (misspelled “Crowe” in the schedule) performed, followed by an hour visit at the
general’s house before it was wheel’s up at 5:45 p.m. and Clinton was on her way to Italy. The schedule doesn’t indicate Sinbad
was with Clinton at any of the meetings or events outside of the USO performance. There is no mention of security threats.

...

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2008/03/19/clintons-schedule-doesnt-settle-sinbad-dispute/?mod=googlenews_wsj

Response by G.I.'s Mixed As Hillary Clinton Visits

By MIKE O'CONNOR
Published: March 26, 1996

Hillary Rodham Clinton charmed American troops at a U.S.O. show here, but it didn't hurt that the singer Sheryl Crow and the
comedian Sinbad were also on the stage.

In her appearance at Tuzla Air Base, the First Lady told a couple of thousand of the 19,300 Americans serving in Bosnia that they
were using military power to advance United States interests and values. She said they were part of "the kind of peacekeeping
mission every American should be proud of and support."

...

At another camp, named Alicia, from where 600 soldiers in the First Squadron, Fourth Cavalry patrol the zone of separation between
the Bosnian Government and Bosnian Serb armies, many soldiers crowded in to see Mrs. Clinton and her daughter, Chelsea.

When they walked through the camp, there was an almost constant clicking and whirring as soldiers took photographs.

...

Another soldier said he thought that it was all right for Mrs. Clinton to visit, but "everyone really wants to see Sheryl Crow and
Sinbad."

Mrs. Clinton's message that American interests and moral values are at stake in Bosnia is not universally accepted among the
people she came to thank.

Some soldiers, especially those living in the worst conditions or those whose duties do not allow them to see many of the Bosnians
who benefit from their efforts, say they do not fully understand the objective here.

"I joined the Army to defend my country," said Sgt. Michael Tucker, one of the friends of Sergeant Kennedy. "There's no one
threatening America here, and we don't have a fight here."

...

Asked what he would like to tell Mrs. Clinton about his assignment, Specialist Ingersoll, of Williston, N.D., said, "I wouldn't talk to her, because I'd probably say something rude."

"Unless she can get us sent back home, there's not much she can do for us," he said, wiping rain from his face. "When she leaves,
she'll go back to her family, maybe have a drink, and relax. We can't do any of that."

Specialist Johnavan agreed: "That's right. She'll be there and we'll be here."

...

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C0DE3D61139F935A15750C0A960958260

The soldiers who were there are having a field day with this whopper!

...

Ever since Barack Obama suggested Hillary Clinton's eight years as first lady were a glorified tea party a few days back, she's
looked for an opening to strike back.

On Saturday night in Dubuque she pounced, arguing she risked her life on White House missions in the 1990s, including a hair-
raising flight into Bosnia that ended in a "corkscrew" landing and a sprint off the tarmac to dodge snipers. ...

It turns out that Clinton wasn't quite flying solo into harm's way that day.

She was, in fact, leading a goodwill entourage that included baggy-pants funnyman Sinbad, singer Sheryl Crow and Clinton's
daughter, Chelsea, then 15, according to an account of the March 1995 trip in her autobiography "Living History."

I noticed a couple of things right off the bat. First, she has the year wrong. I was an MP in the Army during that time and
happened to be assigned to 2nd Platoon, 501st MP CO which supported the 1st Armored Division in Baumholder, Germany. Her trip
couldn't have taken place in March, 1995 because we didn't go into Bosnia until December 1995. The
Dayton Peace Accords opened up the door for us to go in. Then
President Clinton came to Baumholder in December to deliver his message that he was sending us in and that we were to lose Christmas, which
is exactly what we did.

Madam Clinton and her group actually came to Baumholder on their way down range and it was in March of 1996.

Regarding her claim of "dodging sniper fire", the airbase she landed at was Eagle Base located in Tuzla Bosnia. At the time it was
the most fortified compound in the country. She flew onto the airbase in a C-17 and snipers where the least of her, or anyone elses
problems. She even took the time to give a speech (presumably after she dodged the snipers)

This transcript is from PBS and is a discusion panel debating her
image, and whether the trip helped it any. There was a clip shown on the show and here remarks are excerpted below (again, notice
the date)


ELIZABETH FARNSWORTH: First Lady Hillary Rodham Clinton got a break last week from the slings and arrows of
Whitewater and other misfortunes. She took a nine-day trip to Germany, Bosnia- Herzegovina, Italy, Turkey, and Greece with her
16-year-old daughter, Chelsea. After touring remote outposts in Bosnia, the First Lady thanked cheering U.S. soldiers in Tuzla for
providing a good example to the Bosnians.

HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON: There is no better example in the world of what a multiethnic, multiracial, multicultural team means
in the United States military. You look around at the men and women in this room, you're letting people who have hated each other,
who have killed each other know there is another way. Look to America. And that's what I thank you for. (cheers and applause)

The cheering soldiers, by the way, were ordered to be there.

http://www.mangledcat.com/archives/000511.html

And to top it all off? It's all confirmed in the newly released "First Lady Schedules" she didn't want released. The trip went without a hitch and stayed on schedule the entire time. Here's the schedule for that trip.

[DerekJ]

61. Please make this into a thread by itself.

If you are out of threads I will be happy to post it for you.
Just give me a title.

[Catherina]

67. Done. It's right here

Hillary's Amazing Adventures in Bosnia (corraborated by First Lady schedule)

Thanks for the encouragement :hi:

[tabasco]

58. They're spinning like crazy to cover up her lies.

But it's not working.

[Exultant Democracy]

60. bwaaaaaa!!!! hahahahha way to pull a Bush.

[sniffa]

62. They're waiting for.... Hillary in Tuzla: The Tale of Bosnian Sniper Fire (TRAILER)

Directed by Mark J Penn

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=It6JN7ALF7Y&eurl=http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/3/23/95418/5038/471/482606

[doublethink]

63. This story is getting better and better ......

complete with the "Raiders of the Lost Ark" theme ..... love it! Too funny. Thanks for posting this updated version. :thumbsup:

[Johnny__Motown]

71. Nice one, gonna bookmark it too

[sniffa]

72. It was sent to me by a DUer on leave until the primaries end

I promised to post it (I did twice), but I didn't want to make it its own thread, as that would just be a flamewar in the making, and I don't want to be the one who lights the match. Feel free to pass it on, or do what you like with it though. :hi:

[Buzz Clik]

64. C17s are agile and can land and take off quickly?

I'm no expert at all on aircraft, but I'm curious about this. I lived right next to air bases for about 20 years of my life, and I've seen many C17s landing and taking off. They're like elephants with wings and they have always appeared to be moving in slow motion. Are these crafts really considered "agile", I mean to the point of dodging the kind of fire that Sen. Clinton was claiming?

[Buzz Clik]

65. No danger? Watch the video carefully -- the boom is clearly evident.

Although ... boom microphones generally are not considered dangerous in the hands of a skilled technician.

[Barack_America]

68. Well that all depends on what the meaning of "sniper fire" and "greeting ceremony" is.

I mean, there were clearly press present at the event. And we all know how ruthless they can be, especially to Hillary. I think one of them even accused Hillary of stealing Garth Brooks's jacket when she went to Bosnia. Try and tell me THAT isn't "sniper fire"! Bastards.

And I didn't see a marching band present at the airport. Can we technically call this a "greeting ceremony" without a marching band? Nope. Every greeting ceremony worth its salt MUST have a marching band. That's foreign policy 101.


Mark Penn, I just did your job for you. Is my check in the mail?

[mzmolly]

69. How many trips did she make to Bosnia?

How many times did her plane land in Bosnia?

I'm going to give her the benefit of the doubt on this, sorry.

[Johnny__Motown]

70. Well, post #57 here says there was only one.. not that I know for sure...

[Scurrilous]

73. Kick

:kick: