I really thought we had a great shot at winning the POTUS......... But now

[Fluffdaddy]

the party is so bitterly divided that I don't think either candidate can win. I never foresaw this, I thought this was our best for sure shot since Ford.(For those old enough you know what I mean :))

In 2004 this whole forum was as one behind JK, even if he was not every-ones perfect candidate. I don't see DU coming together this time.

[crispini]

1. Oh, horsepucky.

It's MARCH, I tell you, MARCH. :eyes: We have HEAPS of time.

Is your avatar meant to be ironic? Just wondering.

[Fluffdaddy]

4. No, my avatar is where my convictions lie...deal with it

[greyghost]

40. Agreed. The economy is going to continue to tank, by Nov. this

is going to be a different country. Hell, even the 29%'ers will be feeling the heat.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

2. DU isn't the real world.

[NoPasaran]

14. I'm not even sure DU is the real internet anymore

[stellanoir]

3. Well it's only late March and there are all sorts of potentially unifying or divisive events

that could transpire over the next 7 months.

In 2004 sure there was plenty of acrimony between the supporters of the various candidates.

Yet Kerry was the presumptive nominee from Iowa on so it was a really different sort of contest.

I'm still hoping for the best and feel it's throughly possible.

[cloud75]

5. I a Hillary supporter have my doubts about Obama but will vote for

him if he wins the nomination...the real problem is a few months ago several of my republican friends considered voting for Obama now they say no way. We can still win it just won't be a slam dunk who ever the nominee will be.

[Traction311]

42. I've seen that too

I too will vote for either Democrat in November, but my own girlfriend (who isn't really very into politics at all) wasn't Hiliary to win, but will vote for McCain if Obama wins the nomination. :( I'm a little worried honestly.

[Penndems]

6. ". . . the party is so bitterly divided that I don't think either candidate can win."

"I don't see DU coming together this time."

Correct on both counts.
















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[Fluffdaddy]

8. Thank you for being grounded in reality.

Sometimes the facts are not the facts we want to see.

[Little Star]

29. Yep

[against all enemies]

7. Frank Rich agrees with you in the NY Times. If Dems can't get it together

he's predicting a McCain presidency. Get out now Hillary.

[Penndems]

10. It wouldn't matter if Senator Clinton got out or stayed in

n/t

[LisaL]

15. Exactly.

By the way by denying FL the right to seat delegates, democrats have written it off right from the start.
Good luck winning GE.

[Moochy]

19. Nice Magic 8 Ball!

[Penndems]

25. Thanks!

n/t

[JoFerret]

27. A deal of damage has been done. LCTVs

.

[Penndems]

28. LCTVs?

n/t

[JoFerret]

32. Let's count the votes

.

[Penndems]

33. Got it - thanks

n/t

[Little Star]

30. Right. The repugs would start bring down Obama earlier which

would be good for them. They are going to be full frontal assault and extra time is to their advantage.

[Bensthename]

9. I think people dont want another 8 years of what we have now. Dem turn out is higher over repubes

And it should stay that way to keep McBush from winning in Nov.

We still have a long time to get organized again.

[Fluffdaddy]

11. But not if 20% of us takes our ball and go home.......read this forum L

[blogslut]

18. Well, then don't take your ball and go home

The choice is yours.

[Fluffdaddy]

22. I'm voting for the DEM candidate whoever it is..... How bout You?

[blogslut]

26. Yes, I will vote for the Democratic nominee

Whether that candidate is Clinton or Obama, I shall vote for them.

You are aware the general election is 7 months away?

[Fluffdaddy]

34. Yes I'm aware, but the signs worry me. I'm a worrywart I guess :(

[blogslut]

38. Well, then relax

So very much will happen before November. Take heart and work for our party. We will have a candidate and when that day comes, that candidate will have survived one hell of a trial by fire.

From the ashes, rises the phoenix. Never forget.

[Fresh_Start]

12. time for a compromise candidate

I don't believe either Obama or Clinton can win
but it would be best to pull the compromise candidate out at the convention...so there is less time for the GOP to get together to attack them

[Tellurian]

13. Obama has been a Royal screwup. If anyone should withdraw, it's him!

The Clintons are World Class competitors. They are the ones who can deliver a Democrat to the presidency. Obama needs to be schooled in the art of politics. If anyone has put our potential of a Democratic presidency at risk; it's him!

[leftofcool]

16. McCain is ahead and there is a reason for it

The Repukes are salivating at running against Obama. They know they can beat him on national security. Anti-war candidates typically do not win elections during war time.

[UALRBSofL]

31. Also, I'm signed up with the McCain's groups and I also get stuff from him via email

And the scuttlebut I have gotten whether it is true or not is that the RNC is looking into a VP candidate like Colin Powell or someone of his leadership as well as his ethnicity. Colin Powell is looked upon as a great leader among the GOP's and he will counter Obama's support somewhat as well. I have to keep up with what I hear from McCain and his camp as much as I can because you can't ignore your opposition. Now don't make fun of me because I said Colin Powell but just hide and watch and see what happens in a few months.

[Fluffdaddy]

37. C . Powell or C. Rice. I'm hearing the same things

I'm also on a lot of the GOP's lists an fourms. It pays to keep your enemies close

[Penndems]

41. Also signed up to get info from the McCain campaign

I'm hearing the same things, too. Word on the street is that the GOP wants either Powell (likely) or Rice (already said she didn't want it).

[Traction311]

43. Powel is (from what I understand) socially liberal

Supports gun-control, abortion, and gay-right. McCain's nominee will be to the right of him.

[Penndems]

47. I heard the same re: Powell

"McCain's nominee will be to the right of him." Any ideas on who his pick might be?

[Traction311]

49. I'm sure he has a short list of 5 or so

I think it'll be Huckabee or Romney. Then again, what do I know? At this time last year, I said Republicans will never vote for McLame in the primary, because they hate him. :)

[Penndems]

50. Around this time last year, many people had written off McCain's candidacy until primary voters

resurrected it.

Such is politics. Just about the time we think a candidate's doomed, they have a habit of becoming reinvigorated.

[GoldieAZ49]

17. not DU and not the party

if H wins the AA for the most part (55%) will not support or vote for her

if O wins over 25% of the white dems will not support or vote for him he has also lost 18% of the support from indies

Yes this historical election will put McCain in the White House


For a 'given' election the dems have clutched defeat from the jaws of victory, and have no one to blame but themselves

[Fluffdaddy]

20. Will said...............This "could be" the biggest nightmare of all time

[Traction311]

44. If we had just nominated John Edwards, we'd be well ahead in the polls...

BUT NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!:mad:

[NC_Nurse]

21. Meh. DU ain't the real world.

I'm not making any predictions. It's early yet.

It looked like we had it in the bag early with Kerry. How'd that work out?

[Traction311]

45. That's what scares the Hell out of me

Don't Repukes usually gain late in the election? McCain's already slightly ahead. If he gains as the election nears, it could be a blowout. :(

[NC_Nurse]

51. Not necessarily. I think McCain will look like chopped liver next to Obama.

Kerry just didn't have that charisma and neither does Clinton. I think a lot of Repubs
will be unenthused about this election, but they'll come out to vote against Hillary.

[Nitrogenica]

23. Like hell that's going to happen. You've lost your mind.

[polichick]

24. DU is merely a message board...

It's ridiculous how much importance posters place on it ~ if we want to make a difference, we have to get out in the real world and work for our candidates and party!

[2rth2pwr]

35. Once Hillary gets the nomination, we will all unite behind her.

[BlueJac]

36. Ignore

[emanymton]

39. Supporters Will Vote For A Democratic ...

.

candidate. This is still the primary period. Once the Democratic Party nominee is decided, the people will have a clear choice. Even members of the GOP recognize that the Democratic Party has two good candidates that will beat McCain.

The election will be won by the nominee of the Democratic Party.

.

[kennetha]

46. We do have a shot

Hillary can beat McCain IMHO. Barack will be wiped out. He'll get no more than 30-35% of the white vote. Sad but true. Look at what's happening to him in Pennsylvania. He's polling in Penn as if Penn was Mississippi. Also. with the party stiff arming Florida and Michigan, partly because of Obama's foot-dragging, we can kiss both goodbye. We're going to be wiped out in the South. If we can't carry the industrial midwest -- whcih I don't think Obama can, now, except for Illinois. And we aren't competitive in Florida, we're talking a repeat of Dukakis.

[Irishonly]

48. I Didn't Want To See This Happen

Bushco still has time to do more serious damage and I hope people will see McSame as being as disastrous as we all think he is. I keep pounding on SCOTUS, the war and how republicans screw up the economy. I also keep telling people the MSM wants to keep the democrats divided and we need to show they the are FOS. The so-called pundits are going to keep pounding on the division until they get everyone convinced. My hope is the real world is not like political message boards and bloggers and those of us passionate about politics need to watch what comes out of our mouths and keyboards. I will vote for the nominee in November. This country can't take another republican regime.

[azmouse]

52. Walk away from the computer and get some fresh air.

The economy is falling apart, the Reps have no money and despise their candidate, and Dems are angrier than hell and voting in record numbers.

We'll win in Nov.