bigdarryl
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Sun Mar-23-08 09:55 AM
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If this was any other canidate other than a DAMN Clinton this primary would be OVER |
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But because shes a Clinton the media treats her as if she can come back from the dead and the talk of you can't count the Clinton's out. With Obama winning 12 straight contest and ahead in the popular vote if this was someone like Edwards the media would be saying the race is over and the democratic party would be calling for him to exit the primary.
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Sun Mar-23-08 09:58 AM
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1. Hillary's opponent lost the crucial state of Ohio and lost again with Hispanics |
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Also lost California and even Massachussets where they saw the hope-a-dope meme before.
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Sun Mar-23-08 10:01 AM
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3. we don't NEVER talk in the primaries about you won this state i won that state |
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this is Clinton B/S spin. ITS THE DELEGATE count stupid
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Sun Mar-23-08 10:05 AM
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4. Your continued refusal to use Obama's name only reflects your immaturity. |
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Sun Mar-23-08 12:37 PM
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12. Either that or it represents a well-trained campaign operative |
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Sun Mar-23-08 07:54 PM
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24. Can't call Hillary's opponent by the name on his driver's license, it's politically incorrect! |
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Sun Mar-23-08 10:00 AM
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2. And it would still be a corrupt process |
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that left some voters out entirely, narrowed the field of choice down to almost nothing for the vast majority of voters, and made a final decision before several states ever got to vote.
This primary is tainted, regardless of the names of the final two.
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Sun Mar-23-08 10:06 AM
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5. I think it's more a matter of our being left with two candidates, neither of whom |
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Edited on Sun Mar-23-08 10:09 AM by Benhurst
can close the deal, and one of whom will have to be pushed over the 2025 goal by super delegates or the convention will be deadlocked.
The primary is not really the media's right to call, one way or the other. And party "leaders" such as Nancy Pelosi who are making up rules as they go (oh how I wish she had been half so inventive upholding the Constitution and pursuing our war criminal president) aren't helping matters either.
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Sun Mar-23-08 10:08 AM
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6. Don't you mean "God DAMN America Clinton"? |
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Tell the truth, Bid Darryl. You were never proud to be an American befor Obama Swiftboated the Clintons on Race, were you?
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Sun Mar-23-08 10:35 AM
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7. The meida whores like to keep the pot boiling. |
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Sun Mar-23-08 02:18 PM
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22. The media whores have favored Obama. n/t |
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Sun Mar-23-08 01:57 PM
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16. try thinking for yourself instead of listening to Clinton spin |
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The Clintons are not the perpetual victims of everything in the world as they would have you believe.
They have devised and executed a strategy to appeal to voters racist attitudes. It is appalling and goes against everything that a Democrat should stand for. They have destroyed their credibility and probably their legacy. The best thing they can do now is apologize and drop out of the race before they destroy the party.
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Sun Mar-23-08 01:59 PM
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17. I thought I had already ignored you - here goes... PLONK!!! |
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Edited on Sun Mar-23-08 02:01 PM by bushmeat
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Sun Mar-23-08 10:36 AM
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8. The media also know its about more than Clinton. |
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Its about the decay of an ediface of power within the Democratic Party that held sway for two decades.
It's horrible and yet it's morbidly fascinating.
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Sun Mar-23-08 12:28 PM
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9. How eloquent ... thought Obama is going to change the tone of political discourse |
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in this country ... Too bad his supporters didn't get the memo.
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Sun Mar-23-08 12:32 PM
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Hillary fans are going through their first anger stage now.
They know it's over, but can't move to supporting the candidate in first place.
Selfish?
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cubs4life
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Sun Mar-23-08 01:11 PM
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15. First anger? You're kidding, right? |
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You are correct that I am angry. Angry that a savvy politician (yes, Obama is first and foremost a POLITICIAN) whom only cares about his candidacy and not the party he supposedly represents has duped independents and republicans (with enormous help from right wing hate radio) into voting for him.
It's amazing, Obama supporters gnash their teeth about Rush and the Ohio primary while Obama actively courts republicans and encourages them to cross over in primaries and vote for him. Hypocritical?
Nah, not a chance when candidate Obama is involved.
The voter turnout here in Georgia was enormous ... poll workers were amazed, they had never given out so many Democratic ballots in years because republicans flocked to the polls in droves to vote for Obama. (In reality a vote AGAINST Clinton like Hannity, Boortz and the boys instructed them.) The sad truth is Georgia republicans will flock to the polls once again in November only to vote for John "Get off my lawn" McCain. No "reach across the aisle" miracle here, unfortunately.
Someday once rational Democrats that were caught up in the Obama frenzy will come down to Earth and recognize that they've been played ... played by a politician that knew how to game the system.
This isn't some new movement in US politics. It is the final chapter of the MSM/Republican attack machine's relentless quest to destroy Bill and Hillary Clinton.
How brilliant that they were able to use complicit Democrats themselves to put the final nail in the coffin.
Flame away ... have fun. But be ready for a lot of "I told you so" recriminations come November.
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Sun Mar-23-08 02:06 PM
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21. It seems like the Clintons don't need the MSM |
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They've managed to destroy themselves without help.
I guess that whole NAFTA, DOMA, MDCA, Welfare Reform, DLC/PNAC thing is working out OK for you though.
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Sun Mar-23-08 12:36 PM
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The vaunted Clinton Machine has kept her in this, plus her sense of entitlement that, "This is mine and how dare this uppity black man stand in my way."
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Sun Mar-23-08 02:40 PM
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Keep throwing that race card. It's only hurting your candidate.
Bake
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Sun Mar-23-08 08:44 PM
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The Clintonistas throw "uppity woman" around all the fucking time when Senator Clinton is criticized for anything. So you can do it but we can't?
GMAFB.
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Sun Mar-23-08 12:40 PM
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13. The primary might have been over, but |
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we would be stuck with a candidate (Obama) who will not win in the General Election. It's over for him now--Obama supporters have to face the facts. This Reverend Wright fiasco has ruined any chances he might have had.
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Sun Mar-23-08 12:45 PM
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14. I disagree with your premise that it's all about a Clinton |
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MSM is not counting her out. There are 10 states left. Obama is up about 120 delegates, 700,000 popular votes. By the time the primaries are over this will be much closer. Also, who knows exactly what FL/MI will do. As the counts get closer the superdelegates come in to play. The SD's are not obligated to any candidate. The momentum seems to be going with Hillary as we get closer to the end of the primaries much due to Wright issues. She has an argument she won the democrat states and Obama won Republican states which will stay republican. SD's are not obligated to back Obama. If it's as close as we think, SD's could go with Hillary. This argument about the will of the people because you have a tiny bit more popular vote and just a few more seated delegates is not what the SD's were designed for. If that were the case SD's would not have been put into place. They would have just gone with who had the most popular votes and seated delegates. Then, this endorsement of Richardson will have very little impact for the upcoming primaries. So to say Hillary should drop out is purely out of greed and paranoia of Obama's supporters.
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Sun Mar-23-08 02:00 PM
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18. If Obama were doing as badly as Hillary he would have been pushed out. |
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Sun Mar-23-08 02:01 PM
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19. With a candidate that cannot win MAJOR Dem states??? |
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Such as Barack Obama? Ludicrous -- He is a disaster in the making. The contest should certainly continue.
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Sun Mar-23-08 02:05 PM
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20. It Is Because of New Hampshire. The Media Like to Cover Their Asses. |
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Even though the contest was over weeks ago when Clinton failed to get a sizeable lead in Texas (and actually losing delegates!), the media was afraid to stick a fork in the toast that is the Clinton campaign.
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Sun Mar-23-08 09:07 PM
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26. 100% absolutely correct. The media hates her. Bullshit! |
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Sun Mar-23-08 09:15 PM
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27. If is was a 46 year old, inexperienced white man |
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it would have been over too.
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