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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 11:13 AM
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US Elections are a farce, designed for the rich and powerful to win - no-one else.
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Look at what is happening now

The Republicans(PNACers) have their quasi-delegate selected.

The Democrats are fighting among EACH OTHER

PNACers will decide who they want to win, and scrounge up dirt on who they want to lose.

Democrats do not have a "left" candidate in the running

Slightly left of Bush and Gang, but very much in the "right" quadrant.

And campaigning for almost A WHOLE YEAR?

Well, not much wonder the war gang keeps winning

People are so fed up they either don't vote,

Or vote AGAINST the candidate they preferred

PNAC Gang wins again

And look at the millions spent just on campaigning

The homeless are aghast

I really don't expect much better from the USA even if Barack Obama does win -

But get him in there anyways

And surprise me!
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 11:27 AM
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1. Thank-you and thank-you to those Canadians who burned the White House
Edited on Sun Mar-23-08 11:30 AM by HereSince1628
back during the War of 1812.

We really appreciate your insightful contributions to our politics.

They've made a huge difference to our nation, by for example helping give us the conflict that pushed us into accepting a esoteric drinking tune as our national anthem.

We hope all Candadians' contributions to our politics will continue to be so dead on useful.

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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 11:44 AM
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2. "Canada" didn't exist as a country in 1812 - the British burnt your white house.
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And many of our native people kept the US forces out, they would have been the real "Canadians"

And never mind whether or not my thoughts are "insightful" although I do detect some sarcasm in your response.

What the USA does, through its voters, affect me directly.

So I'll share my thoughts where I feel like it.

If I can change ONE mind,

I've done something.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 11:47 AM
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3. Insulting our process is quite likely to change ONE mind
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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 12:19 PM
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5. Criticizing and insulting are not synonymous.
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And your electoral system DOES suck.

If you wish to denigrate my observations of the USA's political system and possibly change my views,

offer some input.

I read a lot - I have nobody on ignore, and mostly do not respond to those that irritate me.

But shame on me, I have learned things in over 5 decades that I think are worth sharing,

And by no stretch of the imagination do I expect all to agree with me.

But share I will,

for those who listen.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 12:39 PM
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7. It's simply a matter of propriety. Insults aren't criticism.
Edited on Sun Mar-23-08 12:40 PM by HereSince1628
Despite, or perhaps because of your 5 decades you choose to be impertinent and disrespectful. Telling us our electoral system sucks isn't useful criticism, it's simply an insult from the outside. It's our system not yours.

Alternative views can be helpful. Some such views may provide insights otherwise not considered. Telling us we SUCK isn't novel or insightful. We tell each other that all the time. But, then, it is our system and it is OUR struggle to change it to meet OUR expectations and desires.





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asteroid2003QQ47 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 11:58 AM
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4. Damned Canadian spin doctors
and their puff pieces about our Shining City On the Hill.
God Bless America!

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Better a cruel truth than a comfortable delusion.
--Edward Abbey
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 12:22 PM
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6. Sorry, but it's really a matter of propriety.
I'm hardly suggesting we are perfect. Simply put, it is a matter of propriety it's wrong to fuck around criticizing another nation's politics. Its as unwelcome as any comment an American would make about Canadians inability to resolve their Franco-Anglo disharmony.

My choice at present is Obama, just as the OP seems to suggest his choice would be.

Nonetheless, this is my nation, this is my party's system. As imperfect as it is, and it is imperfect, it doesn't need to be insulted with online cheapshots by someone claiming loyalties to another country.

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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 12:43 PM
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8. "it's wrong to fuck around criticizing another nation's politics" - bomb them into oblivion is OK?
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without your precious electoral system

Bombing innocents all over the globe would not be happening.

No cheap-shot

Facts.

You don't like it?

Put me on ignore

Just like many in the USA are doing to the genocide being administered by their leaders

They just ignore it,

while dozens die daily at the hands of the USAmerican War-Machine.

"it's really a matter of propriety"

YUP

y'all OWN the death and destruction of your government,

well -

if you really still think you are a democracy.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 12:47 PM
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9. Right. Like anyone here at DU did this. Take a deep breath
Edited on Sun Mar-23-08 12:56 PM by HereSince1628
Take another.

Maybe count to 100.

You are about to make some really inappropriate charges against the very people who were, are, and will be involved in trying to move the United States policy away from these things.


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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 01:08 PM
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10. 98 .. 99 .. 100 - Lots of others read, and quote DU
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And I think most of the readers here realize I don't blame DU for what the Bush Administration has done.

As for predicting what I may or may not say

That's outrageous.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 01:11 PM
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11. Well, at least you counted. That's something I've got to respect
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 01:12 PM
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12. But the Repubs say Obama is the most liberal senator in the Senate! nt
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asteroid2003QQ47 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 06:38 PM
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13. It would seem my twisted Canadian brother,...
like me, has discovered the joy
of clubbing baby seals. :toast:
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