Curious: did anyone hear a sermon about "race" relations today?

[EFerrari]

I ask because iirc, Swampy remarked that Obama's speech would be echoed in pulpits today. It is a Christian holiday, so that might mitigate the impact.

Anyone?

[Mika]

1. Wright is scheduled to speak tonite according to their website

http://viewers.streamingfaith.com/viewer/viewerframes_parent.asp?b=&p=&networkID=1058&WMP=1&WMPv=7&RPIE=1&RPNAV=0

click on the little up arrow under the player window.

[EFerrari]

3. Agradecida! Thank you.

:)

[FARAFIELD]

2. Didnt hear it today

I was actully at my wifes church (she is methodist Im catholic (mixed marriage)) and didnt hear it although it would more likely be after easter and in modearte churches.

[EFerrari]

5. Don't tell Class Warrior but I haven't stepped into a church for years.

:)

Maybe today everyone took a break. Lord knows, we could use one!

[better tomorrow]

4. all I heard was....

Jesus rose from the dead to save the world. Does the world count as race relations? I think he wanted to SAVE US ALL. Just sayin'

[EFerrari]

6. So today human unity was foremost?

I can go with that. :)

[Adelante]

18. Us all includes all races relating, no?

I don't see that the OP was referring to one race excluding others.

[EFerrari]

19. I was just asking, lol, if Obama's message was taken up.

F me!

lol

[Adelante]

26. Did you see this yesterday?

This Easter Sunday, the holiest day of the Christian calendar, many pastors will start their sermons about the Resurrection of Jesus and weave in a pointed message about racism and bigotry, and the need to rise above them.

Some pastors began to rethink their sermons on Tuesday, when Senator Barack Obama gave a speech about race, seeking to calm a furor that had erupted over explosive excerpts of sermons by his pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr.

The controversy drove the nation to the unpatrolled intersection of race and religion, and as many pastors prepared for their Easter message they said they felt compelled to talk about it. Their congregants were writing and e-mailing them: some wanted to share their emotional reactions to Mr. Obama’s speech; others asked how Mr. Wright, the minister, could utter such inflammatory things from the pulpit.

Some ministers interviewed over the last several days said they would wait until after Easter to preach on it all, because Easter and headlines do not mix. But others said there was no better moment than Easter, when sanctuaries swelled with their biggest crowds of the year, and redemption was the dominant theme.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/23/us/politics/23churches.html?_r=2&oref=slogin&oref=slogin

You're not out of your mind, not totally :pals:

[EFerrari]

28. Whew! What a relief!

:hi:

[undeterred]

7. On Easter?

Jesus died white and arose black three days later?

[EFerrari]

9. You are bad.

:spank:

lol

[undeterred]

32. Didn't we have chocolate Jesus on the cross last year?

Or Jesus Christ on a trailer hitch?

[EFerrari]

33. My grandma had one of those "his eyes follow you around the room"

portraits and it scared the hell out me as a kid.

lol

Blessed be the peacemakers, undeterred. :hug:

[GoldieAZ49]

8. no, it is not a topic in integrated Christian churches

Christ died for all of us, not just one race.

nor should it be a topic in presidential politics

[EFerrari]

10. I don't know that Christ died for all of us but was just asking

if Obama's speech was picked up today.

And, it might be a good thing if we could air out this issue that has burdened us for centuries.

[GoldieAZ49]

13. I doubt it can happen, interesting that in Brazil, the largest purchaser

of slaves has silent racism do to the mixing of the races. They never had a civil rights movement and consider the question of race to be racist itself.

[EFerrari]

16. That's a common tactic -- to demonize the conversation itself. n/t

[better tomorrow]

11. and that is the point....we should go beyond race.....

that's what Obama is sayin'....too....

[EFerrari]

12. I don't know what we "should" do. We haven't even confronted

the fact of slave ships yet.

I was just wondering what was done.

[GoldieAZ49]

14. I thought that was confronted with the civil war, and the hundreds of thousands

that died ending slavery. How come no one ever gets angry about that?

[EFerrari]

15. Okay.

How many hours did you spend in school learning about slavers?

(And, psssssssssst -- the war between the states was fought over a rebellion, not over slavery,)

And, how do you know what other people get angry over? :crazy:

[GoldieAZ49]

17. yeah, I know, the industrial revolution

and yes I did study the history of the slavers, it was a practice in Africa that spread around the world.

I hear the anger from groups that get the news medias attention. Other than that, not so much.

More over illegal immigration in this area.

That will be the tragedy discussed decades from now.

[Mika]

25. We haven't even confronted the genocide/extermination prior to slavers.

Much of it came with/by the cross.

[EFerrari]

30. More sanity from Mika.

At some point when I was a young woman, I became physically unable to wear the beautiful cross my mother had given me. Human sacrifice didn't seem to agree with me and it hasn't ever since.

:pals:

[DearAbby]

20. Being Easter Sunday

the sermons would be mostly to celebrate the resurrection of Christ. It may be left to some other date on the topic of race relations. I am an atheist, but that would be my take.

[EFerrari]

21. Thanks, DearAbby. I'm not currently a churchgoer so needed to ask.

:)

[Forkboy]

29. "I'm not currently a churchgoer ."

I want that on a t-shirt. :D

[EFerrari]

31. LOL.

Half of me is an appeaser and the other half is a graffiti ninja. We make our peace where we can find it.

:rofl:

[JerseygirlCT]

22. Nope. All focused strictly on Easter. nt

[EFerrari]

23. Thank you, JerseygirlCT.

:)

[goclark]

24. Yes, I am Methodist

and the minister handled the issue extremely well in my view.

He has visited the Chicago church several times and was supportive of the work of the church in the communiy.

Obama would have been proud of our preacher's remarks.

He acted as a uniter, even said that it seems that all three candidates had their passports tampered with ~

Most of our church is African American and it is in Los Angeles.

[EFerrari]

27. Thank you for the report, goclark.

I was hoping that it would be handled in that way. It's pretty clear where the generosity comes from.

Happy Easter.

[goclark]

34. Because of the way that the minister addressed the issue

the church members,most are for Obama I believe, followed his lead.

When he mentioned the Speech on Race, the audience did not clap at the mention of Obama's name.

I am sure the majority of them are for Obama but they listened as if they were in a college lecture and were listening to learn.

I'm sure that Sen. Obama would have been proud of the sermon today.
And, I am full of HOPE that we can continue, all over America, to have discussions about RACE. It has been a Discussion Deferred and it would be so important for America to get beyond it ~ they say that Sunday morning for Christians is the most segregated day of the week.

As an African American and a Christian I bring another perspective.
My grandmother was Baptist and I would go to church with her from the time I was in Kindergarten until I was 10 years old.

I was fascinated by the Baptist Church! Sometimes when the preacher would start raising his voice or the choir would shout out those gospel songs I would snuggle up in my grandma's lap but still peep to see what was bringing happiness to so many people.

Her church was composed of many of our neighbors. For many, it was one of the only sources of news from the outside world. Thus, the church became our NEWSWEEK and our RADIO and our NY TIMES. Many African American churches are still that way.

As we all know, the Civil Rights struggle grew out of the Black Church. In my view,if not for the Black Church and its "determined to go to jail ministers"like Dr. King and Rev.Jackson, we would still be using "Separate but Equal" bathrooms and still be on the Back of The Bus.

The minister would always preach with a build up, to inspire the members to love God, but equally as important, he inspired them to never despair ~ "Don't 'ya get weary" as the Spirituals reminded my grandmother and her church community. The church was/is our extended family. The church was our Red Cross, our homeless shelter, our HOPE and our ROCK.

I lived a while in the Midwest and attended a wealthy Episcopalian Church. Everyone was nice to me and many were my neighbors.
What was missing ~ for me it was the Community feeling and the encouragement and support to outreach ministries.

I say all that because I can understand both sides of the
current White Church/Black Church discussion.

Thank you and blessings to Sen. Obama for his eloquence,his vision,his grace under fire and the "content of his character."

[EFerrari]

35. There are sometimes very rare moments of beauty in politics.

The way Senator Obama responded to this moment, the way Dr. Wright held his peace and let it play out from what must be his deep well of strength, and now, the way your minister used the opportunity to teach.

:toast:

[goclark]

37. A teachable Moment In Time

:hug:

[ClayZ]

36. I saw this Catholic sermon, online today about "race".... must see!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ec_um8cts0


K and R

[EFerrari]

38. Thank you, ClayZ!

:hi: