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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 06:38 PM
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About a year ago Imus made racist comments about the Rutgers
women's basketball team. His compadres in the RW media fought tooth and nail for his free speech rights.
This year Obama's pastor has bits of his sermon taken out of context to vilify Obama. Why are the same people not standing up for the pastor's free speech rights?
BTW - I have had few heroes in my life. Vivian Stringer is a hero to me. What a great human.
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Mooney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 06:39 PM
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1. Because they're racist and it's a double standard.
What do I win?
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leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 06:39 PM
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2. Didn't Imus get fired?
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 06:41 PM
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7. Yep. In fact it wasn't enough for Obama that Imus got suspended.
He demanded Imus be fired. Free speech, anyone?
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 07:23 PM
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17. That is ironic since Obama himself stereotyped an entire race just last week
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 10:30 PM
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23. So, Imus should enjoy free speech but not Obama?
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 10:32 PM
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25. It wasn't even Obama speaking.......
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 10:34 PM
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26. The poster was expressing consternation because Obama
called for Imus to be fired -- because, Imus, I guess, should enjoy free speech but not Obama?
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 06:42 PM
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8. Yes
But I believe that the point of the thread is to point out the hypocrisy of RW talking heads.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 06:45 PM
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11. Here is what Obama had to say about Imus back then.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 06:39 PM
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3. It can't be race; white people tell me it's not.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 06:40 PM
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4. And Obama demanded Imus be fired.
Adding that anyone in his campaign would be fired for such a thing.
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 06:40 PM
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5. Obama demanded Imus be fired..........next
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 06:40 PM
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6. Imus is back on the air..

...and I like him. It's ridiculous that some people act like he committed murder or something. He lost his job, apologized to the Rutgers team, and now has 2 African American commentators on his show every day. They provide balance, and add alot to the show.

LONG LIVE IMUS.
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leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 06:46 PM
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12. I wish we could get him here
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 06:49 PM
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14. stream on the Internet...

Or get Dish TV. You can listen to podcasts. Bernie has been shelved, thank god. He chimes in once in a while, but is very much subdued. Tony Powell is great. Karith Foster too. How Imus handled the Reverend Wright controversy was really interesting. It's a good show - and doesn't have those "lapses" in judgment that happened in his old show.
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againes654 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 06:43 PM
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9. Vivian Stringer is an amazing woman!!
She really held her class through that whole ordeal.

Oh, didn't you know that free speech only applies to the RW, when convenient for them? I guess you didn't get the memo. :sarcasm:
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EffieBlack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 06:45 PM
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10. Because they all appeared on his show and never got up and stormed out but hope no one remembers
so they don't get called on their hypocrisy when they wring their hands and moans "why didn't he just LEAVE?!"

The same thing occurred after Bill Bennett made his racist comment claiming that aborting black babies would reduce the crime rate. He didn't even lose his job - in fact, after they defended him tooth and nail, they went right back to having him on as a guest analyst.

And let's not even talk about Ann Coulter's gigs on the MSM - funny, these people interview HER and never get exorcised enought to get up and walk out.

And Bennett, Imus and Coulter don't have a lifetime of good works and inspirational and rational commentary to offset their offensive remarks.

Double standard. Hypocrisy.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 06:48 PM
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13. Well, Obama was very un-supportive of Imus' "free speech,"
Edited on Sun Mar-23-08 06:50 PM by lizzy
in case you didn't notice. Here is what he had to say, among other things-
"And the notion that somehow it's cute or amusing, or a useful diversion, I think, is something that all of us have to recognize is just not the case. We all have First Amendment rights. And I am a constitutional lawyer and strongly believe in free speech, but as a culture, we really have to do some soul-searching to think about what kind of toxic information are we feeding our kids," he concluded."
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=3031317
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EffieBlack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 08:45 PM
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21. This wasn't about "free speech." If you don't see the difference between the two
I'm not going to waste my time trying to explain it to you since I suspect that it won't matter to you anyway.



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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 06:57 PM
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15. Vivian is also one of my sheros.
Hope you got to see her interview/story this week on Brian Gumbel's HBO show - Real Sports. Mary Cariella did the piece. It was very interesting and very moving. She has dealt with way more adversities than I realized. What an amazing woman.
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 07:22 PM
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16. Obama called for Imus to be fired
and yet spent 20 yrs with Wright and had him on his campaign staff until the media found out.

Hypocrisy.


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goletian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 07:40 PM
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18. its amazing how many people in this country are so clueless about race issues
its like the republicans citing rap music as an excuse for imus' comments.
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 07:41 PM
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19. I just shake my head reading some of this stuff
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 07:43 PM
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20. Time to put your crybaby, RW meme spewing, racist ass on ignore. nt
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 10:31 PM
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24. Who do you have to be to compare Imus to Dr. Wright?
:wtf:
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 10:29 PM
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22. Wright and Imus are apples and oranges. Neither is a free speech issue.
Obviously, both have a right to free speech. Imus, however, did not have the right to exercise that speech with any employer he chose. That employer could always fire him. There was nothing wrong with Rev. Wright wanting him fired. In fact, he probably would like to see him fired from his current job, too. That's his right, but it doesn't mean it is going to happen.

I don't believe anyone, even those who most excoriate what Wright says, have attempted to deny him his free-speech right to say it.
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