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calicat Donating Member (91 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 08:05 PM
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Obama, Wright, and Hamas
The very pastor Obama refuses to distance himself from pushed propaganda from the murderous organization Hamas in a church newsletter.


"Barack Obama's controversial pastor reprinted an article by a Hamas leader in the church's newsletter.

In an issue dated July 22, 2007, in a section titled "Pastor's Page," the church reprinted an article by Hamas official Mousa Abu Marzook in which he justifies Hamas' withholding of recognition of Israel's right to exist. The article originally appeared as an op-ed in the Los Angeles Times."

http://www.jta.org/cgi-bin/iowa/breaking/107639.html



More on Mousa Abu Marzook

"Marzook was listed as a Specially Designated Terrorist by the U.S. Treasury Department in 1995, and as a Specially Designated Global Terrorist with the aliases Dr. Musa Abu-Marzuq; Sa'id Abu-Marzuq; Abu-'Umar; Mousa Mohamed Abou Marzook; Musa Abu Marzouk; Musa Abu Marzuk, Passport 92/664 (Egypt), SSN 523-33-8386 (United States)."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mousa_Mohammed_Abu_Marzook
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RememberWellstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 08:07 PM
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1. Wasting you post
and breath, Oompas do not care if he were tied to Charlie Manson. At this point nothing matters to them but their savior.
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 07:25 PM
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28. Posting you waste
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 08:07 PM
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2. Get it through your head; whatever you put up here, Obama is not
responsible for his pastor, just as Clinton isn't responsible for hers, who is going to jail or is there, BTW.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x347731
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calicat Donating Member (91 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 08:16 PM
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6. If he's a church member, he's associated with their support of Hamas
Dangerous stuff.
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WDIM Donating Member (267 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 07:29 AM
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24. So the LA times supports Hamas!?
Edited on Tue Mar-25-08 07:30 AM by WDIM
Your logic amazes me!
So all the readers of the LA Times support Hamas.
Well thats is some scary stuff!
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Rex_Goodheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 08:46 PM
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16. If McCain had attended a Roman Catholic church for 20 years...
with the same pastor, would you conclude that he's a Catholic?

Why is it that the conclusion that Barack Obama is a James Cone Black Liberation theist not as valid?

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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 08:09 PM
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3. LET IT SINK
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seriousstan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 08:17 PM
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7. kick
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 08:43 PM
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14. kick
Edited on Mon Mar-24-08 08:44 PM by Skip Intro

love it, seriousstan
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 08:43 PM
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15. So it's ready for new life in October
McCain campaign cranking as we speak.
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elizm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 07:29 AM
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25. Sink it AND hit ignore. It's just another one popping up out of nowhere. nt
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 07:32 PM
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32. Should sink the dems very nicely come October
.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 08:12 PM
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4. Yes, be very scared of Osama..... oh did I say Osama?
Edited on Mon Mar-24-08 08:37 PM by mmonk
I meant Obama. Well I know his countrymen from Somalia would know. I'm sure this Muslim pretending to be a Christian, you know, this scarey radical racist black man, and as you say, terrorist, will make sure everybody knows his name correctly when his al Queda people take over the White House.:sarcasm:
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 08:20 PM
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8. Alerted. You're disgusting. nt
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 08:29 PM
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9. I was being sarcastic. I'm supporting Obama.
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 08:36 PM
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11. Sarcasm not allowed in GD:P
Without the visible :sarcasm: Otherwise it just goes right over our heads. :crazy:
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 08:38 PM
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12. Corrected. I thought it would be so outrageous, it would be obvious.
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 08:41 PM
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13. Well, with the crap flying around here
Sometimes it's hard to tell. :)

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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 07:26 AM
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22. Yes, I'm afraid so.
I thought people that have been here a long time would know how I feel. But madness rules now and when outrageousness is taken seriously, well, wow. I'm particular angry about themes that push the rightwing propaganda that Obama is some sort of security threat. Our society has lost its marbles and there are a lot of nutcases out there.
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muntrv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 08:13 PM
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5. While you're at it, why don't you rail on John McCain's boy, John Hagee?
You know, the one who called Catholicism a "whore" religion.
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 08:49 PM
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19. Rail on John McCain? On a Democratic Board?
What are you nuts? You want people here to go after THE BAD GUY! Shit, good luck with that one. Try posting a unity thread and see how fast it drops...
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 08:32 PM
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10. So Obama's former pastor reprinted an article from
one of the largest circulation daily newspapers in the country and that's a problem? Because it offered a position that wasn't slavishly Zionist? Really?
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 08:47 PM
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17. old news. And he already distanced himself from it so shut up.
Push your propaganda elsewhere. I suggest Freerepublic.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 08:48 PM
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 08:50 PM
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20. So is obama a terrorist? Just fucking say it then!
At least I'll know what you are.
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 08:56 PM
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21. take your fucking bullshit elsewhere.
you hill supporters are really scraping the bottom of the barrel. What's funny is that you're not bright enough to understand that this is why she's losing.
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calicat Donating Member (91 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 07:24 PM
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26. A murderous organization
He needs a lot of distance, but isn't smart enough to see that.
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WDIM Donating Member (267 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 07:28 AM
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23. Damn the Los Angeles Times!
How dare they print such an article!
Lets boycott the LA times!
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 07:25 PM
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27. Trollin' trollin' trollin'...keep them smears a rollin'
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 07:30 PM
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30. Worse than that, I'm pretty sure it's saracat's sockpuppet.
3 OPs a day aren't enough for some people, apparently.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 07:31 PM
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31. Same av, similiar name, same vapid posting style....
hmmmmmmmm
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george_maniakes Donating Member (831 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 07:29 PM
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29. how about this: are catholics supporting pedophiles by going to a church...
that refuses to recognize the church's role in that mess? Are all catholics who go to church guilty of supporting the catholics stance on abortion, gay marriage, etc,etc,etc?
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 07:35 PM
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33. Well....now you come to mention it.....
(atheist here who wishes Obama had stuck to his roots)
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