Hillary lied? Yeah, just like Barack Obama lied about....

[DemVet]

...never originally hearing anything offensive out of the mouth of his so-called "mentor" and "spiritual guide."

When he was called out on it, he finally admitted in "The Speech" that he did indeed hear offensive language from his pseudo-father, from the pulpit.

His first statements on the matter were therefore LIES.

Politicians lying....who would have thought?

[ellacott]

1. That's not what he said, most know this and I bet you do too

[ElsewheresDaughter]

23. If you believe Obama didn't lie EXPLAIN this to me please?

nytimes.com — From the New York Times, Obama disinvites Wright from participation in his coming-out for President, dated 3-6-07. From Wright's own mouth, Obama is quoted as saying the reason is concern about Wright's controversial sermons. He now must lie and deny ever hearing such, because staying in the church after hearing that sick trash is tacit approval.

“When his enemies find out that in 1984 I went to Tripoli” to visit Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi, Mr. Wright recalled, “with Farrakhan, a lot of his Jewish support will dry up quicker than a snowball in hell.” Mr. Wright added that his trip implied no endorsement of either Louis Farrakhan’s views or Qaddafi’s.

[GOTV]

60. I don't see a lie here. Where is it specifically?

[Fredda Weinberg]

2. Barry lied in Iowa about fighting nuclear discharges n/t

[ellacott]

4. Barry

[Fredda Weinberg]

9. That was what Obama called himself ... you know, in the

private school he attended in Hawaii, the one Senator Inouye call elitist.

Does it bother you?

[ellacott]

11. I know why you use it

No, it doesn't bother me. I just find it and you amusing.

[Fredda Weinberg]

20. Good, because that's the only attitude that'll get us through. I've

seen your candidate laugh at himself ... it's healthy.

[LTR]

43. Hillary called herself a Goldwater Girl

What's your point?

[krawhitham]

51. and once a rethug always a rethug

[damndude]

63. she also called herself a democrat.

seems we all grow out of our nickmanes

[wndycty]

10. Look at this hyprocritical post from the poster you are replying to. . .LOL

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5247046&mesg_id=5247113

[ellacott]

14. Yes, hypocritical

[MethuenProgressive]

13. That's back when he was Undercover?

...

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[MethuenProgressive]

19. Araxen, did you ever read a book by Obama?

Then you know "Barry" isn't racist.

[Justyce]

33. ?

:eyes:

[QC]

34. Accusations of racism: the first resort of the true Obamabeliever. n/t

[MonkeyFunk]

47. What the hell is racist about "Barry"?

Oh wait... I forgot I'm dealing with people who think "fairy tale" is racist.

[kentuck]

3. And John McCain said:

that he agreed with Osama bin Laden. Also, Bush and Petraeus agreed with him. Are they just naive? Or does John McCain believe that Iran is training al Qaeda in their country? But he has Joe Lieberman to whisper in his ear and correct him. When are you going to attack the Republicans?

[Shae]

32. Yeah

and Hagee called the Catholic church "the great whore,"
but let's not talk about that. what did Obama and Hillary do today?

[beezlebum]

he didn't lie

he said he wasn't there for those specific snippets.

not that it should have mattered since nothing in wright's speech was offensive- provocative maybe, but not offensive. he only had to "condemn" wright's sentiment because of people like you and freepers who willfully disregard the context of wright's speech.

this bigoted talking point is so fucking expired, but i guess it's all you ppl have, still, after weeks.

[phrigndumass]

5. It's time to put out the flames on that torch of yours

It does nobody any good.

[DemVet]

24. Yeah, let's all bow down at the altar of Lord Obama.

Does the Kool-Aid taste good today?

[cd3dem]

41. BO and his people need to get out of La-La land!

our country is in deep shit, and inspiration isn't going to fix it! let's hear what he has done!

[Johnny__Motown]

6. He said he was not there for the "clips" that were being broadcast on TV, you are being dishonest

the two statements are different, and both are true.

[LTR]

7. Let's be honest here...

Were you really offended by what Rev. Wright said? I mean, come on! Much of what he said, even in the most controversial extracts, is pretty spot-on with what many on DU have been saying for the past seven years.

If you were indeed offended, what was it that he said that set you off, and why?

Realistically, the only people he could have possibly offended were oversensitive right-wingers.

[guruoo]

8. K&R

[Raffi Ella]

12. "Politicians lying....who would have thought?"

*gasp* but but Obama is the Messiah!!!!If he lies it's OK,don't you knwo that!??? Hillary must be STOPPED!!11 for she is the devil!!!!11 :eyes:



thanks for psoting :)

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[GoldieAZ49]

21. and what makes it 'controversial'? The fact that it is offensive to the majority of

the American population.

He lied when he said he didn't hear it, then when he realized they would go after every sermon he did sit through he admitted he had heard them.

[MethuenProgressive]

16. The difference is she doesn't have a Noise Machine spamming the world with diversions.

Obama learned well from his pals Bob Novak and Matt Drudge.

[Tippy]

31. I am out of here...

"The difference is she doesn't have a Noise Machine spamming the world with diversions" The devil she dosen't....Try Carville for one...and I trusted James Carville .

[Buzz Clik]

18. The Knuckledragger defense: "He did it first!"

Regardless of whether you can find some politician who also was less than forthcoming with the truth, the impact of this particular lie is very important: Hillary's ability to answer the phone at 3 am is based on her claim of having more international experience. Clearly, she doesn't have as much experience or the kind of experience she claims.

[zulchzulu]

22. Mrs. 5% Chance has lied so many times, it's staggering

To allude that Obama lied about no hearing anything offensive from Wright is a LIE. Perhaps your attention span can handle a 12 minute speech.

Mrs. 5% Chance obviously lied about the Bosnia story and thought we thought she was tough...she has no clue that what she says can be refuted in seconds.

[Hepburn]

25. I can see why you support Hillary....

...you lie about things just like she does.

JMHO

[ElsewheresDaughter]

26. Please Obama folks if you believe he didn't lie about Wright sermons EXPLAIN this to me?

nytimes.com — From the New York Times, Obama disinvites Wright from participation in his coming-out for President, dated 3-6-07. From Wright's own mouth, Obama is quoted as saying the reason is concern about Wright's controversial sermons. He now must lie and deny ever hearing such, because staying in the church after hearing that sick trash is tacit approval.

“When his enemies find out that in 1984 I went to Tripoli” to visit Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi, Mr. Wright recalled, “with Farrakhan, a lot of his Jewish support will dry up quicker than a snowball in hell.” Mr. Wright added that his trip implied no endorsement of either Louis Farrakhan’s views or Qaddafi’s.

[ellacott]

28. It's been explained in this thread

and throughout the press. That Friday when he went on those programs I don't recall him saying that her never heard anything controversial from Rev. Wright.

[ingac70]

29. That trip to Tripoli...

was to negotiate the release of a captured pilot. Robert Goodman.

The only types of people that would make hay over that trip are Repukes anyhow.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Goodman

[ElsewheresDaughter]

38. are you seriously trying to use wiki as a source for facts?

hell I can edit it myself..anyone can edit anything they wish at wiki

[ingac70]

39. ...

The story is a fact. If you refuse to believe it I can't help you.
Reagan gave commendations to Jackson, Wright and Farrakhan for it.

You forget that trip was during a time where you could be arrested for going to Libya for no reason.

http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=40249

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/detail?blogid=16&entry_id=25141

[ElsewheresDaughter]

40. thank you then that was a good thing and I commend the Rev for doing it

I was under the impression that it was in resent times.

[ingac70]

55. That's what ya get watching FAUX News. n/t

[dchill]

53. Well, considering that you use Hillary "Sniperfire" Huckabee...

as a source for "facts" - Wikipedia doesn't seem all that bad.

[Tippy]

27. Are you saying Hillary just has a bad memory?

She knew this would come out....

[mrJJ]

30. All in the Family

"I want you to listen to me. I'm going to say this again," he said with a clenched jaw and stern expression that day. "I did not have sexual

relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky. I never told anybody to lie, not a single time, never. These allegations are false."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/stories/starr072998.htm

FBI to Test Dress

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/stories/starr073198.htm

[ProSense]

35. Hillary camp standards: let's prove Obama lied too! This is the most pathetic BS ever. Hillary lied!

She should be disqualified!

[cd3dem]

42. BO lied about what he knew about Pastor Hate America and lied about his relationship with Rezco!

[Hepburn]

46. LOL....

...more lies from Camp Queen Hillbot....when are you Hillary supporters going to stop this lying shit?

The billing hours are easy to prove as is church attendance. We live in an age of computers and the internet. This EXACTLY how Hillary got caught in her Bosniz lies. If you think that Obama was in church when those few offensive remarks were made, then fucking get something that documents this or STFU, OK? All of those sermons were filled and, further, as a public figure where the hell Obama was at any given time is basically and open book...so get cracking and fucking prove it if you are gonna post bullshit like this.

Please...stop this shit, OK? We need to unite to beat McCain and fucking lies to help your failed candidate? This is NOT the way to go.

JMHO

[DemVet]

48. His admission

Obama admitted during his speech that he was in attendance during some of Rev. Wrights racist, inflammatory remarks.

His sitting there for 20 years without batting an eye until he was "caught" signifies implied consent...in other words, he agreed with the pastor by not saying anything.

And no, we will not STFU. This lying and the Rev. Wright issue will not die...we won't let it. It speaks volumes into Barack Obama's character...or lack thereof in this case.

[ProSense]

50. " Rev. Wrights racist, inflammatory remarks" BS! Rev. Wright is not a racist, but

Hillary definitely lied repeatedly.

[DemVet]

57. You are wrong, the so-called "Rev" Wright IS a racist and a bigot. n/t

[UALRBSofL]

36. DemVet Obama actually lied about his not knowing about Wrights sermons.

And Clinton lied about being shot at when running from the plane to the hanger. However, I see Clinton's issue more or less a fish story going away very soon, also the fact it's being reported Axelrod passed the video to the media gives the public the idea Obama's camp is playing dirty politics topped that off with Axelrod passing the Clinton/Wright photo to the NY Times another play on dirty politics. But, the Wright issue isn't going away. Many politicians believe voters have short memories and will have forgotten this issue in a few months. But, this being an issue of identity politics and anti-american rhetoric along with anti-semitic statements, this will be an issue he can't distance himself from in this election cycle.

[cd3dem]

37. NO NO NO! BO claimed to have minor relationship with Rezco in debate!

But the media loves BO and all of his lies!

[thevoiceofreason]

44. Again, why do Hillary folks fear full quotes?

Can you not hold your attention that long? Put down an entire quote and we'll discuss. Otherwise, go back to Rush.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

45. Politicians + Lies = Water + Wet..but Hillary's whopper is laughably patthetic.

For a supposedly "experienced", "smart", "practical", politician it was really stupid.

[Moochy]

49. Don't look here look back there!

while I pastorbate on your message board.

[Mezzo]

52. Or like he LIED when he said he'd fulfill his term as US Senator...

Noooooooo they won't call that a flip flop. It was on national freakin' TV he said it.

[GalleryGod]

54. Tart Conclusions, Fellow Vet...but, you earned it.

[DearAbby]

56. Let the sheeeet sink

:thumbsdown:

[Raffi Ella]

58. yes and this lie involved his children too.

If he believes so strongly in Rev. Wrights style that he takes his children to that Church then surely!SURELY there is nothing to be ashamed about,nothing to hide or lie about.


And if there IS something there to hide away from the public -and obviously there was since they decided Wright shouldn't speak during his official Campaign announcement- then...isn't that an admission on his part?

He KNOWS it would not go over well with the public and yet...he's been taking his children there.So in essence he has shamed them with his denials(lie).

[GOTV]

59. What the public disapproves of and what's bad for kids are different things n/t

[NastyRiffraff]

61. Ah, but It's BARACK OBAMA who's lying

So it's okay. After all, Hillary Must Be Stopped At All Costs! She is The Devil!

St. Barack (Blessed Be His Holy Name) is completely in his rights to lie. His Lies are Holy Lies, to stop Evil.

[Milo_Bloom]

62. Obama made no such denial, thus, no lies.