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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:17 AM
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I must say I'm sorry to all of DU's Hillary Haters.
I know you were hoping the PBS Frontline series "Bush's War" would be renamed "It's All Hillary's Fault," and were dissapointed when you saw it wasn't. Not a single mention of Hillary? Gee guys, I'm like, wicked sorry.
:hi:
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thevoiceofreason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:18 AM
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1. It's good, don't you think. The series, I mean.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:22 AM
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3. It's a damning inside look at who took us to war.
Should be a college course or studies.
Excellent web backing by PBS too:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/bushswar/
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thevoiceofreason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:25 AM
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9. I'm with you on this one
Proudly representing the rational wing of the Obama movement.
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:46 AM
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26. This should be required viewing and I recommend it to anyone who wants
to know what led up to the Iraq invasion. It was predetermined and nothing was going to stop Bushco from going after Iraq.
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yourguide Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 07:27 AM
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37. yes, it was amazing!
Edited on Wed Mar-26-08 07:28 AM by yourguide
but just because GWB and co were hell bent on going, it doesnt mean the senator "from" NY shouldnt have had better judgement and voted against it.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 07:59 AM
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39. "Bush's War" gets highest PBS rating of 2008
www.cnn.com
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Yes We Did Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 12:47 PM
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56. I don't care who's damned war it is. It just needs to stop.
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:19 AM
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2. Doesn't she bear more responsibility for stopping the war since she enabled it?
Where is her urgency?
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:26 AM
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10. Without her vote, Bush would never have started a war with Iraq?
Bush was had the authority long before the congress voted on anything.
You're entitles to your own opinions, but not your own facts.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:22 AM
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4. I don't hate Hillary. I just think we should see other candidates. n/t
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:22 AM
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5. You and Hillary need to get a room. n/t
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rsmith6621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:24 AM
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6. Yet another stupid I Love Hill post



......GEEZ.....did they mention other Senators or Reps that voted likewise as Hillary.??????
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juajen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:35 AM
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18. Right back atcha, nailbiter!
She will win.
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Firespirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:24 AM
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7. How is this helpful?
The ONE issue I have defended her on is IWR, I think it's absolute bullshit to blame any member of Congress when that lawless sociopath was hell-bent on going to war anyway. But posts like this make me want to say, "Fuck it."
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Blue_State_Elitist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:24 AM
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8. DU is set to put out its own documentary "Hillary's War."
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:26 AM
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11. This is all you have to support your lying, racist candidate?
How sad....get well soon, OK?
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Blue_State_Elitist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:28 AM
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12. Up is down, left is right, the sun will not rise tomorrow...
and Hillary is racist.
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clevbot Donating Member (357 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:30 AM
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14. funny how Hillsupporters seem to be starting threads
hoping to get flamed...
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Blue_State_Elitist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:33 AM
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16. Are you against hope?
Edited on Tue Mar-25-08 10:35 AM by Blue_State_Elitist
;)
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clevbot Donating Member (357 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:37 AM
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19. I got hope 4 Barack!
do you?
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Blue_State_Elitist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:38 AM
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20. Never been been much of a hoper.
:(
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clevbot Donating Member (357 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:41 AM
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22. well get used to it...
I heard Obama was within 10 in Penn... if that happens... Hillary will be hopelesss...
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 08:18 AM
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67. No.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:41 AM
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23. I am against lying....
....and Hillary sure as hell does a lot of this, IMO.
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 11:01 AM
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29. And then start whining about how badly they are being treated.
Shit starting hypocrites.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:40 AM
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21. Oh, did you miss her NOT saying anything about the remarks...
...made about Richardson by her campaign?

He no longer counts cuz Hispanic votes are no longer at issue. WTF is that but racist?

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Blue_State_Elitist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 11:05 AM
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30. That's a stretch.
Edited on Tue Mar-25-08 11:06 AM by Blue_State_Elitist
I haven't heard Hillary or her campaign say anything about Richardson's race.

Richardson shouldn't be attacked because he is a hispanic politician? Okie.

*Edited to add that I really dig your avatar. Yay for terriers.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:30 AM
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13. Barack Obama is not "my candidate", Hepburn.
This is all you have to support your lying, racist candidate?
Posted by Hepburn
How sad....get well soon, OK?


Oh, no! Now the other cool kids know you didn't put me on ignore!! Now where, O! where!, will you sit at lunch?
:nopity:


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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:45 AM
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 11:53 AM
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33. n/t
:kick:
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 11:46 AM
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42. "Deleted Message" posts a lot to some threads....
... day after day.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:30 AM
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15. No, if the Clinton camp wrote it, it would be called "Damn the Sniper Fire:
How Hillary Clinton Singlehandedly Brought Down Saddam Hussein"

:hi:
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whatchamacallit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:34 AM
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17. No, she didn't create the war, she was just one of the lowly succubae who enabled and fed her master
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:43 AM
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24. Welcome to DU! Thanks for the kick!
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Ronnie Donating Member (674 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:52 AM
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27. So, I'm guessing,
that if Sen. Obama is the nominee, you're thinking you won't need any Clinton supporters' votes.
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whatchamacallit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 11:06 AM
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31. No, we need you
to wake up and smell the coffee. I have faith you'll figure it out.
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:58 AM
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28. I'm going to kick this one.
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izquierdista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 11:08 AM
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32. More like the old Shake'n'Bake commercial
Where Bush is telling all about his success in starting an unprovoked war in the Middle East and lil' Hillary pipes up "and I helped!"
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 09:30 PM
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34. Damn.
Night two, and it's still Bush's War...
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 07:27 AM
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38. Damn, I say...
Morning after, and it's STILL Bush's War.
Sorry, BamaBots!
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 08:10 AM
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65. Daymn!
:hi:
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 01:14 AM
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35. Good to see you take so much pleasure from the war. n/t
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 07:26 AM
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36. Thanks for the kick! After the way ObamaBots gleefully give Bush a pass on Iraq
..shouldn't you be scolding yourself?
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 09:48 AM
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41. Oh, you're welcome.
But I wasn't aware that Bush was running for reelection this year. Though we *do* still have 2 candidates running, the near dead and undead, who voted for Bush's War.

And that's Obamaton, thank you.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 09:40 AM
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 11:47 AM
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43. ROFLMAO!!!!!!! Very Good MP!!!!!!
:rofl:
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 12:42 PM
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53. I *am* sorry. No, really I am.
:hi:
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totodeinhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 11:50 AM
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44. I don't get my talking points from a TV show, even if it's on PBS.
I make up my own mind. Thank you very much.
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 11:50 AM
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45. I've missed it so far. What does it say about Powell's involvement?
You know, the guy that BO wants to include in his administration?
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 11:54 AM
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46. That Powell willingly lied....Powell knew it was all fabricated and went to the UN anyway
Edited on Wed Mar-26-08 11:55 AM by ElsewheresDaughter
his only demand for his lie was to make "Tenet sit behind me in camera view"
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 11:58 AM
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47. About what I'd expect
From someone who started his career lying about the My Lai massacre.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 12:50 PM
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57. Powell will claim he was used.
And that's the way PBS seemed to be framing his role.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 11:59 AM
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48. strangely, i thought the exact same thing. also didnt say kerry or edwards war
which ofcourse by the same standards it is
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 12:44 PM
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54. The PBS writers must not read GD-P
Cuz, here (and only here) Bush gets a pass so hate filled typists can dishonestly attack Hillary.
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AnarchoFreeThinker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 12:01 PM
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49. I can't hear ya. It's the snipers.We're pinned down.Send evac.Or a greeting party with children.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 12:45 PM
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55. I can't hear you over Pastor GOD DAMN AMERICA! ITS IN THE BIBLE! Wright.
Edited on Wed Mar-26-08 12:47 PM by MethuenProgressive
Golly, he's loud.
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AnarchoFreeThinker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 12:56 PM
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62. huh? rat-tat-tat-tat-tat-tat!
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genie_weenie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 12:01 PM
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50. Hillary's vote For the Authorization was actually
a vote AGAINST. Does Hillary bear any Blame for the 500,000 dead Iraqi children during her Husband's presidency?
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 12:01 PM
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51. Yep. Blame it on others for showing the truth of Hillary's lies.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 12:52 PM
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58. You're another one of those giving Bush a pass on Iraq so you can enjoy an Internet talking point?
Whatever.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 08:06 AM
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66. How anyone with any sense could blame Bush's war on one Senators vote on a bill Bush violated...
tsk tsk tsk
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 12:02 PM
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52. I see you are finding ways to deal with Bill Richardson's endorsement of Obama
I hope you can eventually find a way to move on ...
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 12:53 PM
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59. Richardson once call homosexuality a "choice" - maybe that's why Obama likes him.
Edited on Wed Mar-26-08 12:53 PM by MethuenProgressive
We'll never know.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 12:55 PM
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 12:56 PM
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63. No it's not. If you are here to help Obama
we don't need it. I'm not gay but I have a gay son and I happen to know for a fact that it's not a choice. So take your bullshit somewhere else troll...
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 01:00 PM
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64. You signature is quite true, future.
I pledged to not put anyone on ignore.
You tempt me to brake that pledge.
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BlueIdaho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 12:55 PM
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61. Let's try to focus here.
Come the general election - regardless who our candidate is - we need to keep hammering home the fact that this is a republican war pure and simple. Don't let our current in-fighting take us away from the central fact that all Americans need to know. Republicans started this war, republicans continue this war and republicans will keep us there for the next hundred years if they have their way.

Only a Democratic president and a democratic congress can end the bloodshed and focus our efforts on protecting our nation from real threats.
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CBGLuthier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 08:21 AM
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68. Couple hundred thousand dead
Tons of maimed and brain damaged people and YOU THINK IT IS SOMETHING TO MAKE A FUCKING JOKE ABOUT!.

Have you no shame?
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 08:24 AM
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69. And yet Obama supporters give Bush a pass, and try to blame Bush's War on one vote.
Edited on Fri Mar-28-08 08:24 AM by MethuenProgressive
Have you no shame? You typed your "outrage" to them in any of their nonsense threads trying to blame Bush's War on Clinton. Even the 'she enabled it with her vote is a, to use your phrase, FUCKING JOKE because Bush violated the terms of the resolution. Again, have you no shame?
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 08:26 AM
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70. apology accepted
Too bad she can't apologize for her war cheerleading.
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