God, what a smart Lady. Free advertising on all major channels

[juajen]

for ten days or more, with glorious footage of a beautiful first lady with adorable Chelsea in Bosnia, you know the war we won with Clinton at the helm, with absolutely no body bags!!!!!!!

It certainly doesn't hurt when comparisons are made of her over 80 trips abroad, beautifully representing our country, compared to Obama's visit to his grandmother's place.

Goodness gracious, what a fool she is?

You can call it a lie, but she was in a war zone, even if her memory was "faulty". While in that zone, she spent over 9 hours representing the Presidency, in many contexts.

We should be so lucky to have her as President!

[Larkspur]

1. McCain is laughing at her

and will use her Bosnia lie against her if she steals the Dem nomination.

[trained specialist]

28. I Respect McCain

[Froward69]

127. I suppose someone

has to.
I respect his bieng in a cage for 6 years... and the resulting PTSD.
I respect the retardlicans finally giving him a shot at POTUS now that he is senile. and they have no one else dumb enough to put themselves next to bushy boy.

possibly he has forgotten about being tortured and wont start bombing Vietnam. the whole 100 years in Iran, um I mean Iraq statement ruined it for me. :sarcasm: Insofar as the original post...= :puke:

[txaslftist]

138. I don't.

After he was captured he used his father's position as an Admiral to gain favorable treatment from the N Vietnamese.

Nothing respectable about it.

[juajen]

29. McCain knows her well. I doubt he will laugh at her.

NT

[anamandujano]

149. They both know they can't trash each other. They can duke it out

on the issues. The Clintons know McCain needs to be treated with kid gloves.

If Obama thinks he can treat McCain the way he did Hillary, he is in for a rude awakening.

[Window]

58. Everyone in the real world are laughing at Hillary.

[NYCGirl]

2. If you think being called a liar is good... NT

[trained specialist]

30. Ohio knows who the REAL Liar is

[NYCGirl]

39. Yep, that's why Obama is catching up to the liar and can overtake her. NT

[juajen]

32. She did not lie. She was in Bosnia; they were advised that sniper fire

was possible, and precautions were made. Some lie! Sheesh!

[kwenu]

85. She said she was running for cover. Instead she had a grand arrival ceremony. That's a lie!!!!!!

:rofl:

[snooper2]

3. You turned your stupid post from the other thread...

into a thread of it's own...good job...

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[juajen]

27. I thought so. It was time someone pointed out what was really happening.

Boy, ya'll are so predictable.

Put some iodine on those nails, guys. They could get infected.

[juajen]

38. How long did it take you to make all those smilies LOFLMAO thingies?

Ya'll are so creative. I am very impressed!

[BeyondGeography]

4. This will last 10 days...you promise?

[juajen]

37. Uh, it's already been around ten days or so. I can't remember

when it first began, and it might last another ten days. If so, I hope they show all of the other times she represented the Clinton presidency in foreign countries, and judge just how real her experience is.

It can only benefit her.

[BeyondGeography]

53. That's like saying Wright was good for Obama because now they know he's Christian

FYI: It wasn't good. Neither is this.

[juajen]

71. Well, Obama said he wan't in church when Jeremiah made

those statements. At least we know by the beautiful footage in the Bosnian war zone, that she was there. The rest is simple. She got the jaunts she was on that day mixed up. It was better to let it go, than beg the point, and, on the bright side, people everywhere got to see her doing what she and Bill are very good at; that is, connecting with people all over the globe. This acumen is badly needed in a President. Think of it people, over 80 overseas trips on our behalf in those eight years. It's really impressive, and needs to be known by everybody.

This certainly gets the news out. The Obama supporters will call it as they see it, and everyone else will see it as a good thing, even if she got her facts wrong.

I guess you could say that it was good that Obama stayed in that church pew all those years without hearing a word. You choose. Everything's relative.

[proud2BlibKansan]

5. So it's okay for her to lie because she is so beautiful

Gotcha.

[juajen]

42. Uh, no. I did say she didn't lie. Read the other replies on here,

but, I'm glad you agree that she is beautiful. Let's see, beautiful, compassionate, brilliant, and government-related and foreign-relations wise. Gee, ya think she oughta be President? Hmmmmm, what a candidate!

[Larry in KC]

119. Except that she's actually...

...not beautiful
...not compassionate
...not brilliant
...LYING about her government and foreign-policy experience

That doesn't leave much from your list of qualifications.

[dionysus]

6. she got busted for lying... are you huffing glue?

[proud2BlibKansan]

9. No - crack

[dionysus]

13. crack is whack dude

:hi:

[juajen]

49. See post #45

[dionysus]

115. oh noes!!!11!!!! she alerted on us dude!!!!!

:eyes:

[juajen]

45. Be careful. There is small line between replying to a post

and abusing the poster. Do you know the DU rules?

[DemGa]

7. Indeed -- this non-story may bode well for Hillary -- nt

[Mooney]

22. How is this a non-story?

It's probably not a campaign killer, but it makes her look like a liar. And if she's really planning on running against McCain, she might want to think twice about using "getting shot at" stories.

[juajen]

51. Thanks. Thinking people think. What a conception!

NT

[Shae]

8. God knows she needs the free stuff.

I hear she's broke. Better send that check off.

[juajen]

60. You bet she does. She doesn't have republicans donating

thousands of dollars to her campaign like Obama does. Hopefully she will survive these republican shenanigans and the rules of engagement will be changed for the better at the convention. No more manipulation of our elections by pugs and indies! Say it loud, say it strong, NO MORE MANIPULATION OF OUR ELECTIONS BY PUGS AND INDIES

[Shae]

101. Including Rush Limbaugh

working for her GOTV?

[IndependentDem]

10. you are kidding-- right?

:smoke:

[EmilyAnne]

11. Yes, its absolutely brilliant to tell lies in exchange for free advertising.

Good grief.

[Name removed]

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[Connie_Corleone]

14. I like the part where Hillary is dodging bullets...

[juajen]

77. She never said she was dodging bullets. That's a spin that was

placed on her words by others. She said "they came in under sniper fire", which meant that they wore flak jackets and were in a plane that was meant to be used under dire circumstances.

Except for veterans and entertainers for the troops, how many of you can say you were in a war zone?

[Hugabear]

97. She said that they had to run "with their heads down" - and that there was no welcome ceremony

Both of which have been proven to be untrue.

[JTFrog]

15. She will go down in history as Hyperbole Hillary.

"I say a lot of things — millions of words a day — so if I misspoke, that was just a misstatement," she said.

[Hepburn]

16. Free advertising proving her to be a MAJOR liar.

Yeah, that's the ticket...it's free advertising.

Great idea cuz the Clinton campaign is so far in the red....Hillary intentionally went out and lied MAJOR LEAGUE to get those pics of her and the 8-year-old she left standing alone where she said there was danger from sniper fire all over the fucking news.

Yeah...great idea....that's the ticket!

:rofl:

[countingbluecars]

17. That's some fancy spinning! eom

[Schema Thing]

121. "fancy"="incredibly stupid"?

[JKaiser]

18. Go Hillary!

[verges]

25. Yes.

Go. Hillary. Now, before you disgrace yourself and the party any more.

[Hepburn]

43. Amen. n/t

[grantcart]

19. Now I understand why this is going to go to the convention

Thank you very much for this very revealing OP - though I don't think it expressed what you thought it would.

[Fredda Weinberg]

20. Mike Deaver would agree w/you. It worked for Ronnie

And those who demonize her look petty and mean.

[juajen]

82. Thanks, Fredda. I was beginnning to feel surrounded in a war zone myself.

Sometimes it's dripping bullets in here and I fear for my life.

[Fredda Weinberg]

96. Afraid? I'm here under my own name. Now, in '91, when the Big Dog

was running, Usenet newsgroups were filled w/stories of his drug dealing at Mena airport. What a hoot! Email addies from Xerox, HP ... and I'm setting up Freenets.

Enjoy silly season - we'll celebrate when it's over.

[TexasLady]

21. You are right

Chelsea is adorable!
:D

[juajen]

88. Isn't she just? I wish she were mine.

NT

[burythehatchet]

139. I wish she was yours as well. You could keep her with you in your basement

btw, she is ugly ugly ugly to the bone.

Nasty!

She actually used to be quite a bit more attractive before she had her chicklets filed down and before all the plastic surgery. Even her unibrow was kinda cute.

[HereSince1628]

23. The silver lining you are looking for is as phoney as her war story.n/t

[juajen]

90. We shall see, won't we. How are your nails?

NT

[Name removed]

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[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

40. Take A Chill Pill. There Were No Combat Deaths In The Bosnia War.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/org/news/2003/030402-iraq06.htm

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/11/23/opinion/diplomatic/main1071933.shtml

[Johnny__Motown]

47. getting blown up by a mine counts to me... sorry but this disgusts me, American soldiers died

From my link


*In Bosnia, one soldier was killed by a mine, *




I suppose he doesn't count somehow..

Tell that to his family.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

52. Not Sure If That's Accurate Or The Circumstances. But It Is Well Documented That There Were No

COMBAT deaths in Bosnia. Get over it.

[Johnny__Motown]

56. The quote in the OP is "No Body Bags" that is a fucking lie

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

67. Obviously In Reference To Combat Deaths, In Which There Were None.

It's well known there weren't any combat deaths in Bosnia, and the OP merely alluded to it. Your completely overdramatic and denigrating reply to them was unnecessary and almost comical.

[Johnny__Motown]

72. Then the OP should have said that.. I don't find the death of even one Soldier comical

This is the type of attitude that got us into Iraq in the first place, Just downplay the deaths. They are volunteers anyways.


Maybe they define combat deaths as when you exchange fire with the enemy. I honestly don't care about the Pentagon's definitions. One got blown up by a mine, others died there in accidents. It doesn't matter. They are still dead.


I am disgusted by the misleading statement in the OP. Your splitting hairs on what is or is not a combat death won't change that.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

79. There Was No Misleading Statement And You Have Way Over Reacted. To Silly Degrees In Fact.

You're creating a situation where one didn't exist. No soldiers were lost in the war due to the war, PERIOD. There were accidental deaths etc, but NONE that were combat related. That's the fuckin fact jack. So get off the OP's fucking back already and get a grip, will ya?

And get your fuckin facts straight too: No soldier was blown up by a mine. How'd I just KNOW that your information was going to turn out to be inaccurate? Just shocking, I tells ya.

[Johnny__Motown]

84. They died, ok it was blown up ammunition not a mine, sorry. still he is dead and would not be if he

were not sent to Bosnia



we just hit 4000 dead in Iraq, this isn't a good time to split hairs over dead soldiers

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

92. Bosnia Had No American Casualties Of War. You Were Wrong. You Should Apologize To The OP.

Let's see if ya have the integrity to do so.

[Johnny__Motown]

94. Fuck that, people died who Clinton sent to Bosnia, the OP should Apologize to thier families

[juajen]

93. No, the death of even one soldier should certainly not be ignored by me.

It wouldn't have been, if I had known of one. I was simply going by what General Clark said many times, as OMC has already pointed out.

WOW, what an over reaction?

I have five brothers who were in the service of this country. One was a ranger, one worked at the pentagon and one served three tours in Vietnam.

Be careful who you speak to about war and death. They just might know more than you.

[Johnny__Motown]

98. Thank you for that, but it is a bad time to fuck up on this, we just hit 4000 dead in Iraq

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

103. She Fucked Up On Nothing. You Are Splitting Hairs And Attacking Her Unfairly.

Shame on you for continuing to do so.

There were no casualties of war in Bosnia. Stop attacking the OP unfairly about it. It's disgusting.

[Johnny__Motown]

106. There were body bags, end of story. I am not splitting hairs you are

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

114. You Viciously And Disgustingly Attacked The OP For No Reason And A Petty 'Gotcha'.

You should be ashamed.

For the sake of the OP context and what was being portrayed, the OP was 100% accurate. The ways you over reacted and viciously attacked the OP is unacceptable an inexcusable. Nothing you say can change that and I found your behavior to be beyond disgusting.

The OP didn't say nobody died IN Bosnia. She said nobody died in the Bosnia war. And guess what: Nobody did die in the Bosnia war, regardless of some that lost their lives due to outside circumstances UNRELATED to the war. You were wrong. No matter how hard you will try to hang on to your petty "bbbbut it happened inside Bosnia" gotcha bullshit, it will never come close to justifying your ridiculous outrage and disgustingly vicious attack.

I'm done with you. The fact you won't apologize to the OP for your behavior is enough for me to consider you someone I'd rather not converse with.

[Blue Diadem]

70. His name was Sgt. 1st Class Donald A. Dugan, 38, of Belle Center, Ohio

Sgt. 1st Class Donald A. Dugan, 38, of Belle Center, Ohio, was killed Saturday in northern Bosnia when ammunition exploded in his hands, and not by a land mine as originally reported, a NATO spokesman said Monday. He was the ninth alliance soldier to die since NATO troops began entering the Balkans in December.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/index/bosnia/feb96/nbos148.htm

It's ashame the OP ignored the fact to promote Hillary.

[Johnny__Motown]

73. The point is he is still dead. I am not happy with misrepresenting a war for political gain

it seems un democratic to me somehow

[Blue Diadem]

I agree.

I just wanted his name out there since some people seem to think his death wasn't as important as someone killed in combat.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

75. It Was Not Combat Related. There Were No Combat Deaths.

The OP was referencing substantiated fact. Get a grip.

But thanks for shedding light onto the INACCURACY of the article the previous poster submitted, and WHY he's wrong in stating there had been combat deaths.

The OP is right on this one.

[Blue Diadem]

78. no body bags means no body bags..you get a grip.

Ignoring our dead soldiers never does anything to advance political views.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

83. No American Soldier Lost Their Life DUE To The War In Bosnia. Therefore, NO BODY BAGS Were In

direct relation to the war in bosnia. You are wrong, and both of you are wrong for trying to deride the OP for making ACCURATE statements.

To make an assertion that the OP was ignoring dead soldiers is fucking pathetic and completely inappropriate, on both of your parts.

[Johnny__Motown]

86. if they were not sent to Bosnia they would not be dead..

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

95. How The Fuck Do You Know?

They didn't die because they were in Bosnia. The did not die because they were fighting the war. They died due to human error and accidents. The war in bosnia was just inconsequential circumstance.

There were no american casualties of war in Bosnia. You were wrong. You attacked the OP unfairly and in an over the top hyper dramatic fashion. You should apologize. Let's see if you have the integrity to do so.

[Johnny__Motown]

100. they would not be in those circumstances, you can't assume fate would have killed them if they were

not sent there.

[Blue Diadem]

104. So why was he there then? Why was he handling ammunition?

OMC, I'm not about to disregard any soldier's death.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

107. He's A Soldier In The Army. They, Like, Handle Ammunition A Lot And Stuff.

Being in Bosnia was just circumstantial and irrelevant.

You both are splitting hairs in some warped and disgusting intent to catch the OP in a gotcha that doesn't exist. It's fucking ridiculous and you both should be ashamed.

There were no casualties of war in Bosnia. None. The OP was correct. Leave her the fuck alone already.

[Johnny__Motown]

110. In a war he handles ammunition a lot... and stuff, If not sent there he might have been not

handling live ammunition

[Johnny__Motown]

80. Read my posts again please.. I never said combat deaths, I just said they died

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

89. Wrong.

You inferred that there were deaths directly related to the war in Bosnia and then attacked the OP viciously in an uncalled for manner. You were wrong. There were no deaths directly related to the war in Bosnia. Just because someone died while they were IN Bosnia, does not mean they were a casualty of the WAR in bosnia.

Again: THERE WERE NO AMERICAN CASUALTIES OF WAR IN BOSNIA. Therefore, saying there were no body bags due to the war in Bosnia is accurate. You are being petty, irrational, silly and were quite unfair to the OP. That's a fuckin fact. Keep parroting your position all you want, but it's just quite simply wrong.

[Johnny__Motown]

91. and the "absolutely no body bags" comment suggests nobody died. People died end of story

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

99. Nobody Died Due To The War. End Of Story. You Were Wrong.

The way you treated the OP was disgusting and way exaggerated and unfair. If you had a shred of decency and integrity you'd apologize for it.

You are splitting hairs and looking for some 'gotcha' just so you could TEAR APART another DU'er by viciously attacking them and shaming them. That's fuckin pathetic and YOU should be the one who's ashamed. The OP didn't even come close to deserving your vitriolic abuse.

Guess it shows what kind of character you have.

[Johnny__Motown]

105. This is insane,,, people died who were sent there, your belittling their deaths shows your character

[Blue Diadem]

152. So OMC, are there 4,000 dead American soldiers from the Iraq war or 3271?

The 4000 number includes non-hostile deaths, accidents, suicides etc.

http://icasualties.org/oif/HNH.aspx

[redqueen]

155. I was wondering about that...

thanks for providing the info on what kinds of deaths are included in that number... since apparently the kinds of deaths matter... somehow.

[juajen]

109. I ignored no fact. I simple repeated what I have heard

General Wesley Clark say many times. If that was wrong, he also should be corrected, don't you think. I believe you can get in touch with him on the Wesley Clark website. Please let me know what he says about his misstatement. Perhaps he lied, and was not really there.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

116. My Advice Would Be To Ignore The Attack. You Were 100% In The Right And Didn't Deserve It.

Sorry you had to be viciously attacked like that without cause. I think the facts are clear enough and that you shouldn't feel the need to defend yourself to that unfair poster any further. Everyone else here knows what you meant and that you were right in what you said, so don't take that's posters ridiculous attack to heart. :)

[juajen]

102. Thanks so much. I didn't have those links at my fingertips.

You're the greatest for coming to the aid of this little old lady.

[Bigleaf]

26. Yeah, great publicity. The lie, not misstatement, LIE, is being laughed at by the media

because it is so blatant and outrageous. I saw numerous TV personalities laughing at her version of the landing. If you want to spin that as a positive, great. I hope she tells more of her lies to get even more exposure for herself.

[Tellurian]

36. O holds the 1ST place title for "Throwing People Under the Bus"

His own Grandmother and John Edwards for openers..

[juajen]

112. How do you know what they were laughing about, if, indeed,

they were laughing. I have had the news on all day and have seen no one laugh. If so, perhaps they realize they are giving her lots of publicity and are amused at the reasons, since they are so stupid.

[Ino]

31. Geez, you're easy to please! (nt)

[clevbot]

33. NY TIMES SAYS

Mrs. Clinton’s best hope now is that Mr. Obama, as a candidate, suffers a political collapse akin to what has happened to the subprime mortgage market, a view shared by aides in both campaigns.

LOLLOOLOLOLLOL ITS OVER
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/24/us/politics/24web-nagourney.html?_r=3&adxnnl=1&oref=slogin&adxnnlx=1206461520-0ShOrDXt/qmswj9KhhvYsQ

[juajen]

118. Interesting article and not all of the article is pro Obama. It's certainly

worth a read.

[AllentownJake]

34. Wow how forshadowing that 1984 viral ad was

You people really are like the people in 1984. When the glorius leader makes a mistake you turn it into a beautiful triumph of the glorius leader....and you say we drink the kool aid.

[juajen]

120. OMG, pot calling kettle black!

Thanks for posting. Check your nails!

[high density]

35. Free major advertising that says "I'm a liar"

I dunno, maybe she's going for the fifth of the country that loves Bush & Cheney.

[billyoc]

41. It's that or nothing for the Clinton campaign, they're 2-3 million in the hole.

They couldn't buy a personal ad.

[grantcart]

50. bingo we have a winner

[juajen]

122. I'm sure you have no idea what their fundraising totals are this month.

I am sure she will not have as much as Obama; that's why she has to be smarter.

[Life Long Dem]

44. I guess we will be seeing bullshit post like this all week now.

Has Clinton ever been around gun fire? You don't forget something like that. She was perfectly clear in her PUBLIC lie, but just in case she got caught, she would pull a memory problem. Hello? Gun fire? A little girl with a crowd waiting where she landed out in the open?

What else, oh, and if she has such a bad memory where something like this happened only 12 years ago then she has another problem to boot. Jeez, how old is Chelsea in the video? Doesn't even look that long ago, but that's just me i guess.

Now blame it Obama for loss.

[Ichingcarpenter]

46. TAYLOR MARSH said she really Blew this one.... Taylor Marsh for god's sake

Taylor Marsh: I've had a problem with the whole "experience" argument from the start. As with Obama, then you have to prove it, which hasn't been especially impressive on his behalf.

...

But Hillary Clinton trying to prove her importance during her husband's presidency overreached massively and got caught in a whopper on Bosnia that includes tape. Now to be fair, the trip wasn't completely safe from danger, but no one cares now. We remember her well received foreign policy speech from last week, which included the words shown above, with the video tape evidence circulating today that blows what she said in a major foreign policy speech to smithereens. It's a self-inflicted wound that is by no means fatal, but definitely foolish.


http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/3/25/111852/289/288/483798

[Window]

74. Wow! Taylor Marsh...Hillary's biggest cheerleader. Wow!

It must be bad.

[juajen]

123. I don't always agree with Taylor Marsh, and I believe a lot of the

American people will see this as I see it. BTW, she has been to Baghdad about four times (please correct me if I'm wrong) and has not hesitated to go to that war zone. How about you? Been to Iraq in the past five years?

[PoliticalAmazon]

48. Hillary has NO chance in the GE now. This one issue in hands of GOP would destroy her. n/t

[JTFrog]

54. How'd that free advertising work out for Dean? n/t

[SoCalDem]

55. Like all that "free" time her husband got in 1998?

That's not the kind of free time politicians like :)

[juajen]

129. Well, I don't know, but he left office with a 70% approval rating

and i don't believe it was for his excellent cigar action. I guess I could be mistaken on that. He also commands a great deal of respect in this country and in the world.

That is one case where the worst publicity in the world ended up doing him little permanent harm, because the people saw the big picture. He was there in the White House doing his job and doing it well.

Do you see any correlation here? A misspoken word does not take away from the fact that she traveled on our behalf constantly and did a remarkable job everywhere she went. She is still in the top five of the most respected women in the world, last time I checked. If there are new numbers, I'm sure ya'll will let me know.

[BootinUp]

57. Yep. nt

[charlie]

59. I encourage her to continue being so smart

She should moon the White House and get free advertising for decades. Campaign in cammies and greasepaint. But most importantly, "misspeak" every day, early and often. With that kind of wall-to-wall coverage, she'll be elected Empress of North America and get to smack the puny POTUS around at her whim.

[rucky]

61. Have you seen the description and the actual footage side-by-side?

Because that's what people are seeing on YouTube by the tens of thousands.

[juajen]

134. Ad Nauseum. Do you think I would post this without having

first viewed the videos. Did you see the soldiers and tanks surrounding her? Is this the video you're talking about? Do you think those were all fake? Do you think she did not fly to Bosnia and endanger herself. BTW, I understand that Chelsea did not go everywhere her mom went. Do you dispute this?

[rucky]

135. No reception. Reception. n/t

[DearAbby]

62. Her Memory wasn't faulty

She completely fabricated the story, like my Dad used to fabricate the huge fish he used to catch, when he went fishing...by the end of the story, that fish was the size of Moby Dick.

There is a difference ya know, from mixing up facts, and making up facts. Hillary made a whopper of a story, that could beat any of my Father's. Great fish story Hillary....bwhahahahahaw

[bigtree]

63. It was an historic trip, compared by the press to Eleanor Roosevelt's own trip

into a war zone, because of the risks involved for the First lady.

[cemaphonic]

64. This is tank commander Dukakis and "invented the internet" Gore rolled into one.

Controversial policy decisions and scandal can be worked through. This makes Hilary into an object of ridicule, and no politician can long survive that.

(yeah, I know that Gore was misquoted, but the ridicule stuck.)

[juajen]

130. I guess no one ever brings up Monica and the blue dress anymore?

Gee, I didn't know it was all forgotten. How stupid of me.

[DearAbby]

65. DU Burp

Dupe

Great fish story Hillary....bwhahahahahaw

[GalleryGod]

66. I wouldn't take such luck to Vegas.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

68. Some commercial.

It makes the "mission accomplished" incident look noble by comparison.

[JBoy]

69. Hillary told the kind of bullshit tale that guys use in bars

in feeble attempts to pick up women.

Except those guys have the advantage of no YouTube footage proving they're NOT race car drivers.

[juajen]

136. Have you been to either Baghdad or Bosnia during combat?

Do you honestly think people in their right mind are laughing because a lovely First Lady and now, Senator, puts herself in danger representing her country? I pray for all our Senators and Representatives when they are in a combat zone, as we all should. It is, simply put, dangerous.

Obama supporters who disrespect Hillary Clinton do their nominee no favors. They have both made missteps, and only time will tell which is the bigger; but, they both deserve respect from all democrats. When I see other than this, I am afraid I do not think they are true democrats.

I have made fun of Obama's supporters and have certainly pointed out missteps I believe he has made, but, I do not think I ever disrespected him personally. If I did, I hereby apologize to Sen. Obama. I will, however, continue to point out what I believe his deficiencies are in this election, as I will also continue to point out what Hillary's strengths are.

[Vinca]

76. You call repeated footage of her fibbing "free advertising?"

Darn . . . the Obama cult needs to remember that one.

[elixir]

81. Free air time highlighting her international expertise. Booyah.

[Drunken Irishman]

87. Well I guess that's one way to spin it.

[BenDavid]

108. what the right wants and with the willing left whoremedia is

both hope this will in some way cause her to lose respect with voters and this will in some way begin helping obama. The right are not stupid. They see a big ass opening against obama with the pastor wright's anti american, anti white, anti jew anti israel comments, and boy do they ever want to run against obama.....they never really wanted to run against hrc, but then again they will have too.....

[DerekJ]

113. I bet "anti jew anti israel comments" is all what you see.

Your unsubstantiated hate to Obama had to be because of something. And I say unsubstantiated because you have no proof that Obama has said anything that is "anti jew anti israel comments". May be you don't like the "Hussein" in his name, if you know what I mean.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

111. "...compared to Obama's visit to his grandmother's place."

I'm not even going to touch that one. :puke:

[berni_mccoy]

117. NO BODY BAGS!?! YOU ARE CLUELESS!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosnian_War#Casualties

320 UNPROFOR soldiers died in the conflict.

Over 100,000 people died.

[redqueen]

125. Thank you.

*sigh*

[juajen]

145. I didn't mean to leave any soldier out, no matter how he died.

I was simply unaware of non-combat deaths. I agree, they should be counted; although I am very aware that because of the inherent danger when you have a lot of soldiers anywhere, either on a base or in combat, that there is a difference between being shot by an enemy or either accidentally shot or killed in other ways, even suicide. I hate that I left anyone off. I certainly didn't do it on purpose.

I am a pacifist, so perhaps I read about those deaths somewhere and just decided not to remember them. I can put my head in the sand when it comes to war. My husband knew right off about these deaths. I just didn't ask him before I posted.

So, for those of you who are so upset because i didn't mention non-combat deaths, I can only say that I repeated what I have heard from the good General Clark on many occasions. I should have realized that this didn't count accidental deaths, because now that I think of it, I remember General Clark telling about an accidental death, or one of his soldiers talking about his part in a rescue where a soldier died.

You should not always paint people with the brush of cruelty and carelessness unless you know it is earned. In my case, it is not.

I do apologize for leaving these brave people out of the equation.

[Blue Diadem]

146. I thank you for that. I know it's not commonly recognized

that there were deaths in Bosnia. It's reported to be as high as 6 American soldier deaths.

I don't know why they weren't widely reported back then and and why no American count was ever associated with Bosnia. It would be like us leaving off 700+ of the 4000 who have died in Iraq.

http://icasualties.org/oif/Details.aspx

edited for clarity.

[Thepricebreaker]

124. Your wrong.. over 320 soliders died.... also your spinning so much you have gone 360 - dizzy yet?

[alcibiades_mystery]

126. Can we nominate this for a DUzy?

:rofl:

[progressoid]

133. Yeah, I love these comedy threads!

:rofl:

[redqueen]

128. "You can call it a lie." Really? We can do that?

Unfrickinreal.

[VolcanoJen]

131. It's on all major channels??? Awesome!

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[midnight]

132. I agree that Hillary has done an excellent job representing this

Country abroad... But can you explain what you mean about Obama's trip to his grandmother's place. I'm not aware of this. It certainly doesn't hurt when comparisons are made of her over 80 trips abroad, beautifully representing our country, compared to Obama's visit to his grandmother's place.

Thanks.

[juajen]

142. His one trip abroad was to Kenya to visit his African grandmother.

Thanks for posting.

[comrade snarky]

147. That's just not true

He's been on several trips as a Senator so that's a load of malarkey unless you have seen some passport files you'd like to share.

2005
August-September
Moscow
Kiev
Baku
Azerbaijan
I'm pretty sure there was also a stop in London to meet with British officials but I don't have the link in front of me.

2006
January
Qatar
Kuwait
Iraq
Jordan
Israel
August - September
South Africa
Democratic Republic of the Congo
Kenya
Djibouti
Chad

http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/archives/002595.php

[txaslftist]

137. When all your experiences are made up, what good is experience?

[juajen]

143. So, you think it is a lie that she was in Bosnia? How about Baghdad?

How about all of those photos we all saw in Africa and in China, and meeting with the Queen of England, ad nauseum. What f**ing lies are you talking about?

[enid602]

140. rodeo

Dianne Reem (sp?) on NPR played Hill's entire economic speech from PA. Great speech; again, she's the only one talking about very specific policies. I know she was taunted for suggesting that Greenspan and Paulsen (a BO supporter, btw) be appointed to a committee to assess the foreclosure situation, but her ideas are sound and proactive.

When I came home from the supermarket, she was still on. When I got by from the gym, they had a round-table discussion of her speech.

She's looking good; to plagiarize Joan Crawford, it's obvious that this 'ain't her first time at the rodeo.'

[txaslftist]

141. "The (other unnecessary) war we won..."

just to clarify.

[juajen]

144. I have not made a judgment on whether it was necessary, for what it's worth.

I am generally a pacifist and hate all wars, unless its a strictly defensive. I've heard why the war was fought, just haven't read enough to have a definitive opinion, unlike the Iraq war which we all know is a farce. Perhaps you could enlighten me about the Bosnian War.

[anamandujano]

148. The images of the men behind the fences with emaciated bodies

made the war necessary. It was reminiscent of the concentration camps.

The argument was made that this sort of thing happens in many many countries but, the simple fact that the press went there and the cameras got the pictures caused outrage and we had to do it.

edit to add

[juajen]

150. I've never seen that photo. It's horrible.

The shame is that it is probably happening in many places in this world that we simply don't see or know about. I've said many times that we cannot police the world, but, there should be better reporting on our news. If they simply devoted one hour a day to hot spots around the world, it would be illuminating. Guess there's not any money to be made in doing that. I hope I'm proven wrong.

[ShortnFiery]

151. Yes, travel agents go to over a hundred countries, perhaps we should make a travel agent President?

"Smart lady" to you - equates to - "smarmy LYING politician" to me.

[susankh4]

153. Excellent summary of the week!

Thanks.

K&R.

[juajen]

154. Thanks for posting and for the rec.

NT

[Kahuna]

156. Really?

:crazy: