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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 11:54 AM
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Hillary tried to block Nixon's impeachment
by Jerry Zeifman

Hillary's Crocodile Tears in Connecticut

I have just seen Hillary Clinton and her former Yale law professor both in tears at a campaign rally here in my home state of Connecticut. Her tearful professor said how proud he was that his former student was likely to become our next President. Hillary responded in tears.

My own reaction was of regret that, when I terminated her employment on the Nixon impeachment staff, I had not reported her unethical practices to the appropriate bar associations.

Hillary as I new her in 1974

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"John Labovitz apologized to me for the fact that months ago he and Hillary had lied to me Labovitz said. 'That came from Yale.' I said "You mean Burke Marshall ' Labovitz said, 'Yes.' His apology was significant to me, not because it was a revelation but because of his contrition."

At that time Hillary Rodham was 27 years old. She had obtained a position on our committee staff through the political patronage of her former Yale law school professor Burke Marshall and Senator Ted Kennedy. Eventually, because of a number of her unethical practices I decided that I could not recommend her for any subsequent position of public or private trust.

more . . . http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_jerry_ze_080325_1974_3a_hillary_lost_j.htm
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 12:00 PM
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1. Lying, Hiding, and flawed recommendations. Not good.
"Hillary assured me that she had not drafted, and would not advocate, any such rules changes. However, as documented in my personal diary, I soon learned that she had lied. She had already drafted changes, and continued to advocate them."

"I had also informed Hillary that the Douglas impeachment files were available for public inspection in the committee offices. She later removed the Douglas files without my permission and carried them to the offices of the impeachment inquiry staff -- where they were no longer accessible to the public."

"Hillary had also made other ethical flawed procedural recommendations, arguing that the Judiciary Committee should: not hold any hearings with "" or take depositions of -- any live witnesses; not conduct any original investigation of Watergate, bribery, tax evasion, or any other possible impeachable offense of President Nixon; and should rely solely on documentary evidence compiled by other committees and by the Justice Departments special Watergate prosecutor ."


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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 12:04 PM
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2. Why in the world was she defending him?
Was she still a republican?
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 12:06 PM
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3. Was she still a republican?
IS she still a republican?

:shrug:
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 12:19 PM
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5. Sometimes I wonder
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invictus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 12:21 PM
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6. She's DLC. That's the Republican Wing of the Democratic Party. n/t
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 01:04 PM
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7. Bingo!!
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 12:06 PM
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4. Even If She was a Republican, her Actions were Unethical
to say the least.
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 03:15 PM
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8. youthful indescretions from the goldwater grrl
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galaxy21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 03:21 PM
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9. Nixon was a good president though..maybe he deserved some slack
Edited on Tue Mar-25-08 03:22 PM by galaxy21
Yeah, he was a crook, but what did he do that was that bad?! Broke into a few buildings. Took some money on the side...etc. At least he didn't start an unwinnable war that's killed thousands of people.

It's odd because in many ways Nixon was the last liberal president, but everyone acts like he was some sort of monster.
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nebula Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 03:58 PM
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12. Nixon WAS a monster, and a habitual liar
Nixon campaigned on a platform of ending the Vietnam War but once in office,
he promptly escalated it. which is EXACTLY what Hillary will do in IRAQ. Nixon and Kissinger ordered the secret Christmas bombings of Cambodia, which lead to the deaths of hundreds of thousands.



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suffragette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 04:52 PM
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16. I feel like I'm in Bizarro DU
where everything is now the opposite.`

Nixon was NOT a good president.
Nixon was a criminal.

It's not just that the buildings were broken into, it's the political reasons for committing the crime.
Not to mention the bombing escalations, the enemies list, the dismantling of programs to help people in poverty, the training ground for the current crop in the White House, etc.

And it's the height of revisionism to proclaim him the last liberal president. Excuse me - President Carter.

You might want to read this:

http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0112-08.htm


No one disliked the program more than then-President Richard Nixon, who saw the whole apparatus as a government way to fund the left. Upon his election, Nixon appointed Rumsfeld to direct the OEO. Rumsfeld, in turn, hired Dick Cheney. It was at OEO that they worked together for the first time. They were joined by another future Cabinet secretary: Christine Todd Whitman, whose influential Republican connections won her first government post at OEO.

According to a 2001 New Yorker article, what impressed Rumsfeld most about the young Dick Cheney was the job he'd been doing for a group of congressman, including George H.W. Bush, who were developing legislation to cut off federal funding to troublesome universities. Cheney sat in on campus meetings and gathered information on faculty involvement in anti-war protests and their relationship to groups like Students for a Democratic Society. At OEO, Rumsfeld and Cheney embraced as their mission not to direct the office, but to discredit its programs and ultimately to dismantle the agency. From a federal funding service, they turned OEO into a tool of federal surveillance.

Federally funded community groups found themselves investigated for alleged misuse of public money and accused of subversive activities. By 1972, the OEO was near death (it was disbanded officially under President Ford) and government-funded community action had became one of the red-hot, hot-button undesirables of LBJ's Great Society. The legacy persists, echoing through every bitter debate over Congressional appropriations for grassroots projects from public broadcasting to the NEA.

~snip~

Forty years ago, the War on Poverty and its anti-poverty empowerment programs were the dreaded threat. Publicly endowed "community action" just might have empowered poor and marginalized Americans by giving them the means to organize and advocate for themselves.

The very same men who rolled that program back are now pursuing Washington's unchallenged dominance of the world. Same folks, different strokes; the 40th anniversary of the War on Poverty is a good time to consider the many ways in which today's wars for global supremacy began at home.
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 06:26 PM
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17. Maybe he just looks good compared to Bush
Yikes, that's scary!
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suffragette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 11:10 PM
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30. I can understand a comparison of him, Reagan and Bush I and II
using bad, worse and worst.

But good? No way, no how, not ever buying even a little piece of that, no matter how the revisionists try to recreate him and his legacy.














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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 06:54 PM
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21. Have I landed in the Twilight Zone??
Nixon was indeed a fucking monster. He bombed Hanoi on Christmas Eve.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 06:39 PM
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35. Where am I
:cry:
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 08:23 PM
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28. Are you sure you're at the right message board?
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 06:42 PM
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36. That developed into a lifelong pattern.
No wonder Obama said she was "likable enough". He was being kind.
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flowomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 03:30 PM
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10. "Only a few far left Democrats supported Hillary's recommendations."
I wonder who those evil leftists were? And why the left was behind the Rodham plot?
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elixir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 03:44 PM
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11. Hey, are you Proud2BMurkin?
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 04:37 PM
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15. Proud as I recall was a strong Hillary supporter.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 06:48 PM
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19. No - on both counts
Not that DUer and not proud to be an American.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 04:14 PM
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13. Just like Bill covered up..
Bush I crimes. I guess that's the experience Hillary talks about..the criminal stuff. The 'cleaning up' part she talks about, is sweeping the shit under the rug.
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MagickMuffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 04:29 PM
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14. This statement says it all
As was later to be described in the Wall Street Journal by Henry Ruth -- the lead Watergate courtroom prosecutor-- "The Clintons corrupted the soul of the Democratic Party."

I guess it is now the duty to finish the job, by driving a stake in what is left of the Democratic Party.:cry:

Thanks for posting this, proud2Blib


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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 06:50 PM
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20. Anytime, Muffin
:hi:
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 06:35 PM
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18. K&R I had no idea about this. Bones are tumbling out of the closet now n/t
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FlyingSquirrel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 07:06 PM
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22. Criminy, it seems like most of the posters above did not bother to read the article
Edited on Tue Mar-25-08 07:07 PM by FlyingSquirrel
Marshall, Doar, Nussbaum, and Rodham had two hidden objectives regarding the conduct of the impeachment proceedings. First, in order to enhance the prospect of Senator Kennedy or another liberal Democrat being elected president in 1976 they hoped to keep Nixon in office "twisting in the wind"- for as long as possible. This would prevent then-Vice President Jerry Ford from becoming President and restoring moral authority to the Republican Party.

A second objective of the strategy of delay was to avoid a Senate impeachment trial, in which as a defense Nixon might assert that Kennedy had authorized far worse abuses of power than Nixon's effort to "cover up"- the Watergate burglary (which Nixon had not authorized or known about in advance). In short, the crimes of Kennedy included the use of the Mafia to attempt to assassinate Castro, as well as the successful assassinations of Diem in Vietnam and Lumumba in the Congo.


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Now I am an Obama supporter, and I don't approve of the fact that Hillary apparently lied to Zeifman as follows:

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After hiring Hillary, Doar assigned her to confer with me regarding rules of procedure for the impeachment inquiry. At my first meeting with her I told her that Judiciary Committee Chairman Peter Rodino, House Speaker Carl Albert, Majority Leader "Tip"- O'Neill, Parliamentarian Lou Deschler and I had previously all agreed that we should rely only on the then existing House Rules, and not advocate any changes.

I also quoted Tip O'Neill's statement that: "To try to change the rules now would be politically divisive. It would be like trying to change the traditional rules of baseball before a World Series."

Hillary assured me that she had not drafted, and would not advocate, any such rules changes. However, as documented in my personal diary, I soon learned that she had lied. She had already drafted changes, and continued to advocate them.


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So she lied, and that was wrong. HOWEVER, it is ludicrous to state that Hillary was supporting Nixon. She clearly had the same general feeling as Pelosi, (which I feel is wrongheaded now as then) that it would be better for our chances at the WH in 1976 to not impeach the president.

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NJSecularist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 07:12 PM
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23. Hillary is reaching Richard Nixon levels of dishonesty. n/t
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 07:59 PM
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24. Jerry Zeifman is a right-wing tool who should never be cited as an authority in a Democratic forum.
From the same link, describing his most recent "literary" activity:

Hillary's Pursuit of Power (2006); Memoirs of a Roosevelt Democrat (to be published in February 2008). Articles: Wall Street Journal; Washington Times; Insight Magazine; NewsMax; National Ledger; World Net Daily; New York Post.


He's a freeper. Fuck'm.
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flowomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 08:08 PM
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25. yes, and see that curious quote from his article in my post above...
What does THAT mean?
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 08:15 PM
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26. I think it's more confirmation that the author is a freeper.
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flowomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 08:21 PM
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27. seems so to me.... "far left"? Who? Someone I liked, I bet
Edited on Tue Mar-25-08 08:22 PM by flowomo
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 08:31 PM
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29. A suggestion: Before posting and looking like an idiot, read the article
Whatever he may once have been, the author became a rw nutjob somewhere along the way. If you actually bother to read the article, you'd find that among his criticisms (none of which I believe, by the way -- and I'm an obama supporter) is that Clinton was trying to keep Nixon in office to ensure that a Democrat would get elected in 1976. He also claims that she was trying to prevent an impeachment trial (again, something she almost certainly didn't have the power to do, seeing as she was only one of around 40 counsel to the impeachment inquiry) in order to prevent Nixon from revealing all sorts of bad bad things done by JFK while he was president.

The article in the OP is from a dubious source, by a dubious author, and makes exceedingly dubious claims.

Anyone who relies on this article is a fool
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 06:30 PM
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33. oped news is not a dubious source
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 11:24 PM
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31. "Hillary as I NEW her"
C'mon, this person cannot even spell "knew" correctly?

BTW, is this guy even credible?
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ForeignSpectator Donating Member (970 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 07:23 AM
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32. Yes, isn't spelling deficiency the primary give-away of rw "morans"?
Enjoyed reading the excerpt but that "new" is really striking...
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 06:38 PM
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34. And now some people in the higher echelons
want her to be the fucking president? I had a feeling this has been a pattern way before firebysniperliargate.
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