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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 12:52 PM
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While Clinton Delays the Inevitable...
Iraq continues to fall apart:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080325/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq;_ylt=AgbFFwUErZc8p0j3ghr2IiWs0NUE

The ice caps continue melting:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080325/ap_on_sc/antarctica_collapse;_ylt=ArjkmFL.tqtNpB_kDAaE_Oas0NUE

The economy continues to tank:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080325/ap_on_bi_ge/economy;_ylt=AmSSqt33mzMz86UGQp9mNsas0NUE

The housing market continues to collapse:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080325/ap_on_bi_ge/home_prices;_ylt=Apt0oilmaIE7jieXcTbtq_ms0NUE

War money continues to be squandered:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080325/ap_on_re_as/afghan_aid_shortfall;_ylt=AheWPcuctnRWYtMt8_9hRXSs0NUE

People continue to wonder how to pay for health care:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080324/ap_on_he_me/healthbeat_cancer_costs;_ylt=AlYW.HNz61ERnypsmlREK.ys0NUE

The Democratic party continues to divide:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080325/ap_on_el_pr/pelosi_democratic_infighting;_ylt=AvxxVGQxIDSerStEtJK2gbKs0NUE

This is no longer about wasting resources for the sake of the party. It's about all of America. McCain isn't going to tackle these issues, and he's only going to make it worse. Clinton is now putting the country, the world, the people aside for her own hubris. She needs to not only step aside, but start repair the damage she is doing. By delaying the inevitable, she is taking the focus off of these very important issues (not to mention she is the cause of the division in the party).


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Medusa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 12:53 PM
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1. As long as Hillary insists upon staying in a race she knows she can't win
the more time McCain has to avoid talking about issues like those above. Great job on these links. K&R!
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 02:15 PM
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5. And it looks as if today, she's preparing to do significant damage
She's bringing her cronies who architected the racial attacks in Ohio to NC.
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knixphan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 12:54 PM
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2. my·o·pi·a
–noun
1. Ophthalmology.
lack of foresight or discernment; obtuseness.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 01:30 PM
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4. I believe she has foresight, she just choses this path intentionally.
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 12:54 PM
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3. K & R
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 05:25 PM
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6. Self Kick to end the insanity.
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ericgtr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 05:27 PM
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7. K&R
and a big thanks to Hillary for screwing her party.

:kick:
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 05:28 PM
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8. Who will be the last donor to a campaign that cannot win?
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mathewsleep Donating Member (824 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 05:28 PM
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9. this is my favorite post.
thank you.
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mathewsleep Donating Member (824 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 05:50 PM
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11. still.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 06:00 PM
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12. Thank you.
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mathewsleep Donating Member (824 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 06:09 PM
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14. boosh!
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southern_belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 05:30 PM
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10. k & r
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 06:01 PM
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13. And Obama goes on vacation!
woohoo!!!
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 09:17 PM
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20. yeah, imagine a father taking his children to some place nice on
spring vacation. he must be the anti-christ.:sarcasm:
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apocalypsehow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 06:10 PM
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15. The HRC boosters don't care - they've got a fellow Democrat to smear.
n/t.
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TheDeathadder Donating Member (731 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 06:23 PM
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16. Give me a break
if the Primary was wrapped up all this problems would still exist.

Not to mention McCain would still be in the same spot. This Primary can go all the way to the convention and it does nothing to help McCain.

Republicans on a state level are out of money and out of supporters. They have no grassroots organization. They are still tied up in scandals that go back to 2006. They have told a broke and unsupported McCain he is on his own. Polls that question a few thousand people can do nothing to change that.

This race is going to the convention so to keep posting threads of "Stop The Primary. Save Obama" is just pure rhetoric and all high horse.

All the problems mentioned won't get a lick of attention until 2009 or even 2010, so blaming Clinton still running her race is pointless. Everybody knows these problems, the American people aren't fools, they're living it.

If you Obama people want Clinton out, you need to stop your talk and get into action and win Penn.

You need to stop thinking this race is over also. There is a very good possibility she about to make a great run that is going to change public opinion and the will of the super-delegates. There is a good chance of her coming out of the convention as the nominee and going into the GE to bury John McCain.

More important to all the issues you pointed links to, all of these problems of war,of the environment, of the economy, of the housing market , of health care, and of a party divided....AND OBAMA IS ON VACATION IN THE VIRGIN ISLANDS. So even if the race was over today, John McCain would be fine while Obama was relaxing in the sun.

End the retoric...THE PRIMARY CONTINUES UNTIL THE CONVENTION.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 06:26 PM
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17. The problems would still exist yes, but too many people are focused on the campaign
instead of focusing on the problems. These problems are not going away. They become 10 times harder to solve each day. Each day that Senator Clinton wastes, delaying the inevitable, she is taking away from solving these very critical problems. I'm sorry you don't see the truth of this.
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TheDeathadder Donating Member (731 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 06:37 PM
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18. We all see it the way we see it
I see what you are doing as pure rhetoric, it's not solving problems at all. Both sides want these problems solved, I see the truth as well as you do.

I also know Obama's people paid great attention to the DNC rules for the election and how delegates would be given out proportionally, so their plan from the beginning was to stay in the race until the convention ahead or behind...do you see where I'm going with this?

and finally if the race was over today, how would Obama be attacking McCain on these issues while sitting in the Virgin Island sun? From my point of view, and I understand and respect that you don't share my point of view, saying these issues are not be address because Clinton is still running is just rhetoric and anti-primary.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 07:16 PM
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19. Obama's campaign did pay attention to the rules of the party. But they set out to Win this
as quickly as possible. Clinton's campaign has been a complete and miserable failure and when it was apparent to them that they were not going to win, they decided to change the rules, the goals, the goal posts, you name it.

That is the single, matter of fact, truth. There is only one perspective to it.

And while she is playing games, real problems are going unsolved.

Obama being on vacation has nothing to do with it as you would like to believe. EVERYONE in the party is being DISTRACTED with Clinton's ANTICS. She needs to put an end to it now.
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TheDeathadder Donating Member (731 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 11:40 PM
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21. yeah
we better just agree to disagree
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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 12:11 AM
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22. and so she stays for another 3 months.....just what the hell could
obama do even if he had the 2025 and became the nominee? NOT A DAMN THING> We only have one president at a time......and obama will lose this election because his messiahship believes he can unite us all...Damn! if he calls this uniting the dem party in less then 3 full months, just think how the u s will look after 4 years of this reprobate......DAMN!
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