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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 03:11 PM
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Why Hillary’s Lies are Important - Talking Points Memo
Edited on Tue Mar-25-08 03:21 PM by Ichingcarpenter
Hillary Clinton has been caught in a series of lies and misrepresentations during the primary campaign. To some of her supporters, these lies may seem trivial and insignificant and even politics-as-usual. However, please consider the serious impact of these lies by placing them in the context of the past seven years of the Bush Administration and the legacy of expanded executive power that he leaves behind. In particular, consider the dangerous message that the Clinton campaign sends by employing similar tactics to achieve her political goals.

1. The Florida and Michigan Primaries / The Delegate Count
Hillary agreed to honor the DNC’s decision to strip Florida and Michigan of its delegates after their primaries were moved up into January in express violation of the DNC rules. She did not change her position on the validity of these primaries until she found herself unexpectedly behind...>>>>>snip


2. The Bosnia Fabrication / Exaggerated Experience Claims
Hillary fabricated a story about a dangerous, life-risking visit to Bosnia in order to gain stature as an experienced negotiator in international conflicts and war. While this type of embellishment can seem almost comical, it represents a willingness to distort reality in order to influence the public perception. This is the same type of distortion that the Bush administration used to justify the war in Iraq, although the magnitude of the lie is certainly on a different scale. The Bush administration falsified reports, cherry-picked intelligence, used unreliable sources, and employed fear-mongering tactics to convince the American public that our safety was at risk and as such, you were either with us or with the terrorists.......>>>>snip


3. NAFTA
Hillary lied about her position on NAFTA and used her lies in a calculated way to influence the Ohio primary. Recently released White House documents confirm that Hillary had been an active proponent of NAFTA prior to its passage, and she has continued to support it publicly in her speeches and memoir. However, while campaigning in Ohio, she claimed to have been privately against NAFTA during the Clinton presidency and believes that it should be rewritten to protect American jobs and workers. This type of maneuvering is reminiscent of the behind-closed-doors policy-making that the Bush administration has used during the past seven years......>>>snip



These are just three examples that illustrate the concerns we should have with a candidate who demonstrates a sense of entitlement to the nomination and is willing to lie, misrepresent, threaten, and divide in order to obtain the nomination. ..>>>>snip


http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/03/why-hillarys-lies-are-importan.php
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 03:14 PM
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1. Yup... and in the GE, I can see a split screen ad from the Rs with Candidate Hillary
Edited on Tue Mar-25-08 03:15 PM by Skidmore
on one side of the screen mouthing her lies and hubby on the other side wagging his finger. The nation will go cold.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 03:17 PM
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2. 'WORD DO MATTER' Ms Clinton
DO YOU GET IT NOW?
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 03:18 PM
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3. Can you edit to include a link if this is from TPM? n/t
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 03:19 PM
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4. OP needs a link
Pretty please?
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 03:22 PM
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6. DONE N/T :)
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 03:20 PM
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5. They say she made a mistake (just now CNN). The thing is,
Edited on Tue Mar-25-08 03:20 PM by Life Long Dem
the same comment has been made several times.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 03:26 PM
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7. I don't really care what CNN says but it doesn't surprise me
that they would push it away and ignore a pattern of misrepresentation if not down right lies
of the Clinton Campaign. But thanks for filling me in, since I don't watch them.
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 04:15 PM
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8. K/R.
:kick:
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 04:30 PM
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9. Gore Is a Liar
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 05:09 PM
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11. WHY DO YOU KEEP POSTING THIS? n/t
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Voice for Peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 05:03 PM
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10. Great article K&R
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 01:13 AM
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12. self kick n/t
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