Ras: 71% of Dems will vote Clinton in GE, 64% of Dems will vote Obama

[ruggerson]

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/daily_presidential_tracking_poll


"The division in the Democratic Party is highlighted by the fact that just 71% of Democratic Primary voters now say they will vote for Hillary Clinton in the general election campaign. If Barack Obama is nominated, 64% of Democratic Primary voters are ready to vote for him."


Daily horse race: Clinton 46% Obama 43%

http://rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/daily_presidential_tracking_polling_history

[BeatleBoot]

1. Obama's Negatives at 52% too.

interesting that he's barely even pulling 2 out of 3 Dems.

Not good

[roguevalley]

36. bullshit. people will vote for the nom. right now, everyone is full of it,

anger and the rest. in the end, they always vote for the nom.

[BeatleBoot]

38. Go ask Jimmy Carter if they always vote for the nom

Reagan 49 States
Carter 1 State

Or George McGovern 1972

[roguevalley]

39. Edited to remove heat: The draft will do it. they will vote. Vote or die,

that is what this is coming down to. Global warming, warwarwar, etc. survival. Anyone who doesn't, i hope they get drafted first.

[BeatleBoot]

52. It was a lot worse in 1972 and in 1979

We're getting there, but Viet Nam (with a draft) was far worse and the interest rates of 1979 were astronomical (Prime Rate was around 15% at one point).

We are just starting to taste stagflation. But nothing near the stagflation of the late 70's which gave birth to the "misery index".

And in both instances our party got creamed.

Actually, I see a lot of parallels.

[emilyg]

40. Not so.

[JoFerret]

46. Not sure about that

History not a helpful guide.


Maybe it all comes down to how "pure" we want to be.

[gateley]

2. Draft Biden. nt

[galaxy21]

4. They say that now....but when faced with John McSame they'll go for Obama

[MADem]

10. I wouldn't be so certain of that. Nancy Reagan is handing the guy the Ronnie crown. NT

[susankh4]

22. That is a fantasy

McCain is "untouchable" by the media. Obama is fresh meat. Hillary is old, maggot infested meat.

[GoldieAZ49]

31. McCains unpopularity in his party is exactly what makes him appealing to

indies and moderate dems.

O has lost 18% of the indies.

Oh and on all that bipartisan stuff that O says he wants to do, McCain already has a record of doing.


It is foolish to think everyone is going to line up and vote for Obama.

Oh, and on National Security O gets a whopping 10% nationally.

[ooglymoogly]

33. Anyone who puts any stock in pols like this at this stage of the game

is running a pretty loose ship.

[NJSecularist]

3. This is all a fluid situation.

However, neither candidate should be happy with bleeding that much Democratic support. It iterates a real problem we will have in the GE if it continues into November. Neither will win the GE with only 70% of Democratic support.

[David Dunham]

5. Bad numbers for the Obamabots

[NJSecularist]

9. Bad numbers for the Hillbots too.

Hillary isn't winning the general election with 71% of Democratic support, especially with her token independent support.

Whichever candidate is nominated will have work to do to unite the party.

[totodeinhere]

34. Those numbers may well be balanced out by greater support...

from Indies and Repukes for Obama.

[DUyellow]

6. more info...

This OP post means nothing...
2004 polls

[Smelting Pot]

14. That's a GREAT animation!

Seriously, someone needs to post this in EVERY poll topic in this forum!

Thanks for posting that!

[DUyellow]

26. that is what i was planning on doing :)

[InsultComicDog]

27. yep exactly nt

[ChimpersMcSmirkers]

43. Nice pic

[PylesMalfunction]

7. People lie

In a primary fight like this, a lot of people are going to say they wouldn't vote for the other candidate in a GE. It just makes their candidate look stronger in their mind. I might even say that if a pollster called my house. But most will get on board. The rest who won't deserve McCain. It's just too bad the rest of us might have to live with him too. :(

[Blue-Jay]

11. You made that up, didn't you?

[PylesMalfunction]

50. Made what up?

How did I make anything up? :wtf: I didn't present a research study. I've talked with both rabid Clinton and rabid Obama supporters. Quite a few of them have sworn up and down that they won't vote for the other candidate. Yet when you talk to them a while and impress upon them how fucked this world will be if McCain wins, they quickly change their tune. I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility that they might tell a pollster their initial thoughts about not voting for the other candidate.

I also said that if a pollster had called that I might have said I wouldn't vote for the candidate I don't support.

I'm also only 115 pounds. Ok - now THAT'S a lie. :eyes:

And save your snark and ire for someone that won't vote for the Democratic nominee, no matter who it is. I don't want crazy ass McCain as our Commander-in-chief.

[stevietheman]

8. Obama is the nominee... we'll just have to make do with a fantastic...

candidate who can draw votes across the board and actually win. Fancy that.

[MADem]

13. The one who gets 2024 is the nominee. Obama doesn't have that number.

He's NOT the nominee.

He might be, but then again, he might NOT be, either.

[stevietheman]

45. Obama is the nominee, and everyone knows it. n/t

n/t

[MADem]

58. No, "everyone" does not know it. But you enjoy that thought if it keeps you warm. NT

[Arkansas Granny]

16. Can you point me to a link that states that the DNC has made that announcement?

I haven't been able to locate it on their website.

[Bluebear]

24. Wow, when was the nomination made official by the DNC?

[Bake]

32. He's going to HAVE to draw votes across the board

To make up for the Democrats he's alienated.

Bake

[RC]

12. Bill, is that you?

[bunnies]

15. in other words: Hillary supporters are more likely to vote Republican.

Gee. I'm shocked. :eyes:

[FrenchieCat]

19. Clinton Supporters would rather lose their right to choose

than to vote for Obama....and they call Obama supporters members of a cult! :eyes:

[still_one]

23. They could tell their children when they went to vote it was under sniper fire /nt

[InsultComicDog]

30. I AM MAKING THIS POST UNDER HEAVY SNIPER FIRE!!!1!!

-----------------------------.................-------------lookout!............!!!

[bunnies]

28. Reminds me a lot of W supporters.

Cutting off the nose despite the face.

But then I wonder... are these Clinton's older female supporters? Free choice doesnt affect them.

[ruggerson]

29. Really?

I've seen many Clinton supporters say they will absolutely vote for Obama.

I've also seen, as have you, some Obama supporters say they won't vote for Clinton.

So, what's your point? There are idiots on both sides saying they won't vote for the other guy.

[still_one]

41. Hopefully the truth is when they get to the voting booth, they will vote for the Democrat /nt

[susankh4]

25. You shouldn't be

cuz they are more moderate, "heartland" types.

Gotta love 'em.

[MADem]

59. Well, look at the demographic--it's all those "geezers" that the Obama folks insult all the time.

The "Your time has passed, move aside old man" types.

Who goes where they aren't wanted?

That knife cuts both ways, you see.

[still_one]

17. Anyone who calls themseleves a democrat, and doesn't vote for the Democratic nominee

in the general election can go fu*k themseleves, and they deserve the supreme court, Iraq War and economy the will fu*k them

Also, in my view THEY ARE NOT DEMOCRATS, because both candidates positions are NOT that much different

[truth please]

37. Couldn't Have Said It Better!

I have always wondered what would make someone be so ignorant as to vote against their own best interest, just to prove that they are right. As my Grandma says, "Cut off the nose to spite their face". It doesn't matter that almost a million Iraqi's have been killed, millions without homes, electricty and the basic necessities. Innocent people including women, babies and old people dying everyday. Millions who are refugees in bordering countries who are homeless, hungry and sick. Thousands of our troops injured, some mentally being sent back over and over to fight a war of Bush's choosing. An economy that is shot to hell while jobs and money are shipped and spent elsewhere. BUT SO WHAT! I AM GOING TO PUT THE SAME DESTRUCTIVE PARTY BACK INTO POWER IF I CAN'T HAVE MY WAY. GOD HELP US!

[still_one]

42. In moments of anger I may have said things that I regret, but when push comes to shove

FOR THE VERY REASON YOU GAVE, I WILL NOT put the same destructive party back into power, and will vote for WHOEVER the Democratic nominee is

[Guava Jelly]

18. Independents

They will decide the election.(they always do)
This is where Sen Obama out performs Sen Clinton.

[Life Long Dem]

20. Clinton has 6 percent more white voters than Obama?

[Forkboy]

21. So they say now., but when faced with picking between Hillary or Obama against McCain...

..both numbers will rise.

[bowens43]

35. this shows us the caliber of the people who support hillary

she's just like them. It wouldn't surprise a bit to see hill campigning for McCain when Obama wins the nomination.

[Sparkly]

44. Shows again that DU doesn't reflect the party.

I remember polls here showing that more Clinton supporters would vote Obama than Obama supporters who'd vote for Clinton.

I wish it weren't a question at all, and hope by November everybody supporting either of them votes Democratic.

[JoFerret]

54. This is very true. And currently a good thing

.

[gristy]

47. What's this all about? Do only Dems vote in the GE?

Just askin'

[Hippo_Tron]

48. That 7 point gap doesn't bother me as much as the fact that Hillary is only at 71%

That should be closer to 85-90% for both candidates. I would imagine it will get closer to that when we have time to heal the party.

[book_worm]

49. If that's true then both Clinton and Obama are cooked.

[chapel hill dem]

51. Around here, some life-long Democrats are beginning to rationalize

why John McCain isn't that bad of choice if their candidate is not the Democratic Party nominee. The main thought is that if conservatives are talking about sitting out of the GE because McCain is too liberal, then maybe he is worth considering.

My personal hope is that HRC cuts a deal with the DNC, Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi to allow HRC to drop out of the race and take over Reid's job in the Senate. She would be 100% guaranteed to have a hugely important job in January versus the grind and uncertainty of the GE campaign. Obama, and the DNC fund raising machine, could then focus on beating McCain and keep him out of his comfort zone between now and the summer conventions.

FWIW

[Thrill]

53. Typical idiot Democrats. One thing they can learn from Republicans. STICK TOGETHER

idiots

[crankychatter]

55. The Republican Party is accepting registration

don't let the door hit you in the ass

[RBInMaine]

56. These polls don't mean CRAP right now.

[olkaz]

61. /signed

If the supers would just end this thing, we'd have plenty of time to heal up and mobilize for November.

The longer they let the bloodbath go on, the lower our chances get.

[Perry Logan]

57. Emotions are high because of the primary battle. People have until November to settle down.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

60. It's Almost Mathematically Impossible For Either To Win With Those Percentages Of Defections

~

[DemGa]

62. But....but... Barack Obama ran on Hillary's "negatives"

And we still hear that lie repeated here.

Now he's scoring similarly in that category; the difference being that Barack Obama is an UNKNOWN -- and therefore his negatives could CONTINUE to increase significantly.

And Hillary scores HIGHER WITH DEMS -- exceeding Barack Obama Nationally.

You Obamas have lifted up what is likely one of the worst political disasters we could imagine.

[BigDDem]

63. Daily horse race: Clinton 46% Obama 43%

She's ahead, she must drop out!

:rofl: