Good Keerist. He's like a dog with a fucking bone ..... Olbermann

[Stinky The Clown]

He's jumped El Sharko.

All Clinton All the Time

Never mind real newz, Keith. Just keep on doing the journalistic equivalent of drawing mustaches and goatees and Hillary Clinton campaign posters.

And we had such hope for you.

[AX10]

1. Olbermann is the left wing Hannity.

I despise both of them.

He's gone "jihad" on HRC. :argh:

[Joe the Revelator]

81. why do you throw around "left wing" like its a insult?

especially on a left wing message board?

[Name removed]

124. Deleted message

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[Kittycat]

85. Are you a closet freeper?

I have seen two posts almost back to back by you making comments about the "left wing". This is a Liberal/Progressive website. If you don't like the "left wing" - you might want to find a new home to shit up.

[TahitiNut]

112. "closet"??

Ha! :rofl: Pretty transparent closet. :shrug:

[AX10]

135. I am a moderate. This site is for all people who support the Dem party.

[DemVet]

152. Define "Liberal/Progressive" n/t

[NDambi]

166. Goooooooooooooo KO...somebody needs to go Jihad on da Hillster...

[CBGLuthier]

2. He gets mnore brilliant every day

Go Keith Go!!!!

[papau]

3. I refuse to watch Olberman since he became a GE/NBC stooge for Obama

[shadowknows69]

65. You're dreaming if you think GE wants Obama to be President

[dchill]

134. You would think that a phrase like...

"GE/NBC stooge for Obama" would have enough cognitive dissonance even for a Hillbot.
:hi:

[Seabiscuit]

154. You're dreaming if you don't think GE wants to knock Hillary out so McCain can knock Obama out.

They clearly think both GE and McCain will have an easier time against Obama than against Hillary.

They've been building Obama up during the primaries just to rip him to shreds in the GE.

You think it's gotten nasty by now? Be careful what you wish for. The Repukes and the Repuke media would behave like vultures, ripping up and devouring every last piece of Obama's carcass in the GE.

[NoodleyAppendage]

83. Sorry that you are that much of an idiot. GE/TimeWarner/Fox/Disney ALL WANT CLINTON.

Don't bother responding...it's likely that you are a hopeless Clinton koolaid drinker.

J

[Lilith Velkor]

141. That's why they give her all that good press dontcha know!

:rofl:

[NoodleyAppendage]

146. Give me a break. It's been 24/7 Wright Bullshit for TWO WEEKS SOLID.

Hillary gets more than her fair share of passes.

J

[Skittles]

148. are you fucking nuts?

THEY WANT MCCAIN

[Tellurian]

108. Olberman talks so fast he sounds like he's snorting or smoking crack..

I can't stand watching him. He gives me a headache.

[Peregrine Took]

4. Like Air America and Ed Schultz - everyone is doing PR for Obama.

Jeez - enough already.

I just can't listen anymore from Stepanie Miller in the AM to Ed Schultz, Randy Rhodes then on the weekend here in Chicago - all Obama all the time. The more they force him down my gullet the more I resist.

[mckeown1128]

8. Maybe....instead of everyone else being wrong...

maybe just maybe... it is you who is wrong about Obama... did you ever think of that???

[Stinky The Clown]

44. Did you ever think that maybe my complait has NOTHING to do with Obama?

I do not have a candidate that I support. I will simply support whoever wins the nomination.

Just because you're a groupie/cultist doesn't mean everyone else is too.

I dislike Clinton.

I dislike Obama.

What I'm sick of is the petty bullshit that even Olbermann is passing off as 'news'. Did you ever think of that?

[Skittles]

149. I have the same problem with the bots, Husb

it's like you have to goose-step to SOMEONE :puke:

[sniffa]

150. Jesus, were you always this nasty

and I just didn't notice? :shrug:

[leftynyc]

151. Well put

and I'm in total agreement. I'll vote for whoever the nominee is but refuse to join either bandwagon before then. My candidates are out of it. I've stopped watching all cable news shows because they are focusing on the bullshit - both sides.

[AX10]

10. Schultz, Miller, and Rhodes have gone...

over the deep end for Obama.
I see those as being just as bad as Sean Hannity.

[JuniperLea]

20. Yep...

I wrote the S. Miller show just today to tell them my favorite radio lady has been kidnapped and in her place is a whiny, sighing, groaning Dismal Danny... and said good-bye until the general election.

I used to love listening to her on my morning drive! So funny! Nothing funny about her now... the Kool Aid poisoning has left her pathetic.

[bluethruandthru]

113. No...they're not like Hannity.

Hannity flat out lies. I don't think Ed, Stephanie and Randi do. They have strong opinions but they're not lying about Clinton.

[krawhitham]

18. Yeah it is just the whole world against Hillary

Ever think that maybe Hillary might be the problem?

[JuniperLea]

30. IF it were the whole world against her, you'd be right...

But, no.

[Stinky The Clown]

46. Y'ever think maybe I'm pissed off about bullshit being peddled as news and that it has nothing .....

..... to do with candidates?

Not everything is a candidate post ...... Ever think of that?

[Asgaya Dihi]

118. Kitchen sink

I don't like the news these days either but I'm damned well not going to blame a victim for it. It wasn't like this before that kitchen sink strat came out and it never had to be like this at all. Hillary is the one who wants to keep pushing things like the wright story under the excuse of "vetting" and she's cried vetting from the start, then she wants to whine and cry when she's caught in a baldfaced lie herself.

What, only the other candidate gets vetted? That wasn't supposed to apply to her?

And no, I don't, or didn't, much care for either candidate myself. She's a scorched earth corporate tool and friend to the repubs who will take this nation in the exact opposite direction it needs to go and on most issues he isn't too different in position, just lacks the scorched earth and repub ties. But, I also worry that he can't change the world through force of personality so will just break the kids hearts and turn them off from politics. Not much to choose from between them for me, or there wasn't.

Up until the last couple of weeks I not only didn't support either but I kinda disliked both. Still do, but I do know who to dislike more and who to blame more. The one who decided that the kitchen sink was appropriate, the one who is attacking another dem with more energy and more ferocity than I remember EVER being pointed at the opposition party by the same candidate. She likes them more than us. Once he was hit with it again and again it got dirty on both sides, yeah. But only one of them made that choice and stuck to it so left the other no choice. It was a clean campaign up until that point.

If she doesn't like the news coverage maybe she should stop with the lies, the swiftboating, and the kitchen sink strat long enough to remember how dems are supposed to treat dems. As far as I can tell she's confused about what party she's supposed to support in this election, and that's the deciding factor between them for me. The news is covering that news and I'd say it is worth the coverage. It's not every day you see the attempted homicide of a major political party by one of its own.

[Stinky The Clown]

125. The fact is, Clinton needs to drop out of the race

But that doesn't change the fact that the media is fanning the flames as much as anyone else .... and maybe more.

It isn't helping.

[Asgaya Dihi]

133. I can understand your point

but I'd disagree. We follow the news close so we're sick of it, I'm sick of it at least. But according to a post I saw earlier today the polls show real confusion over who is responsible for what and as many dems in a telephone survey saying Obama should drop out as Clinton.

I would like to see the news shift from the fire and smoke to the reasons behind it but the last thing I'd want to see is her coming out of this with any great number of dems thinking she was screwed out of the nomination by the media rather than by her own tactics. Clear that up so we're all on the same page and we'll get good turnout this November, leave people thinking she's robbed rather than blew it and many stay home in protest. It's an issue we aren't done with yet. The coverage could improve no doubt but it shouldn't under any circumstance end until we've got the facts.

Make sense?

[samdogmom]

48. Thanks! My sentiments exactly.

Every time I see a post dissing Keith or another good open-minded reporter, I want to scream: "If the vast majority of Democratic opinion leaders are on a different page...is it the vast majority or is it you?"

Give me a break...Keith has always been a bright spot in the dismal TV correspondent pool. Don't write him off just because he hasn't joined the Hillary bandwagon. Instead, take a step back and ask yourself why you aren't seeing what Keith is seeing. You may learn something!

Edited for spelling.

[anamandujano]

91. Except she has half the voters.

Deal.

[VolcanoJen]

97. Half the voters?

Give or take, what, 600,000 voters or so?

I call Fuzzy Math!

[anamandujano]

103. When we are talking about millions, your figure is pathetic.

[VolcanoJen]

107. Every vote counts, and you know that.

She's behind in pledged delegates and the popular vote. She has little to zero chance of surpassing Obama in either.

Parse numbers all you'd like, move the goalposts to fit your narrative arc. Or, join the reality-based community. It really is that simple.

[anamandujano]

115. If you all are so confident about Obama's chances, why the frantic

calls for Hillary to step down, since New Hampshire?

Don't give me that good for the party crap. Obama has alienated enough of the Dem base to assure a defeat if he makes it to the GE. He will also get hit with more Rezko and more Wright type scandals.

He hasn't been vetted by a long shot.

[VolcanoJen]

123. I don't think she should leave until it becomes impossible by the numbers.

She hasn't been vetted by a long shot, either. As evidenced by, you know, this week.

There isn't a damned thing wrong with her continuing until at least the IN/NC primary. By then, it will become clear to all that it's a convention floor brawl, or a concession speech.

"Don't Give Me That 'Good For The Party' Crap." Duly noted.

[The Gunslinger]

88. Unfortunately it is true.

I work on the road all day long and get to listen to Stephanie, Ed Schultz, and some Rhandi all day and it is true. I am not a Hillary supporter, and will have a very hard time voting for her if she wins, but the 3 hour bash sessions by the few left wing talk show hosts out there is terrible for the cause. Let the right wing media have their say about Hillary. 3 hours of radio shows, and almost nothing about McCain misleading Americans about AlQuida, and needing people whispering in his ear telling him what to say. Almost nothing about Cheney's heartless comments about the 4,000 dead.

[mzmolly]

168. It's because it's not possible for her to win.

If Obama were in her situation and visa versa, we'd see the same frustration toward him. I'd be among the frustrated.

[MadHound]

5. Let me guess, if he was pointing out lies and mistakes made by Obama

You would be rooting him on, right?

[JuniperLea]

32. No, only Obama supporters are that shallow...

[MadHound]

37. Really?!

Then explain to me why KO was a god around here when he was going after Bush, and not going after any Dem nominee? But soon as he started exposing Hillary's lies and bullshit, all the sudden all the Hillary supporters got pissed.

You can say believe what you want, but the rest of us prefer to dwell in the reality base world.

[Stinky The Clown]

49. Not everybody who got pissed is a Hillary supporter

I actually dislike Hillary.

My bitch is the stupidity of it and the overall harm it is doing to Democrats in general.

Not everyone is an asswipe candidate cultist, yanno.

[JuniperLea]

165. Oh sure... the Kool Aid poisoning world?

I think both Obama and Clinton are vile and dangerous. This just gives me more resolve... it proves the poisoning theory... it's the Donald Sutherland "point and scream" effect... I'm not a Hillary supporter any more than I'm an Obama supporter.

[RazBerryBeret]

67. Shallow?

oddly, a new Gallup poll shows 28 percent of Clinton's supporters would back McCain should the New York senator lose her quest for the Democratic nomination.
That compares to the 19 percent of Obama supporters who say they will favor McCain should Clinton be the party’s nominee.

hmmm...who's the kool aid-drinkin' sore losers?

[JuniperLea]

164. You mistake me for a Hillary supporter...

I voted for Edwards before he threw in the towel because I think both Obama and Hillary are dangerous and vile.

Funny how the Kool Aid swillers will bring out polls to "prove" their point, yet adamantly deny the veracity of any poll that goes against their poisoned beliefs.

I believe no polls... especially those that are merely quoted and not linked.

[RazBerryBeret]

169. Sorry, my mistake....

it was an easy one to make, you seem so bitter and nasty.

ummm.....I'm NOT a kool aid drinker. I would've voter for Edwards had he NOT dropped out before Ohio.
and since I stated "gallup poll" I thought it would be a relatively easy find, but I generally am guilty of giving people the benefit of the doubt.

Link: http://www.gallup.com/
(it's on the home page)

[Stinky The Clown]

47. You would be wrong, Assumption Maker

I could care less who he's dissing. My complaint is the petty nature of it and the relentlessness.

[melody]

52. Of course they would! lol

Keith quite accurately pounds on ALL the candidates. Everyone on DU at some time or another has been certain
he was "against" THEIR nominee. Keith isn't supporting Obama, he's holding to the flame the feet of the
candidate trying to get away with the most bullshit. Since Clinton's the one going down, she's the one fighting
hardest. I suspect her supporters see the "sniper fire" the same way Hillary did -- because they want it to be there.

[anamandujano]

94. He could try it occasionally. There are plenty of Obama lies and mistakes

to fill a few evenings.

[Beaverhausen]

6. I can't watch him anymore. Its really sad

I used to love his show, and I'm sure will watch again in the future. But he is way over the top.

He should be targeting McCain now, not one of our candidates.

[UALRBSofL]

14. Beaver I feel the same way as well.

And you have to wonder why Fox leads in viewers in that time slot. He is opposite of Bill O'Reilly in the same time slot. I hope in the near future Rachael Maddow takes over his time slot. She would be a great commentator for MSNBC.

[AX10]

17. There are two sides to Maddow.

On her radio show, she is fairly objective and more inclined to give HRC credit where it is due.
On GENBC, she is all for Obama, granted she is much more polite than those mediawhores Matthews, Olbermann, and Mitchell, still she shows bias for Obama while on MSNBC.

[LisaM]

23. So perhaps MSNBC is part of the problem.

I think they still haven't forgiven her for the Shuster thing. Never mind that a so-called journalist subbed on an OPINION show and made a comment that showed his command of the language is relatively minimal!

I also realized that Keith is probably a sexist. He comes from the sports world. As a big time sports fan myself, believe me, I know. I love football, but get a little tired of seeing a bunch of slutty women wiggling their asses all the time during the game. And that's just the thin end of the wedge.

[Justitia]

33. IRONY ALERT: You call KO "sexist" & then complain about "slutty women" in sports - LOL. -eom

[LisaM]

45. No, I report it as I see it! LOLOL.

I'm not being ironic. Those woman detract from the sporting even and they also don't lead cheers, despite being called cheerleaders. Why are they even there? Just to strut their stuff.

So, maybe I shouldn't have said slutty, but yuck, just yuck.

[UALRBSofL]

64. AX10 actually these past 2 weeks she seems pretty equal to both

She seems to have gotten better about that or maybe is it just me???

[AX10]

76. I believe that she will fully support the nominee.

As another poster said, the problem may lay with MSNBC.

[Stinky The Clown]

51. I'd rather she took over the slot Gregory got from the Carlson boy.

Olbermann is, in my view, more tolerable on his worst day than Gregory is on any day.\

Or Matthews. But I think he has nude shots of the GE chairman getting laid with a tag team of goats.

[eShirl]

16. "He should be targeting McCain now, not one of our candidates."

exactly...
Why is Hillary still in the race again?

[joeprogressive]

66. "He should be targeting McCain now, not one of our candidates"

Now insert she in that statement and you have, "She should be targeting McCain now, not one of our candidates". Pretty ironic huh?

[dchill]

69. If you'd watched tonight...

you'd have seen that he DID target McCain. And Walmart. And FoxNews.

[stevenleser]

132. A couple of days ago he named McCain "Today's worst person in the world!"

I would say that is targeting McCain. Course, Olberman didn't throw the kitchen sink at McCain so maybe Hillbots are so desensitized to anything less than total and all out war that they didn't understand what he did was targeting...

[tridim]

70. He destroys McCain almost every night.

You're missing it because you don't watch.

[Irishonly]

116. i haven't watched in a while

I don't think he has gone to any side. I don't think he is promoting Obama. I just want to hear more news. The bashing is all over the internet and all over the cable news. I used to enjoy his show when he was spot on with the war coverage, Bush's crimes and tricks republicans pulled. I will be thrilled when the nominee is decided and we won't have everyone talking about who did what to whom all day long.

[The Straight Story]

119. And people here should be doing the same

:)

[tammywammy]

7. Good thing it wasn't all Clinton

He's talking about McCain right now.

[Medusa]

9. He ain't my fav but he can Hill bash all he wants too.

:evilgrin:

[Justitia]

11. Don't worry, Dan Abrams is on right after him & he's totally in the tank for Clinton. -eom

[movonne]

21. Yes but Stepanie Miller is going to be on his show...

[Diane R]

12. I love listening to Olberman...he's got it right; Hillary keeps shooting herself in the foot.

[TheDonkey]

13. Yep, that's why he's talking about McCain right now......

All Clinton All the Time

:sarcasm:

[Melinda]

15. I *heart* Keith

When he calls Bush on his bullshit, everyone on DU is behind KO. But when he calls bullshit on anyone of the candidates, some of those candidates supporters become unhinged.

I watched Dan Abrams last night for the first time... he ripped Obama repeatedly, and I didn't cry once.

KO called out Ferraro and Clinton and some people can't see past the fact that he did. Not my problem. And if Obama starts the bullshit, I hope KO calls him out on it too.

I'll always :loveya: Keith.

[UALRBSofL]

22. I think the commentators on MSNBC should concentrate there efforts

on challenging the credibility of McCain and other republicans in local and state races.

[Melinda]

43. I agree 100%, however as long as our party continues this fight, McCain wins.

The MSM has no need to cover McCain; he's already won and there is no drama there. They are more interested in Clinton vs Obama the train wreck. The days of real news are over, and it's all about entertainment, wheeee!! :woohoo:

[anamandujano]

101. Newsflash! They are Repukes. They are paid by GE. How deluded are you

anyway?

[JuniperLea]

19. As I just said in another thread...

This dumbass sports reporter is quickly losing all the credibility he gained over the past couple of years.

Your mustache analogy is perfect!

[Catherine Vincent]

24. I can't wait when he starts hating on Obama

His supporters here are goanna get pissed at him big time.

[anamandujano]

105. Our consolation prize, but a sweet one if events go that way.

The constant MSM trashing didn't work against Gore, didn't work against Kerry, and won't work against Hillary.

Imagine where she would be with an even playing field.

[eridani]

139. Really? Why isn't Kerry now running to succeed President Gore? n/t

[TriplePlay]

25. Hillary Supporters - Take off the blinders

She is still LYING about the incident. She says TODAY that she met the one girl and ran inside. There is video of her with a whole class. She is a habitual liar and unelectable. If she is the nominee the democrats might as well sign off the next eight years. This is the worst campaign Ive seen in my life.

She will get torn apart in the GE - Imagine the continuous loop of her ceremony with the children on the tarmac.

It's time to get a Democrat elected.

[RepublicanElephant]

26. keith just blasted the immorality of wal-mart.

and that's good enough for me!

[TheDonkey]

29. KO is dead to Clinton supporters because he refuses to ignore her immoral slime and lies

[anamandujano]

106. Doesn't Mrs. Obama still work there?

[tammywammy]

136. She never worked at Wal-Mart

She worked for a company that sold pickles to Wal-Mart and she no longer works for that company.

Hillary actually worked for Wal-Mart in the past.

[ksoze]

27. He disappoints

with his obama cheerleading squad of regulars who remind me of the SNL skit with Phil Hartman playing Sinatra and his Steve Lawrence and Edie Gormey hanger ons during The Sinatra Group sketch.

[FrenchieCat]

28. He's just not supporting the dumbshit from your candidate that you claim

is not your candidate.

It's OK.....you can admit it, if you haven't. It's very clear at this point.

But KO is balancing out the rest of the MSM who just did Obama an injustice with that over the top "what his pastor said" bullshit that we had to watch for 2 weeks.

[Stinky The Clown]

53. You're dead assed wrong, Frenchie.

I don't like either one of them.

[high density]

72. You don't like either one of them...

So you're staying here just to antagonize us, or what? :shrug:

What real news did you want him to cover today? I just scanned the headlines on MSNBC and it looked like a pretty slow news day to me. Maybe you'd be better off with PBS' News Hour or something.

[Sparkly]

75. Yeah, Stinky...

How dare you even BE here without a pom-pom in one hand and a machete in the other! :rofl:

[high density]

77. Well this is the primaries forum

So I think it's a valid question. Most people here at least only shit on one candidate. I don't think we need people that shit on both of them out of spite, beg for Olbermann to shit on Obama, beg for him to ignore Clinton gaffes, or whatever. I just don't get it.

[Stinky The Clown]

82. You don't get it?

Then put me on ignore. I'm probably too smart for you to understand.

The ignore will save you the frustration of trying to glean my meanings.

[high density]

90. Yes you are simply way too brilliant for me to even begin to comprehend

your rants.

I guess it's easier to insult my intelligence than respond to my argument.

[Stinky The Clown]

80. How about MIMS' confab with the brass at the five sided war palace?

I bet you missed that, too, being all candidate goofy and shit like you are.

They're gunna bring troop levels down to the 'pre-surge' 140,000.

He also got told that if we don't draw down in Iraq, we can't respond to another (real) emergency elsewhere.

That kinda newz ..... yanno?

[high density]

89. Well the people on DU don't control Olbermann's editorial decisions

And if you already have the news you want, what in the heck are you bitching about?

They were talking about 140k troops back in late February. Maybe Olbermann didn't feel like retreading month old news.

[Stinky The Clown]

92. Okay, now you're getting silly

Stop before you get stupid, too.

Thanks for the Google tip, Jimmy Olson.

[high density]

102. I'm honestly sad to see you so rude

I don't know what I did to spurn these stupidity comments. I seem to recall we were both on the same side back in the Clark days but now you have nothing to say to me but "you're stupid."

Oh well. I didn't think my post in this thread was going to generate this sort of response, and I'm sorry I made it.

[Stinky The Clown]

121. Hahahaha

Edit your replies then go all passive aggressive .....

[high density]

147. I edited one reply before I knew you responded to it

The edit did nothing but remove a reference to searching Google news for 140000, which you insulted me for anyway.

[LittleClarkie]

31. So, was he a hack when it was Bush he was hacking?

I suspect he was not. You merely disagree with him at this time.

He'll be Murrow reincarnated again as soon as he gets a target you agree with.

I love how some people ride the roller coaster. He's a hack, he's a genius, he's a hack again.

Bah.

[Stinky The Clown]

56. Pretty free with reading your own meaning into another person's post

Because I criticize the endless, petty coverage of Clinton's gaffes and lies and "misspeaks" that makes me a Clinton supporter?

You might be all black and white about the campaigns. I'm not. I don't like either one of them. I defended your guy when PreacherCrap hit. That was unfair and made up and meaningless, too. But you musta missed that.

Keep your knee in check. It jerks sometimes ...... I'm just sayin'.

[LittleClarkie]

61. Sorry about that.

I just get sick of the trashing of good people, on both sides.

I defended Murtha. And Joe Wilson is a good man. And obviously I used to be a Clark person. None of these people deserves being trashed because they support Hillary.

And neither do Kerry, Kennedy, Richardson, Olbermann, et al.

These people are not trash because we disagree with them. That's all I'm saying really.

Sorry I aimed that at the wrong target.

[rjbrooks]

34. Olberman

It sure seems the only people invited on KO's show are the Hillary bashers (Dana Milbank, Jonithan Alter, Margaret Carlson) As a lifelong democrat active in the County Democratic Party who fully intends to support our candidate whoever it is, I am getting really turned off by this.

[Stinky The Clown]

57. That is ***exactly*** how I feel.

[NYCGirl]

98. He had those very same people on his show before the primaries started.

I guess you hated him back then, too.

[totodeinhere]

100. That's why you have a remote control.

You can change the channel. He runs a news commentary show and he and his producers can run the show anyway they like. And their viewers can either watch it or turn it off.

Oh and BTW, KO has the highest rated show on MSNBC and he is enjoying the best ratings his show has ever had.

[tammywammy]

35. Oh good Abrams is on

Oops, he's starting off with Clinton and all her "misstatements"

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

36. To the KO Bashers...

Keith Olberman

Randi Rhodes
Ed Schultz
Thom Hartmann
Rachel Maddow
Stephanie Miller

Just about everybody in the liberal media has no patience with Hillary any more. Don't go blaming Keith.

[LittleClarkie]

39. John Kerry, Teddy Kennedy, Bill Richardson

It's amazing who become losers and idiots as soon as they endorse someone other than Hillary. Suddenly they're not true Dems, or in the case of the media, they become hacks, even though on other subject we agree with them.

[Stinky The Clown]

60. Hey Knee Jerker .....

.... read this ...... then tell me what you were saying ..........

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=5193627

[LittleClarkie]

63. Read my response under your comment

.

[fliesincircles]

158. These guys ACTUALLY voted on NAFTA

How do you think they voted.

[Buzz Clik]

42. Bingo.

[Stinky The Clown]

58. And it is all just as tiresome

[intheozone]

38. I think he has it in for Hillary since she complained about

what's his name that made the remark about her pimping out Chelsea. He has gotten really bad, hard to watch him anymore. I'm now kinda' sorry that I bought his book.

[ksoze]

68. David Shuster

and I agree that seemed like a turning point for the beginning of his hate club.

[Cheap_Trick]

40. then stop watching

you fucking dingleberrys

[Catherine Vincent]

54. We have. nt

[Cheap_Trick]

156. not the ones who are still whining about it n/t

[Buzz Clik]

41. It's not just Olbermann. Look around. Every pundit once identified as "liberal" is now anti-Hillary.

It's not a conspiracy, folks. It's people observing, thinking, analyzing, and coming to a rational conclusion.

[CitizenLeft]

71. honest to God... Jesus!

Do people actually think that there's some kind of Anti-Hillary Conspiracy, where Rhodes, Olbermann - those two don't even know each other - and all the superdelegates who support Obama - Kennedy, Daschle, Kerry, Pelosi - meet in some deep dark secret place every Friday night at midnight, wear funny hats and dip chickens in blood, to plot Hillary Clinton's downfall? WTF is this? They are speaking out because - and I'll throw that really malleable can't-think-for-himself-"hack" Mike Malloy into this mix - they SEE what's she's doing, her poisonous campaign tactics, and are CALLING HER OUT FOR IT because it's destroying the party. I don't understand what it is that people can't see about that! Malloy bashes Obama ALL THE TIME, but he sees very clearly how nasty she has run this campaign and he says so - every night. Is he a hack too? Is he in on the great Hate Hillary conspiracy too?

[Cosmocat]

74. Put me in that camp ...

I have always stuck up for Hill ... Coming into this, I was a Wes Clark guy, then when he didn't come in, I was kind of open, maybe leaning toward Obama as it went ... But, a D who would definitely support any candidate ...

And, Hill has just just wore out every last bit of patience I have ... I have alwasy said that the right wing hates her and Bill so much because they run like Rs, and beat them at their game ... Well, this campaign has proven that out with no doubt ...

Flat lies, disembling, parsing, bullying, spinning ...

It just is a disgrace ...

[melody]

50. Keith Olbermann tells the truth -- if you can't stand the heat ...

Hillary Clinton has every bit of this coming -- and more.

[Stinky The Clown]

62. If **I** can't stand the heat?

I said she ought to drop out of the race. Yesterday.

You're jumping to conclusions due to your CandidateCult induced blindness.

[melody]

78. *I'm* jumping to conclusions? LMAO! I'm not even a cultist

My nominee was Edwards. My only interest now is preserving the DEMOCRATIC PARTY.

Husb2Sparkly, you've been a vocal Clinton proponent for months now. You might have accepted reality,
but you still have your opinions.

All I want is any candidate OTHER than a Clinton ... it's the same way I felt in 1992, too.

[Stinky The Clown]

84. Show me a pattern of supporting Clinton.

C'mon ..... show me the posts that lead you to your false conclusion.

Remember ..... a **pattern** of long standing ...... not a single post or two.

[melody]

114. I'm PM'ing you three -- there are dozens more - anyone who wants to see them, PM me

I can't link directly to them because that's against DU rules.

You've clothed your Clinton support in attacking Obama and his supporters, but it's very clear you're a Clinton person
from the first.

[Stinky The Clown]

120. No, that would be your assumption

To do what you're doing is stretching it ..... a lot.

I do, indeed, dislike Obama. No secret there.

But ya know what ..... I'll work for him if he wins.

By the way, did you find where I called for Clinton to drop out of the race? "Supporters" don't usually do that.

[melody]

122. Several high profile Clinton supporters have called for her to drop out

So yes, supporters do that all the time.

I will vote for ANY Democrat who wins nomination.

You are choosing to attack Obama supporters with epithets like "cultists". You aren't helping matters -- you
are hurting them with that kind of attitude.

[Stinky The Clown]

127. Cultists

Is how many act.

I'm hardly the first to say that or use that word.

[melody]

129. Continuing the epithet doesn't help matters

Perhaps some are cultists. Or perhaps they seem like cultists to you because they have enthusiasm for a viable
candidate that we don't. Most are just people like you and me -- they're Democrats. Democrats aren't the enemy.

[Condem]

126. C'mon Husb2Sparkly

How is she going to win this thing?

[grasswire]

96. there are members of DU who attempt to stop the attacks on Hillary...

..not because they are her supporters but because the attacks are hurting the party and our chances in the GE. D'oh. Stinky is one of many here.

[totodeinhere]

104. No problem as long as you are also trying to stop the attacks...

on Obama that are hurting the party.

[melody]

110. "Sparky" called me a "cultist" for disagreeing about Clinton - how does this help?

I have every right to express my rage over what this individual is doing to my party.

Sparky (and you, by defending Sparky) is carrying on personal attacks against DUers.

[grasswire]

138. baloney

and that's being polite (I never was in the Navy).

[melody]

142. That's a personal attack not a refutation

And it's as unsupported an argument as the DU pack mindset seems to prefer these days.

[JoFerret]

55. He has blown any chance to actually matter

.

[NashVegas]

59. I Was Never Really That Into Him In the First Place

He did something about a year ago I thought was just great, otherwise, he's a showman - as much as Bill O and Rush are showmen. And he's got a schtick I'd be into if I really wanted a showman.

Ever notice how they never brought back Phil Donohue?

[backscatter712]

73. Why are you still supporting that pathological liar?

What do you see in Clinton after she lied to our faces multiple times? She's almost as bad as Bush.

You're still supporting her to the point of flaming Keith Olbermann?

Talk about delusional.

[Stinky The Clown]

87. "Flaming" (hahahaha) KO is not the same as supporting Clinton.

But make up any shit in your mind that you want to. Don't let facts get in your way.

[NoodleyAppendage]

79. Hillary, not Keith, Jumped the Shark MONTHS AGO.

You just can't stand it that he's not the typical MSM lapdog for the Clintons. I suggest you stick with Blitzer as his head is so far up her ass that it's unclear which is talking when she opens her mouth.

J

[bridgit]

86. BREAKING NEWS: KO eats own demographics for breakfast w/milk & brown sugar

buttered, 9 grain toast & jam :9

[anamandujano]

111. Ha!

:thumbsup:

[barack the house]

93. No not like Obama has had any bad press. Have you seen the Bill Clinton endorsement of McCain...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OphAcf3Ml4&eurl=http://www.johnmccain.com/pathtovictory/democrats.htm?s=google&t=electability

[Tatiana]

95. I don't think it's a big deal. He's followed by Dan Abrams who is very pro-Clinton. n/t

[Coexist]

109. you are correct, Abrams is silly for Clinton.

[Condem]

99. Husb2Sparkly

Your opinion. How is she going to win the nomination?

[Stinky The Clown]

128. Condom

I think she should drop out.

I've been saying that for a while.

Don't you feel silly for asking me that question?

[Condem]

130. My mistake.

I'm red-faced.

[Condem]

131. My mistake.

I'm red-faced.

[KansasVoter]

117. I love Olbermann more every day. And when the time comes he will tear up McCain!

[my3boyz]

137. Keep up the great job Keith!

[DeepModem Mom]

140. He devoted the first 27 minutes of "Countdown" tonight to trashing Hillary.

Now I'm an Obama supporter -- and I expect KO to have a serious place in the history of our country. I'm not touting Clinton or turning against KO. I am turning against his using half of his hour to trash Hillary, when she has been trashed on MSNBC the previous three hours by Tweety, et al. I know MSNBC is now "the place for politics," but IMO we need, and expect, more from Keith. He's so much better than the rest of the MSNBC line-up. And Bush is not gone yet, Cheney is still in office.

And if KO objects to tearing down a potential Dem nominee? It's not probable, but it's possible that Hillary will be that nominee, and not Barack. Anything can happen. Is it okay, then, to destroy her?

I don't question KO's sincerity. He quite obviously detests Hillary, or is a very good actor. He quite obviously thinks her danger to our country is at this point greater than the danger from a still-in-office Bush (or a potentially elected McCain), or he wouldn't lead his show with her every night.

Or -- I don't want to think, but I don't dismiss the possibility, that his bashing Hillary is to some degree simply ratings-driven: substituting her as the villain his show format needs, as a replacement for the outgoing Bush.

Maybe ratings will soar from a groundswell of Hillary hatred. Or, maybe viewers will just get tired of the same thing on MSNBC, the same Hillary hits over and over, even if they're coming from the great KO.

[babylonsister]

144. Perhaps in your trying to be so middle-of-the-road, 'Mom,

you don't recognize that Clinton has invited the criticism. It's odd because I think he speaks the truth.
What has she done to elevate her right to be prez besides trying to tear her Dem opponent down? Their platforms are pretty similar, so it does get down to personalities sometimes.

[DeepModem Mom]

145. I'm sorry we disagree on this race...

babylonsister. Our posting here side by side is a joy to me, and our supporting each other from time to time a treasure.

The fact is, I have some personal connections, and some personal feelings, that affect my view of the Clinton family, and I also have loved ones I live with and respect, my immediate family, who are divided in support of both candidates. (I also have a dear, dear friend who is as passionate in her opposition to Hillary as you are, and has sent some sparks flying my way more than once, but our common support of Obama sees us through pretty well.)

I respect both your commitment to what we all hope for for our country, and your opinion. We need your strong stand, and your posts supporting it. I see myself not so much as middle-of-the-road as maybe a bit of a peacemaker, here and in "real life" (and also as a hopeless news-junkie passer-on of news, just as it comes from the source). And maybe that's okay, too, I'm hoping.

[Shakespeare]

155. WRONG. I have it on DVR, and just checked.

The first 15 minutes were spent on the following:

1. An update on what BOTH candidates did today;
2. A report on the current delegate status, with analysis of the various possibilities (and some analysis of the implications of the letter to Pelosi);
3. An analysis of the NBC/WSJ poll released yesterday.

No Hillary bashing there.

After the commercial break, he then devoted seven minutes to analysis of the fallout from Hillary's Bosnia fabrication. After that he went on to approximately 10 minutes on unflattering coverage of McCain.

27 minutes? Not even close.

The Bosnia lie--and it WAS a lie--deserves coverage. It's newsworthy, and he's covered it fairly.

I am sick to death of seeing Olbermann and other commentators ON OUR SIDE being trashed here because they dare to utter a critical word about Hillary (and the suggestion that he's not also been critical of Obama when it's called for is absurd). It's disgusting.

**The usual disclaimer that I'm neither a Hillary supporter nor an Obama supporter, but was an Edwards supporter who will support the eventual nominee.

[DeepModem Mom]

159. I considered the coverage of both candidates to be in the category...

of negative coverage for Clinton, just in the way it was reported. I'm not bashing Olbermann. He's a great hero to me. What I'm doing is voicing my own personal opinion that I wish he hadn't gone off in this direction, of, IMO, covering one of our candidates very differently from the way he covers the other.

And, repeating my disclaimer, I do support a candidate, Obama, though I'm not as negative toward Clinton as others.

Also, when I watch tonight (if I can), if I take note of story time within the hour, I'll pay close attention. I appreciate your informative post, and your opinion.

[Shakespeare]

160. Your opinion grossly misrepresents the broadcast, though.

You may not have liked the way it made Hillary look, but it was thorough analysis that covered BOTH candidates.

I don't mean to unload on just you, but it galls me to see people on DU turning on Olbermann and anyone else who dares to criticize Hillary. He's been tough on Obama, too (his post-TX/OH coverage was really scathing, and for several days thereafter portrayed the Obama camp as inept, which they kinda were for a time).

He's been tough on both of them, but I don't think he's ever been unfair. One of the things that has always set center-left journalists apart from the howler monkeys on the right is that they're just as quick to criticize their own side when events warrant it, and I happen to think that's a healthy and admirable thing. That's part of what makes us BETTER than the other side, and it just kills me to see the venom directed at Olbermann (and Maddow and Ed Schultz, etc. etc. etc.) in this forum.

edited to add: Just so I'm completely fair on this--it also pisses me off to see the Obama supporters turn on Krugman (of all people!). :banghead:

[DeepModem Mom]

161. I'm sorry, Shakespeare --

I promise to look at tonight's show, or the next one I'm able to watch, and try to see it through your eyes. I know how it feels to be terribly frustrated at something you feel is just dead wrong.

[Shakespeare]

162. It's both sides that are making me batty right now.

I think the Hillary supporters have a slightly longer list of center-left journalists they now consider personae non grata, but both sides are guilty of overreacting and being a little too sensitive about criticism directed at their candidates.

We FINALLY have reached a point where the media isn't completely dominated by right and center-right journalists, and we should be just a little more supportive and protective of them.

Salon.com, one of my favorite news sources for over 10 years, was openly nasty to Edwards in their coverage (although Walter Shapiro did some nice pieces on him), but I didn't write them off and cancel my subscription. It's just the way things go. :pals:

[DeepModem Mom]

163. And I'm obviously still watching KO!

Have fun in Hollywood -- I visit out there quite a bit, and I LOVE IT!

B-)

[babylonsister]

143. Wow. Coming from you, I find this odd. Or not. I still believe him,

and trust him, whether you do or not.

[susankh4]

153. Keith's gone over the deep end.... poor thing.

At least there's still Joe! And he's gaining credibility all the time.

[dchill]

157. Those who say that Olbermann has jumped the shark...

have jumped the shark.

[Unbowed]

167. He goes after evildoers.

If Clinton is behaving badly she's gonna hear it from KO. Wal-Mart is being taken to the woodshed tonight...second night in a row...and he just vowed to keep on their ass till they repent.