Philadelphia’s largest gay political group endorses Hillary:

[cboy4]

Dem presidential hopefuls battle for gay votes in Pa.

By LOU CHIBBARO JR., Washington Blade

Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton won the endorsement of the Liberty City Democratic Club, Philadelphia’s largest gay political group.

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The Clinton endorsement by the Liberty City gay Democratic group came a few weeks after a gay Pittsburgh group, the Steel City Democrats, also gave its endorsement to Clinton.


“We are proud to endorse Senator Hillary Clinton in this important primary cycle,” said Matthew Woodcock, a spokesperson for the Liberty City group. “Her record of accomplishment is proof positive that she’ll be a fighter for the LGBT community in the White House and that’s what we need.”


Tobias Wolff, a University of Pennsylvania Law School professor and head of Obama’s gay campaign steering committee, acknowledged that Obama is the underdog in the Pennsylvania primary and that Clinton appears to have the support of the state’s established gay groups.

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[TheDonkey]

1. Yes the Clinton record of DADT and DOMA. Cool, I cannot wait!

[cboy4]

3. Yea, I can tell you lose a lot of sleep over LGBT civil rights.

[JoFerret]

5. Other people always know what's best for gays

Doncha know.

What's your problem? Don't you enjoy being patronized? Obammy not cute enough for you?

[leftofcool]

2. Excellent, thank you

[quickesst]

4. Gee...

who would have thunk it? Gay, corporate loving racists. Will Obama supporters start attacking the gay community? You bet, if it serves their purposes. If you haven't noticed, they will attack, and magically transform anyone who does not kneel at the alter of Obama into the very thing they have used thus far, in order to insure a victory. Logic, and Obalogic, the ultimate oxymoron. Thanks.
quickesst

[mattclearing]

8. Ridiculous.

The gay community is free to support whom they choose. The simple fact that people think it is against their best interest does not constitute an attack. No one on DU is attacking the gay community.

[roughsatori]

17. The "Gay Community" is not a monolithic group.

We Gays are not all the same. Using the term "Gay Community" leads to heterosexual people thinking (and MSM promoting) all GLBT people think, act, dress, and talk alike. We don't.

Some heterosexuals laugh at us--that all gays own Cher, and Barbara Streisand CDs, and watch "Will and Grace." I do not do. Yet, some gay people do. Shit, my heterosexual Christian Sister-in-law loves Cher, Streisand, and "Will and Grace." She still can't believe that I, as a gay man can not tolerate those CDs or, even worse, that odious TV show, "Will and Grace."

Imagine, reading a serious post where a DUer offhandedly wondered why "ALL straight people love war, poverty, and have children that they refuse to take care of." The absurdity would be obvious and the post deleted.

[mattclearing]

27. Didn't mean to imply that I thought that.

In this particular case, a gay leadership endorsement is being seen as representative of gay individuals' political leanings.

But the poster I responded to seemed to think all Obama supporters were going to start attacking gays because of this, which is ridiculous. I'd think you'd find their comment more offensive than mine.

[boppers]

6. Welcome to DOMA, and separate but equal.

Yay.


(fight my ass)

[Smarmie Doofus]

7. It would have helped had he fleshed this part out a little:

>>“We are proud to endorse Senator Hillary Clinton in this important primary cycle,” said Matthew Woodcock, a spokesperson for the Liberty City group. “Her record of accomplishment is proof positive that she’ll be a fighter for the LGBT community in the White House and that’s what we need.”>>>

"Record of accomplishment" ? Specifics please.

"proof positive", etc. ? Sound like his evidentiary threshhold is a bit low...to put it mildly.

But maybe not; let's hear about that record of accomplishment.

[cboy4]

11. Yea, to be honest....I'm not sure what the record of

accomplishment is either, per se.

But one thing is clear in my opinion:

She'd be more trustworthy than Obama.

[NJSecularist]

13. Based on what? Hillary and trustworthy don't belong in the same sentence.

Hillary is about as trustworthy as Richard Nixon.

[cboy4]

14. My point is I believe you're going to get what you get

with Hillary.

I'm not defending her as some great LGBT advocate.

But Obama, on the other hand, has already displayed he will throw gays under the proverbial bus if it's politically advantageous.

I believe he'd do it again in the White House, despite any of the promises and/or pledges he's made.

[Umbram]

24. You forgot to add

"But I'm an Edwards supporter."

[cboy4]

25. I know.....I keep forgetting so many people here keep

calling me a Hillary voter.

They're so wrong with their information, they'd be qualified to work for FOX News.

[indimuse]

9. thx!

k&r!!

[AllentownJake]

10. Well

As long as they endorse the democratic presidential nominee...I could give a shit who they endorse in the primary.

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[susankh4]

15. The politically savvy always

tend to back her.

They recognize and empty suit when they see it.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

20. That's A Non Sequitur But I Think You Know That

Why would a savvy person back an incompetent person for any position?

[cd3dem]

16. This is a great boost for Hillary! The GLBT community knows who will work for them!

Hillary Clinton has always worked for human rights and the GLBT knows the difference between talk and action!

[phrigndumass]

18. A lot of us were heartbroken with President Clinton

And I have to admit, that's why I am hesitant to trust that Senator Clinton would do much for our community. We worked hard for Bill Clinton in 1992 and 1996 on the hope that he would make good on his promises to the GLBT community. Most of his promises fell by the wayside after he was elected.

DOMA was mostly a republican effort, but "Don't ask, don't tell, don't pursue" was original with Bill Clinton. And after eight years in office, the quote that still haunts me is "I wish I could have done more."

I say good for Senator Clinton, and good for the Liberty City Democratic Club, but don't place bets on much positive coming out of this.

:hi:

[Creideiki]

19. Actually, DADT was courtesy of Sam Nunn

It was a compromise between the overtly hostile environment in the military in the 80s (when I was serving) and the people who recognized that it really isn't impacting military readiness. At the time, it was, "I know the Israelis allow gays in their military, and they're one of the best fighting forces in the world, but we're more modeled on the British who don't allow it." Then when the British allowed open service, it was, "We're really not modeled on the British after all."

Through it all was the recurring theme of, "We can't use the military to perform social experiments." This in spite of the fact that racial integration of the military was a "social experiment" that was imposed before it was widespread in American society.

It's all a load of horse pucky that the bigots hide behind.

[phrigndumass]

21. Good info on DADT, thanks

And I thought all long it was original with President Clinton. The DADT message is clear, though: If you want to serve your country, you had better do it in the closet or not do it at all.

I like Senator Clinton, but after President Clinton (whom I also like), I was tired of chasing carrots on a string.

[TechBear_Seattle]

22. I wasn't aware that Nunn had veto power he chose not to use

:wow: I learn things every day on this board.

[dsc]

26. On defense issue he pretty much did

also, the law needed changed to let gays in, not to keep gays out. Sodomy was a crime, and might still well be a crime, under the military code of justice, which is a congressionally passed set of laws. Clinton needed Congress, and thus Sam Nunn, to change the law.

[anonymous171]

23. Someone else falling for the "fighter" lie.

Oh well. I respect their decision.