Obama cannot win without Clinton supporters

[Uben]

....and Clinton cannot win without Obama supporters. A CNN poll asks dems if they will vote for McCain if their candidate does not win.....47% say yes! We're fucked!

[polichick]

1. It's a long way 'til November - we're only fucked if all those folks are actual idiots...

...rather than pissed off people in the midst of a campaign.

[Craftsman]

19. I, for one will not ever vote for Obigot

I may just skip that race on the ballot.

[polichick]

28. Lol - I guess you qualify as an "actual idiot" then. :)

[dionysus]

29. had your trollios for breakfast today lil buddy?

:rofl:

[tabasco]

31. 29% of them profess to be idiots at this time.

Or, as I prefer to call them, "shitheels."

[saltpoint]

2. Democrats are a tough bunch. We'll come together. McCain is the guy

who should be worried. Because he's about to get his clock cleaned.

[Kahuna]

3. Hillary and Bill have been endorsing McCain over Obama. What would

you expect? :shrug:

Time for the SDs to put an end to the Clinton nightmare.

[Uben]

5. SDs won't change a thing

No matter who wins, if half of those who voted follow through, McCain wins. My guess is that 99.9% of those who voted are republicans.

[AllentownJake]

4. Hopefully

They'll watch the GOP convention where they talk about banning abortion, invading Iran, 100 more years in Iraq, and moving all the gays to internment camps...and they'll wake up.

[Life Long Dem]

6. The sky is fallen, the sky is fallen!!

Oh wait... It's only March.

[frogcycle]

7. i expect most of those

are trying to make it look like the other candidate has no chance

really doesn't tell you anything

[susankh4]

8. A real problem.

I don't know about Obama supporters. But many Clinton supporters will feel more affinity to McCain than to Barack. I don't believe this is about the bitterness of the campaign. I think they have said it all along. In fact, I have been reading it since Mr. McCain was the presumed nominee.

[stillcool]

24. sounds logical to me..

the longer this Campaign continues, the more I notice some Democrats here who are much closer to the right, than they are to the left. As long as Senator Obama can continue to bring fresh blood and new voters into the Political Process, those Clinton/McCain voters won't be missed. Maybe it is all for the best that the Democratic Party be forced to show what it is all about.

[susankh4]

25. We can hope for a 28%+ increase from the left

that's true. It would offset the 28% moderates that move to McCain.

[Rubiconski2009]

9. He is one of the good guys, so please lighten up...

and don't take Clinton's faltering campaign so seriously.

Obama even donated to Clinton's last senate campaign.

Obama is person for the job. Please give your support to Obama.

[Oleladylib]

10. When the present a ticket where the run together ...they win...we win.

[susankh4]

13. I think that's right

at least I HOPE it is.

Without the unified ticket I think it's a GOP year.

[MaineDem]

11. Democrats will come together

It's what we do.

I think you'll start to see more of a campaign against McCain soon. Whether we have our nominee or not.

[Eurobabe]

16. God, let's hope so, this constant bickering

is really a turn off for this more Independent leaning Dem. :eyes:

[roseBudd]

12. They are lieing, voting for endless war, slashed gov't spending & an end to Roe v Wade? Right

[shadowknows69]

14. Here's a plan

How about when one or the other is officially the nominee we all support our candidate? Problem solved.

[JTFrog]

15. They will come together.

No matter what the individual grievances are with these two candidates, Americans will come together.

They will come together. And they will do it for Ashley. And every Ashley around the World.

"There is a young, twenty-three year old white woman named Ashley Baia who organized for our campaign in Florence, South Carolina. She had been working to organize a mostly African-American community since the beginning of this campaign, and one day she was at a roundtable discussion where everyone went around telling their story and why they were there.

And Ashley said that when she was nine years old, her mother got cancer. And because she had to miss days of work, she was let go and lost her health care. They had to file for bankruptcy, and that's when Ashley decided that she had to do something to help her mom.

She knew that food was one of their most expensive costs, and so Ashley convinced her mother that what she really liked and really wanted to eat more than anything else was mustard and relish sandwiches. Because that was the cheapest way to eat.

She did this for a year until her mom got better, and she told everyone at the roundtable that the reason she joined our campaign was so that she could help the millions of other children in the country who want and need to help their parents too.

Now Ashley might have made a different choice. Perhaps somebody told her along the way that the source of her mother's problems were blacks who were on welfare and too lazy to work, or Hispanics who were coming into the country illegally. But she didn't. She sought out allies in her fight against injustice.

Anyway, Ashley finishes her story and then goes around the room and asks everyone else why they're supporting the campaign. They all have different stories and reasons. Many bring up a specific issue. And finally they come to this elderly black man who's been sitting there quietly the entire time. And Ashley asks him why he's there. And he does not bring up a specific issue. He does not say health care or the economy. He does not say education or the war. He does not say that he was there because of Barack Obama. He simply says to everyone in the room, "I am here because of Ashley."

"I'm here because of Ashley." By itself, that single moment of recognition between that young white girl and that old black man is not enough. It is not enough to give health care to the sick, or jobs to the jobless, or education to our children.

But it is where we start. It is where our union grows stronger. And as so many generations have come to realize over the course of the two-hundred and twenty one years since a band of patriots signed that document in Philadelphia, that is where the perfection begins."

I have been an extreme anti-Clinton campaigner. Two months ago I decided to volunteer for Obama's campaign. I've attended rallies, walked the pavement and knocked on doors for his campaign and will be doing so again next week.

I have many reservations about Hillary Clinton being in the White House. But I have children and grandchildren and loved ones that span many continents. For them, I will vote for the democratic candidate no matter who it is. I owe it to them and to my country. I owe it to Ashley.

[MethuenProgressive]

17. That's why he's pandering to Fundis and other Repugs.

Fuck bipartisanship. I want the GOP crushed, not cuddled.

[JTFrog]

18. Pandering to Repugs? She and Bill have made Repug ads for McCain.

McCain is already using Bill's on his website.

Both Clinton's are meeting with the likes of Richard Scaife. Hillary wants Greenspan to lead a foreclosure group.

This cognitive dissonance is just getting to be too much.


Have you ever thought about this: If Clinton wins the nomination she will be beholden to the lobbyists and big corporate money donors who are threatening the democratic party right now. If Obama wins the nomination, he is beholden to....

ME. And almost two million other Americans who have donated to his campaign.

http://www.johnmccain.com/pathtovictory/democrats.htm?s=google&t=electability

Those two are single handedly destroying the huge advantage that democrats had over the republicans this year after seven years of the worst president ever.

[RichardRay]

20. I don't really CARE what happens to the Republican Party.

I care about what happens to the United States of America.

I want an end to the ware in Iraq, a return to a government of laws, a recognition of the interdependent nature of the modern world and a president who can speak in complete sentences.

Whether a person chooses to support Senator Clinton or Barack Obama I think those goals best remain paramount. If, in return for that, I have to let the Republicans off with nothing more angonizing than a lost election then I'll take that. In the long run it's better for the country anyway.

I am not in this to feel good about getting some sort of revenge; I'm in this to elect a president.

[stray cat]

21. Doesn't say much for the supporters progressive values - they favor Republican values

[stray cat]

22. Dems increasing calling for 8-more years of Bush - go figure!

[slinkerwink]

23. It's the Supreme Court, stupid.

I've said before I wouldn't vote for Hillary if she was the nominee. That was because I was angry at her campaign tactics, but if by hook or by crook she's the nominee, I'll have to hold my nose and use a long pole to push that vote button for her.

[invictus]

26. Yes, he can. Obama has appeal among independents and first-time voters. n/t

[invictus]

27. Also, I suspect a lot of these Clinton "supporters" were planning on backing McCain anyway. n/t

[Lucky 13]

30. You know what? I'm willing to take that gamble.

First of all I don't believe for a second that all the Hillary supporters are going to bail on the Democratic Party. As the illustrious Bill Clinton said:

In the primary you fall in love. In the general you fall in line.

Unless it's the last act of TRAITOROUS HYPOCRISY to the Democratic party, I expect the Hillary folks will fall in line nicely and turn out for Barack, just like Bill told them to so many years ago.

And no, I don't think there is any circumstance where she should be offered the VP slot. She didn't just burn that bridge, she NUKED IT. She decided to play ugly... and these are her consequences.

For those who would actually vote McCain over Obama... well you probably have much more in common with Grandpa McPain and he's probably the right candidate for you. May you spend your few remaining years together cherishing your many commonalities.

But I have news for you: You're WAY WORSE than Republicans because you fully understand the ramifications of that error. You have 8 years evidence to know exactly what will go down and you are willing to let it continue because of your own PATHETIC BITTERNESS.

Talk about not being able to see the forest for the trees.