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Thu Mar-27-08 08:28 AM
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Andrea Mitchell suddenly "finds" more Wright material online... |
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Edited on Thu Mar-27-08 08:31 AM by npincus
How fortuitous! Right after NBC/WSJ Poll validates the "contorversy" is a tempest in a teapot, and not impacting as the pundit class expected. Immediately upon the poll's release, Andrea Mitchell "finds" further inflammatory Wright-related materials, and are now trumpeting (MSNBC) that "the controversy continues!!!!". YIPPEE! Now MSNBC's "find" can tighten the race, even advantage Hillary, to create the "horsrace" narrative that feeds the ratings beast! Hooray!
Anyone else believe that NBC is sitting on a pile of this dated crap, that they will drip drip drip out... gotta manufacture the news so you can report it! Right, I am sure that Andrea Mitchell herself is surfing the internet right now. What a crock of shit. The NBC/WSJ Poll showed Americans by and large are ready to move on- that didn't sit well with the honchos at NBC. Gotta keep the shit fllying!
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Thu Mar-27-08 08:30 AM
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1. Yup...and they downplay SniperFib, which is what killed her in the poll |
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They just don't buy their own results, I guess.
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Thu Mar-27-08 11:46 AM
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62. Actually, I'm not sure if the poll really reflected the "snipergate" fallout. |
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The coverage was pretty awful yesterday, so the height of that fallout would probably be today.
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Thu Mar-27-08 08:30 AM
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2. voilence in Iraq should be story of the day |
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she's beating a dead horse with the stuff happening today. Isn't working anyway not his words.
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Thu Mar-27-08 08:32 AM
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5. Absolutely! That and the subprime loan housing crisis. |
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Thu Mar-27-08 08:43 AM
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20. One dead horse beating, coming right up! |
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Thu Mar-27-08 08:31 AM
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3. There is more than Wright coming up. GOP is just sitting on it |
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Thu Mar-27-08 08:34 AM
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They a chomping at the bit to paint Obama as a dangerous black man with muslim ties. I don't think the goppers will get to use anything new, by the time they get their chance. Hillary will bring up all there is, before the Primary is over.
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Thu Mar-27-08 08:36 AM
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12. I don't think you understand |
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Thu Mar-27-08 08:39 AM
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It's gonna get disgusting. But, I still think that anything that has actually ties to Obama will have been aired before the GE.
I know there will be slanderous shit, and made-up shit. But, I also know that Hillary wants to win, so she will try everything there is on Obama.
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Thu Mar-27-08 09:04 AM
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35. Um. try asking yourself what Karl Rove knows that no one else does |
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Thu Mar-27-08 11:41 AM
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59. I know what you are referring to, leftofcool.. |
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Of course, Rove knows...
The thought of Rove sitting and waiting, with this info is blood-chilling.
Rove was speaking the truth when he said the GOP would not attack Obama on the Muslim issue.
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Thu Mar-27-08 03:53 PM
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69. Well, if only Karl knows, how could I know. |
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Thu Mar-27-08 08:37 AM
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Thu Mar-27-08 08:32 AM
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4. In a way, I wish the media would scrutinize all religious leaders similarly. |
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Maybe they would stop bashing gays. That would be nice.
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Thu Mar-27-08 08:34 AM
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6. Andrea Mitchell = Biased |
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Using the Wright story has backfired over the last week. Why would she do it again now?
Lord, smite her and Greenspan, please?
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Thu Mar-27-08 08:39 AM
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16. Yes Mitchell is biased...towards Obama just like MSNBC tells her to be . nt |
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Thu Mar-27-08 08:40 AM
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18. Thanks for the reply, IGNORED. |
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Thu Mar-27-08 08:48 AM
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25. Put me on there also. |
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It's clear you don't have the debating skills to keep up. "Ignore" is the cowardly way out.
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Thu Mar-27-08 08:52 AM
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29. No, it's that I never saw the post to begin with. |
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I can't debate what I can't see. I use ignore on trolls. It's as cowardly as me not turning the radio knob to Rush Limbaugh or not ordering liver and onions for lunch. DU is a much nicer place with a few well-placed "ignores".
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Thu Mar-27-08 09:03 AM
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33. Fair enough...my apologies. |
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I just think that people on here are going a little too much "Ignore List" lately.
Some people, I do believe, have used this ignore feature just on those they don't agree with. I DO believe that is cowardly.
Again, my apologies.
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Thu Mar-27-08 12:21 PM
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66. Pity. The poster really tore you a new one. Ignorance is bliss, I guess. |
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Thu Mar-27-08 07:17 PM
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73. I'm sure neither Olkaz nor I would think so... but thanks for your opinion |
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I think it says much more that both he and I have that person on Ignore
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Thu Mar-27-08 08:01 PM
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86. "...Mitchell is biased...towards Obama just like MSNBC tells her to be." |
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That's "tearing" a new one?
That's why Mitchell is dredging up Wright stuff? To support Obama?
O......kaaaaay.
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Thu Mar-27-08 08:19 PM
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87. I like messing with those who brag about the size of their ignore lists. n/t |
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Thu Mar-27-08 09:26 AM
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48. I have that person on Ignored also... |
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Thu Mar-27-08 08:48 AM
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24. Biased? Yeah, for Obama. n/t |
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Thu Mar-27-08 07:37 PM
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74. Maybe because they know it hasn't backfired on them. There are |
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ratings to be found and they still have to set Obama up for the general.
To all those who bought Obama's crap that the press had cherry picked Wright's sermons, I say live and learn. Any guy who talks like that cannot give a sermon with a different mind set. The Pukes know they have struck the mother lode.
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Thu Mar-27-08 08:34 AM
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7. So, if its out there Fox is going to find it anyway |
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Did you happen to catch NBC's Brian Williams on Leno last night? He had nothing but praise for Bush and how the Surge is working and also told about what a great job he is doing in Africa and doesn't get any credit.
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Thu Mar-27-08 08:36 AM
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13. Actually, Fox DID get it first last night. Andrea is just following Fox around. |
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Greta was talking about some article Wright wrote, but no one had a copy of it. Newsday wrote about it but they don't have the article either.
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Thu Mar-27-08 10:36 AM
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58. Ah, and I was about to give Mitchell credit for learning how to google |
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Because it's always an amazing achievement when a talking head learns to actually - you know - search the internet for stuff. But now I see that's not the case. She's just rummaging through the Fox news dumpster, as usual.
Stay classy, Andrea!
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Thu Mar-27-08 07:40 PM
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76. They can probably find a copy on Obama's coffee table. |
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I gather it's from the church newsletter.
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Thu Mar-27-08 08:49 AM
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I remember him saying that he listens to Rush everyday. He claims he listens because he wants to know what the country is thinking.
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Thu Mar-27-08 08:34 AM
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9. She's able to find more controversial material to air, but can't find any |
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blurbs from his sermons to balance it out, eh?
Well, what if MSNBC manufactured a controversy and no one bothered tuning in to watch?
Fuck the corporate media whores.
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Thu Mar-27-08 08:35 AM
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10. The real question is the poll itself. |
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Exactly who did they poll concerning those "terrible negatives" for Hillary? Republicans and so-called Independents? Ha,ha, They have been hating the Clintons from day one. Strange that Obama and Hillary were tied at 45-45 with those bad negatives for Hillary. :wtf:
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Thu Mar-27-08 09:32 AM
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52. Yes, the favorabilty ratings were for general and |
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included both parties and independents as did the head to head against McCain. But they have both fallen in those ratings You know the poll was actually to find effect on Obama by the Wright thing. They didn't expect to see the drop for Clinton as well.
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Thu Mar-27-08 08:36 AM
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She sure does love shooting herself in the foot. This should be good for another 10 point drop for her.
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Thu Mar-27-08 07:44 PM
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79. It's the Obama way to blame on Hillary whatever the Puke media trots out. |
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Thu Mar-27-08 08:38 AM
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15. Would you rather they hold it until the GE? nt |
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Thu Mar-27-08 08:42 AM
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19. Did she also "find" this article in the new York times? |
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Photograph of Bill Clinton and Rev. Wright SurfacesWhy hasn't the MSM pointed out that the Clintons have a tie to Rev. Wright, too? Wouldn't that be the fair and balanced thing to do? :headbang: rocknation
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Thu Mar-27-08 08:44 AM
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22. Having someone at a White House breakfast is hardly a "tie". nt |
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Thu Mar-27-08 08:49 AM
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27. The media didn't waist any time nailing |
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Hillary about the sniper story either. They already labeled it "Snipergate". Never heard no "Wrightgate" from the MSM.
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Thu Mar-27-08 09:36 AM
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53. I think what the picture showed wasn't that |
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he was close to the Clintons but that he wasn't considered an extremist, he was a highly regarded minister. It doesn't bring question of "Is Hillary bad" but "Is Wright really that bad?" The Rev Dr. Wright has 3 presidential commendations, things like that, reasons he would be invited.
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Thu Mar-27-08 10:17 AM
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Half a dozen lines out of twenty year's worth of sermons isn't a tie, either.
I didn't write the rules.
:headbang: rockation
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Thu Mar-27-08 07:50 PM
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82. What you should be reading from this new info is that there is no end |
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to this Wright stuff. The Pukes have it and they are going to have a good time with it.
The MSM which has been adoring to Obama and smoothing over his fukups will now point out everything he does wrong. He will no longer think he is running a brilliant campaign. You will presently see how it feels to have your candidate lambasted daily.
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Thu Mar-27-08 08:44 AM
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21. This story did NOT break last night I read about it last week!!! |
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I hate the media, i really freakin hate them.
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Thu Mar-27-08 08:47 AM
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23. where did you read about it? Those f*cking liars and their "Andrea Mitchell" story! |
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Edited on Thu Mar-27-08 08:47 AM by npincus
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Thu Mar-27-08 08:50 AM
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28. Some Hillbot was trumpeting the story on DU last week |
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Thu Mar-27-08 08:52 AM
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The RW has REAMS AND REAMS of this sh**. And they will be releasing it bit by bit... until November.
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Thu Mar-27-08 08:54 AM
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31. Wright-fatigue or a backlash against this dirty tactic may follow. |
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Obama's favoribility only went down 2 points. The most outraged (FUX bread and butter audience) weren't voting for Obama anyway.
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Thu Mar-27-08 08:58 AM
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But it won't end with Wright. It will get more and more ludicrous. More and more fantasmical. More and more offensive.
I know. I watched the Clintons endure it..... twice.
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Thu Mar-27-08 07:53 PM
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83. The Pukes own the media. There will be no Wright fatigue but rather |
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Obama fatigue.
One has got to wonder when our party leaders are going to sit Obama down and ask him what the fuk more is out there.
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Thu Mar-27-08 09:04 AM
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34. Obama had a Jewish problem before this...read Israeli papaers |
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Thu Mar-27-08 09:09 AM
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38. Not with this Jew, nor my Jewish Hillary-supporting family. |
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They like Obama, prefer Hillary and will vote Dem no matter what. If we must generalize, Jews tend to be an educated bunch with a large liberal-Dem composition. We are by no means a single-issse group and can handle complexity.
Obama did not have a "Jewish Problem". That's a term with a sordid history.
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Thu Mar-27-08 09:13 AM
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41. correction : Obama's spiritual mentor has a Jewish problem" |
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Edited on Thu Mar-27-08 09:13 AM by ElsewheresDaughter
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Thu Mar-27-08 09:25 AM
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but he doesn't speak for me.
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Thu Mar-27-08 09:13 AM
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40. Israelis vote in Israel, not here. |
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Thu Mar-27-08 09:14 AM
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42. That's where you are mistaken ...dual citizenships |
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Thu Mar-27-08 11:47 AM
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63. Yes, dual Citizenships, like that of my Israeli-American Wife. |
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Thu Mar-27-08 11:46 AM
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61. You mean like this one? |
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Thu Mar-27-08 09:08 AM
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37. And who can name Andrea Mitchell's Husband... |
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Edited on Thu Mar-27-08 09:09 AM by dave29
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hint: Hillary just recommended him to help fix the mortgage crisis
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Thu Mar-27-08 07:43 PM
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78. That idiot Greenspan, of course. |
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So who will Obama put up? Some exteme Friedmanite from U-Chicago?
The economy's going to the toilet and both out candidates have their heads up their orifices.
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Thu Mar-27-08 09:12 AM
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39. Why are you all getting upset??? You see what happened |
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when the media pulled an all out assault against Obama with the Wright story last time. Hill's numbers crashed! The general public understands that the media is trying to manipulate them. They are smart enough to see how this just so happens to come out right after Hill's numbers crash. I worry a lot but I'm not worried about this AT ALL!!! Give it your best shot media (and Hill campaign), Obama will still be standing tall once it is over.
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Thu Mar-27-08 09:16 AM
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43. DU in NO way is representive of the real American public |
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Thu Mar-27-08 10:23 AM
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56. and you are in no way representative of a real human being |
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89. Where did my3boyz say it is? |
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Thu Mar-27-08 09:38 AM
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54. The worry is that it increases |
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the hate and threats to Wright and the church. Wright was used as a weapon on Obama and Wright, church and congregation are collateral damage...in pretty bad ways.
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Thu Mar-27-08 09:17 AM
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44. It actually might help him in some areas |
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Thu Mar-27-08 09:25 AM
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45. Did she talk about Wright's hate of Italians or as he likes to call them"garlic noses"? |
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Obama and his nasty pastor are low-life bigots.There is no denying that
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Thu Mar-27-08 07:58 PM
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85. Get out of here. They didn't! |
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They are in for it now and it couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of guys, I'm talking Obama, Kennedy, Kerry, Richardson, Dodd, Reid, Dean and Pelosi (oops!)
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Thu Mar-27-08 09:26 AM
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47. That Andrea Mitchell sure is one resourceful gal, ain't she? |
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Thu Mar-27-08 09:27 AM
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49. It was part of the her deal with the Clinton campaign to get her husband, Greenspan, a new job. |
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Andrea Mitchell is one big walking conflict of interest.
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Thu Mar-27-08 09:28 AM
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50. It is in the media's best self-interest to keep the Dem primary alive. |
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Thu Mar-27-08 09:29 AM
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51. The Wright stuff is frankly boring. Unless he decides to run for President. |
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Until then, they're beating a dead horse into an unrecognizable pulp.
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Thu Mar-27-08 10:25 AM
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57. God BLESS Andrea Mitchell! |
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And the United States of America! :patriot:
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Thu Mar-27-08 11:43 AM
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60. LOL MSNBC... So yesterday... Andrea... Easter Break is over, Babe |
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80. LOL! Nastiest post ever! I love it. {EOM} |
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Thu Mar-27-08 12:00 PM
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65. We're over the Wright stuff. And anyone comparing Wright to Clinton... |
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has to understand that Clinton lied. Those were her own words regarding sniper fire. Obama hasn't lied about Wright. Campaigns can't drive every word that comes out of their mouth. They can reject and denounce it.
I didn't blame Clinton for what Ferraro said but that she didn't make her step down is another story. I don't blame Obama for what Wright said but 2 minutes of sound bites over 20 years isn't enough to label him Anti-American and I'm certainly not going to blame obama for what his pastor says.
We all have heard divisive language we don't agree with from our pastors, friends, relatives, business associates.
Look, MSNBC hired Pat Buchanan, a known bigot and possibly a racist but you don't see Rachel Maddow running for the door every time they have to interact with him.
Obama is ahead of the curve on Wright and Clinton still has to answer for many of her gaffes, her baldfaced lies, her tax returns, her husband and the donor list.
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Thu Mar-27-08 12:23 PM
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67. Wait till the GE, when the "bad" stuff comes out. |
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You ain't seen nuttin' yet!
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84. What's the so-called "bad" stuff? |
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You Hillbots constantly talk about what will happen in the future and what the big, bad Repugs will do. You guys sicken me. The truth of the matter is that you Hillbots don't know shit and are simply trying to frighten people. If you think people are dumb enough not to see through your B.S. you really are a Hillbot.
If the Repugs wanted Obama so bad, THEY wouldn't be trying to stop him now. Everyone knows FOX is a Repug operation. Everyone knows WSJ is a Repug Operation. Everyone knows Buchanan, Scarborough, etc, are REPUGS, yet, they never have a good word for Obama. BUT THEY LOVE HILLARY. In fact, they love Hillary so much, they've encouraged their REPUG Dittoheads to pull the lever for her. If they want Obama so bad, why not simply lavish praise on him and ignore Wright and have the dittoheads vote for him?
Hmmmmmm....
Yea, they ain't got shit and your little HOPE that they do is soooo transparent.
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Thu Mar-27-08 03:56 PM
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72. Mitchell is not very bright |
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Do not trust members of the elite media. They are rich and follow their best interests: Republican party candidates.
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of course she adores Clinton and will do anything to sabotage Obama.
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77. I think the media frames a lot of what causes us to go at each others throats. |
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81. My informal poll of independents and Dems with actual lives, |
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suggests that no one is really paying much attention to Wright because they're too concerned about the economy and getting their sick parents or kids to the doctor.
The pukes will hit this and other stuff in the second half of October when folks are paying attention. It will upset people, but Obama's Friedmanite U-Chicago economic pukes will upset them more.
Or, Clinton's idea to throw Greenspan into it to clean up the mess he made will be on everyone's mind.
It will be the economy, stupid, and neither candidate looks to be paying attention.
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