Garlic-nose, slant-eye, watermelon-eater, Jew me down, a Gyp...sorry, no room for any of them

[Bluebear]

For the record, the only comment I have ever made about Wright is that I have heard enough mention of religious mentors in relation to politicians for the rest of my lifetime.

Having said that, why are people now calling anyone offended by "garlic-nose" as having "faux outrage"? Hell's bells, there was a EEOC complaint at work when someone called an Italian coworker "dripping in olive oil".

I appreciate that you don't want this to damage Obama's campaign, and it shouldn't, but I'm sorry, I have no tolerance for derogatory slang. Sue me. :hi:

[anonymous171]

1. Good thing Obama has never said any of those things.

[Bluebear]

3. That's not the point.

The reverend DID and people are OK with it.

[JoFerret]

5. He did?

Crikey! I actually did not know that.

[anonymous171]

6. Post in GD if this isn't about the primaries.

[Bluebear]

10. I pay my rent here, newb. Have a nice day :)

[totodeinhere]

60. I applaud you for being a contributer. But...

that doesn't give you the right to post off topic material in GD:P.

[Name removed]

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[theredpen]

32. The reverend said, "Jew me down"? When?!

[MNDemNY]

39. "As far as we Know".

[knight_of_the_star]

50. You Fail

[StrongBad]

56. I hate to threadjack but that graphic is absolutely hysterical!

[knight_of_the_star]

57. That's exactly the point!

By putting up funny stuff like that it will give laughs to those who don't want to deal with all the drama and it just MIGHT help point out to the people perpetuating the drama what they're doing is stupid and needs to stop.

[MadBadger]

2. Sorry If I dont care about what Rev Wright said about Romans 2,000 years ago.

[Coexist]

4. me neither.

Obviously, I am the author of the OP Bluebear is referring to.

[Bluebear]

8. Truthfully, I have no problem with your OP

if you care. :)

But the post that irritated me was

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5283157&mesg_id=5283448

You aren't offended by the phrase, but someone might be. "Laughing" at that notion and calling it "faux" outrage is offensive.

[Coexist]

27. Bluebear, I don't think that poster is meanspirited

And I don't understand the 'faux outrage' part - were there Italian-Americans on tv who were offended?

I have only heard of Andrea Mitchell and David Gregory discussing this, and in my little opinion, I don't think they could really be outraged by this, enough to demand that Obama make another speech. I think that is the alleged "manufactured outrage" the poster is referring to.

But I cannot speak for her/him. Maybe he/she will pop in and explain it themselves.

[Bluebear]

30. Of course, I am of the "the soldiers deserved it" mentality:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5283742&mesg_id=5283849

I think I am just giving up on discussing ANYTHING here anymore :(

[Coexist]

34. Wow, that was odd.

(not what you said, that post). I must've missed that bit.

I like you!

I can't wait for the primary to be over.

:toast:

[Bluebear]

I like you too :) I can't wait for the primary to be over, too...

It's giving me a headache and attracting far too many psychopaths here. :toast:

[JoFerret]

9. Please do not demean Obama.

with that graphic.

[DJ13]

7. I agree, and now I promise never to vote for Wright this November

Happy?

[Bluebear]

14. Yes, boy you sure got me there!

:eyes:

[Deep13]

11. I hope you don't Welsh on your commitment to the party.

Oh shit! x(

[DJ13]

13. uh

:spank: :spank: :spank: :spank: :spank:
:rofl:

[Bucky]

49. Dude, look at all those paddles!

You're gonna give the poor boy an indian burn.

[olkaz]

12. I'm offended that the media is still digging through everying with Rev. Wright.

This thing is a retread of a retread of a retread.

It's going to backfire.

[Drunken Irishman]

15. Don't forget Clinton's comment about Gandhi working down at a gas station in St. Louis.

[Bluebear]

18. She said that?? Horrible.

[Drunken Irishman]

20. Yeah, it was a while back.

It was a stupid comment, as was Rev. Wright's, but I didn't think her comment warranted the press it received and I don't think Rev. Wright's comment should get the press it's receiving, either.

[tammywammy]

24. here's a link to the video of it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1Mq8kOXV_E

[Umbram]

43. Clinton supporters have already informed us - that was just a "joke"

which means, of course, it isn't offensive.

:puke:

[ampad]

48. WTH

Is this for real? Hillary is too damn old to be making jokes like that and btw it was not funny. These words came from her own mouth when is she going to denounce herself.

[wowimthere]

53. It may be a joke but it's a stereotypical joke... a racial joke

So I think people should get off of Wright's case. A joke can still offend.

[peace13]

16. Remember,Hill stirred the pot.

I so can't wait until we get into her religious baloney. It is there and the MSM is ignoring it. I say lay it all on the table or stfu about any of it. Why is it that we only hear about Wright.

[femmedem]

17. I appreciate that you can voice your objection to what Wright said

without hoping that it damages Obama's campaign. I especially appreciate it knowing Obama's not your candidate.

Nothing else Wright said has bothered me. But that did. Not that it affects my support for Obama, whom I'm sure would never say that.

[Bluebear]

21. Thank you

My candidate quit, and I will vote for whoever out nominee is, for anyone looking in :)

And I agree, this should not reflect on Obama in the least.

[ProSense]

22. Hillary has the nerve to assail Rev. Wright

Hillary has the nerve to assail Rev. Wright

The attempts to demonize Wright and hope it rubs off on Obama is desperately transparent.

[Bluebear]

26. Yes, I am trying to demonize Wright & hope it runs off on Obama, because so many are undecided here.

:eyes:

[ProSense]

33. Words out of context, which is your OP, mean nothing. You are misrepresenting Wright's words

by taking them out of context. Why?

[Bluebear]

36. It's called discussing something. I realize you just post your little factoid threads...

...but I think discussion is actually enjoyable sometime.

[ProSense]

37. Do you know if Bill and Hillary have

denounced McCain?

[Bluebear]

40. They certainly should, that "gook" comment was unconscionable,

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=2797804

[Bluebear]

41. And P.S.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=414751

[ProSense]

44. That's fine, but it doesn't change that the OP is taking Wright's words out of context

in an attempt to label him a racist!

[msallied]

23. My aunt still uses the term "Negro."

I don't love her all the more for it, but I don't hate her either. She's been in the south her whole life.

Of course, Obama demonstrated this point beautifully in his speech. Those who are disingenuous instead insist that he "threw granny under the bus." It's an act of hypocrisy that is hard to wrap my mind around.

[theredpen]

31. So does the United Negro College Fund

There was a time when that was a respectful term for people with African heritage.

After a while, it had been used as an epithet too many times and it became disrespectful and a new term came into fashion. Once upon a time, "colored" was a respectful term, until it became a buzzword of segregation.

This linguistic history — how we have to keep adopting new language because the current terms inevitably becomes associated with bigotry — is a testament to a cultural wound that never been able to fully heal.

[libodem]

46. We were taught that out of respect

in the 1950's. Most of the time people used that word or the other one. I didn't catch on to the underlying meaning of some common phrases used in everyday talk, until my 20's. I heard 'get your cottonpickin hands off'. A friend of mine was extremely offended when a Preacher we knew used "cottonpickin'" and then "pickininny" as slang cuss words. Until that moment of Doug's offended sensibilities, I never 'heard' the meaning. Some of this crap is culturally embedded and until it's ferreted out sometimes people don't know what they are actually saying. Using jew for bargaining is certainly another one. Waiting on tender hooks is another horrible example. We are certainly a thoughtless and bigoted people to be condemned without any hope of redemption.

[DangerousRhythm]

59. "Tender hooks"?

Excuse my ignorance, but is the phrase inflammatory in some way I'm not aware of?

http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-ont1.htm

That's all I know of it...

[redqueen]

25. Well it's a good thing you won't have to vote for Wright in the GE...

and that nobody's trying to force you to go to his church.

[Bluebear]

28. Yes, you sure got me there

[GoneOffShore]

42. Lots of people here go the Church of Our Lady of Perpetual Outrage.

[hfojvt]

29. How about cabbage-head?

We krauts generally don't mind. Also I am not sure if calling Germans "Huns" is a slur against Germans, Huns, Magyars or all three. :crazy:

I am happy to notice the local news is now saying "police van" instead of "paddy wagon".

[theredpen]

35. That's an insult for Germans? I thought you were talking about this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwoUcYKUanM

[redqueen]

38. I'm betting that's from Kids in the Hall.

:D


edit: YES! :thumbsup:

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[sabra]

47. "faux outrage" is over the MSM and RW obsession in making Rev. Wright into a issue

which it is not.. IMO

[Mezzo]

54. Wright's racism *IS* an issue.

hopefully it can be mitigated, but I refuse to put my head in the sand and pretend it is okay to say those things if you are a minority.

Bullshit. And this is a bigger liability than if Hillary recalled that she SHOT BACK AT SNIPER FIRE. One is a faulty recollection. The other happened over TWENTY YEARS, no two ways around it.

If you think Wright isn't racist, it alludes to a bigger problem than we ever knew.

[Bigleaf]

58. Faulty recollection? ha ha ha ha

Any sane person would remember if they had to run from a plane to a hangar because of sniper fire. It's a lie, not faulty recollection.


With regard to the Wright situation, I wasn't there for 20 years so I not know how many of his sermons were controversial. I do find it odd though that we have not heard the media say one good thing about him or provide just one good deed he or his church have done in the past. I guess all the members of this church are racist, they all hate America and have done no good whatsoever. I personally don't care about this issue because Obama hasn't showed me he is a racist in any way.

[mmonk]

51. I don't either.

I also don't care for the fact the primary campaigns are no longer on issues.

[Mezzo]

52. Along with..."whitey" since THAT'S a pretty fucking racist term nt

[1776Forever]

55. Some of Rev. Wrights words are wrong - but Obama asks us to try harder to be better & forgive.......

http://www.observer.com/2008/obama-versus-gotcha-narrative

Obama Versus the Gotcha Narrative
by Steve Kornacki | March 21, 2008

(snip)

Yes, the speech was prompted by a political imperative—Obama’s need to create distance between himself and his longtime minister—but no one can argue that it was calibrated purely, primarily or even significantly for political effect. The easy, politically safe route would have been simply to toss Jeremiah Wright under the bus, to spare no harsh adjective in condemning the anti-American caricature of a man to which the public had been introduced.

That is not how Obama played it. Instead, he treated Wright like what he is: a human being, a man filled with contradictions, someone who has given much of his life to ministering to a desperate community many Americans would rather not think about, and someone whose life’s work has now been reduced to the inflammatory, context-free apex of an overheated sermon. Contrary to the claims of some on the right, who either didn’t listen to the speech or simply didn’t want to, Obama condemned the specific remarks by Wright that have been called into question.

But then he went further, much further, asking Americans to consider that this country’s maddeningly sluggish racial journey produced generations of people, white and black, similar to Jeremiah Wright: prone, in their worst moments, to uttering ignorant, hurtful and hateful slurs, but equally ready, at their best, to perform some act of kindness and generosity, big or small, for their fellow man.

The point, of course, was that racial reconciliation is difficult and elusive, but hardly impossible, and that it requires recognition from whites and blacks alike of the contradictions that live within all of us. What Obama called for, in short, was a genuine, meaningful and unsparing national conversation about race.