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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 04:16 PM
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Hillary Clinton, the Economy, and North Carolina
March 27, 2008



RALEIGH, N.C. – Attention White House operator: The 3 a.m. phone is ringing again.

In her first campaign visit to North Carolina today, Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton reprised the line about a middle-of-the-night telephone call to the president. This time, the topic was the economy – not national security – and the target of discussion was Senator John McCain. (http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/03/27/economic-crisis-on-line-2/)

“It’s time for a president who is ready on Day One to be the commander in chief of our economy,” Mrs. Clinton said, speaking at at Wake Tech Community College here. “Sometimes the phone rings at 3 a.m. in the White House and it’s an economic crisis and we need a president who is ready and willing and able to answer that call.”

Mrs. Clinton paid little attention to her Democratic rival – Senator Barack Obama, who she faces on the ticket in the state’s May 6 primary here – and focused on the presumptive Republican nominee.

“I read the speech that Senator McCain gave the other day which set forth his plan which does virtually nothing to ease the credit crisis or the housing crisis,” Mrs. Clinton said. “It seems like if the phone were ringing, he would just let it ring and ring and ring.”

"He'd rather ignore the mortgage crisis or blame middle-class families instead of offering solutions," she said. "I think we've had enough of a president who didn't know enough about economics and didn't do enough for the American middle class. I don't think we can afford four years of that kind of inaction."



She said that in terms of the economy, the Republicans had been steering the country in the wrong direction. Comparing running for office like `"driving a car", Clinton said that if you want to go forward put the car in "D" but if you want to go backwards, put the car in "R", signifying abbreviations for each party.

She blamed President Bush for his handling of the economy and said that the country lacked leadership in that regard.

"We need a Commander In Chief of the economy," she said.

Mrs. Clinton brought up many references to North Carolina, including one of the state`s most well-known events -- the first flight by the Wright Brothers on the coast of North Carolina in 1903.

Citing the "lesson of the Wright Brothers," Clinton said that despite many setbacks and the fact that they only had a high-school education, the two brothers persevered and finally succeeded, changing the world in the process.

Americans should do the same and continue to push for changes in their government, she said.

"We have never let challenges stop us," said Clinton about the American people.



After detailing her own housing plan earlier this week – which includes a $30 billion "housing stimulus package" and other steps to help homeowners avoid foreclosure - Clinton focused almost exclusively on job creation today. (http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news/politics/blog/2008/03/hillary_clinton_get_the_phone.html#more)

At the Wake Technical Community College, Clinton proposed a $2.5 billion annual workforce training program, which would expand help for dislocated workers and new "pre-emptive on-the-job training."

"You shouldn't have to produce a pink slip to get help training for a higher-paying job," Clinton said.

Clinton reiterated several of her core economic proposals in language – harsh on drug and oil companies and heavy on praise for the middle class - that often sounded a lot like native son John Edwards.

Nearly 1,000 supporters, many of them students, packed into a third-floor, windowless room where the temperature rose steadily throughout the morning. They cheered loudly when Clinton took the stage, an hour behind schedule, after apparently leaving late from Washington this morning.



from the campaign:

In North Carolina today, Hillary launched a six-day tour to discuss her solutions to ensure shared prosperity in these tough economic times. Hillary will travel to North Carolina, Indiana, and Pennsylvania as part of the “Solutions For The American Economy” tour and will highlight ways that state and local leaders have found solutions to economic challenges. The first event of the tour took place at Wake Tech Community College in Raleigh where Clinton gave a speech outlining her plan to revive the economy and announced a new plan to invest $2.5 billion per year – or $12.5 billion over 5 years –to strengthen the nation’s workforce development efforts. Her plan would make job retraining universally available to all dislocated workers, provide new Pell Grants to workers, and support on-the-job training opportunities.

During her remarks, she noted that North Carolina Governor Mike Easley has made workforce development and job retraining a major priority. In fact, he increased funding for community colleges by 15.8 percent above 2005-06 levels. He has also expanded the “Learn and Earn” initiative, which allows high schools students to obtain a high school diploma and an associate’s degree or two years of university credit in five years.

At Wake Technical Community College, she was joined by several students and faculty members, including Bud Burton, an instructor in architecture and landscape architecture, who is working with his students on green building design, as well as Susanne Mistric, a married mom of two, who always wanted to go to college and is a double major in graphic design and web technology. Clinton also met with Shenise Gilyard, a senior at Southeast Raleigh High School and participant in Wake Tech’s dual enrollment program. When she graduates from high school this year, she will have her diploma and an EMT certificate.

“We are competing in a new global economy, but our policies to equip American worker for the twenty-first century are stuck back in the twentieth. When it comes to retraining assistance, our government is more focused on how you lost your job than how you can find a new one,” said Clinton. “And while we have been rightly focused on trying to help people who are out of work, there’s been too little thought and effort to help people gain new skills while they still have their existing jobs – so they can move up or move on to higher-wage positions.”


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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 04:18 PM
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1. I'm sorry but that last shot of her looks downright dictatorial ...
I'm not going to use the "n" word but ...

:eyes:
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 04:19 PM
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2. what an idiotic statement. You must be a real gem among your peers.
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 04:33 PM
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12. Yes, I consider myself to be ... I was just critiquing the camera angle
That shot makes her look like she's talking down to people (as well as
looking creepy/Messianic/etc.)

I'll also point out that she's not being well-served by the media who continually
shoot her from behind -- I must have seen the same footage of her going up
onstage wearing a blue suit dozens of times in the past few days (on several
different channels). I'm a woman and if I had to see that kind of footage of
me played over and over again, I'd be on the phone complaining BIG TIME about
that. You don't see them shooting Obama from behind ... What's up with THAT?
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 04:39 PM
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16. I think she looks fine.
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rndmprsn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 04:19 PM
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3. blah blah blah...more fo the same shit from the status quo
sorry you lost my vote a LONG time ago...move on now.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 04:21 PM
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4. that's what you came onto this thread for. To spout your bullshit?
Some folks actually care about the issues she's raising. Over 11 million votes for her voice, so far in this election.
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rndmprsn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 04:31 PM
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11. no to call you on yours...NEXT
and it is some BIG BS too...this guy is selling SOME snake oil, and if you don't like it kiss my ass.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 04:36 PM
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14. You are deep into your political fantasy. All these bad people working against you
Edited on Thu Mar-27-08 04:42 PM by bigtree
BIG BS isn't an argument, it's just ridicule. Amazing, really, to feel so secure launching personal attacks as a substitute for your inability to debate the substance of her proposals.

("Kiss your ass?" no real discussion to be expected from you. Ignoring.)
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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 04:22 PM
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5. She lost me on the economy when she proposed Greenspan lead a foreclosure group.
Edited on Thu Mar-27-08 04:23 PM by JTFrog
Contrasted with Obama's message today that we need to fully move into the 21st Century already.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 04:25 PM
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6. I admit that was troublesome. nt
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 04:28 PM
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8. good for you. I happen to agree with her plan
SENATOR CLINTON’S PLAN TO PROTECT AMERICAN HOMEOWNERS BUILDS ON HER AGGRESSIVE PROPOSALS TO COMBAT THE FORECLOSURE CRISIS

For over a year, Senator Clinton has been urging action to get out in front of the growing housing crisis. In March 2007, Senator Clinton warned of the growing problems in the subprime market, and called for a "foreclosure timeout" and common-sense regulations to protect borrowers. In August 2007, Senator Clinton outlined a series of reforms to crack down on unscrupulous mortgage lenders and correct oversight failures in the mortgage industry. In December of 2007, she called on the Administration to convene stakeholders and secure a voluntary agreement around a framework that would help keep families in their homes, which included:

A foreclosure moratorium of at least 90 days on subprime, owner-occupied homes. The moratorium would stop foreclosures until lenders and servicers have an opportunity to implement the freeze in mortgage rates. The moratorium would also give state and city organizations as well as community groups the necessary time to provide financial counseling to at-risk homeowners.

Freeze the monthly rate on subprime adjustable rate mortgages, with the freeze lasting at least 5 years or until the mortgages have been converted into affordable, fixed-rate loans. This would give the housing market time to stabilize, give families an opportunity to rebuild equity in their homes, and give mortgage industry time, and incentive, to convert mortgages that were designed to fail into loans that are actually affordable.


3/24/2008
Clinton Calls For Bold Action To Halt Housing Crisis
Plan Would Help Families Avoid Foreclosure And Unfreeze Mortgage Markets
http://www.hillaryclinton.com/news/release/view/?id=6693
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IowaGirl Donating Member (539 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 06:21 PM
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25. I think her plan is very good as well.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 04:25 PM
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7. No mention of how trade deals drove the textile mills out of the Carolinas
or why so many shrimpers are now out of business thanks to cheap seafood from dubious overseas sources.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 04:29 PM
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9. Looks like she's "borrowed" the G.W.Bush backdrop designs and rally screeners.
The demographic uniformity of the "human scenery" and the hyper-nationalistc color motifs and the nauseating euphemisms repeated ad infinitum on the backdrops ... seven years of that shit from Duhbya.

:puke:
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 04:31 PM
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10. That's sooo important.
I'll have to rethink her entire set of economic proposals. Glad you bothered to come onto this thread and set us right about all of that.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 04:36 PM
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13. You haven't thought at all about her proposals.
You just cut and paste what she said from other sources and spout "I agree 10000%!!!"



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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 04:37 PM
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15. we're not all as shallow as the folks who make personal attacks such as yours
Edited on Thu Mar-27-08 04:41 PM by bigtree
but, you go on with your fantasy.

(no real discussion to be expected from you. Ignoring.)
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 04:58 PM
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22. Yes. I've seen your cogent analysis in many threads.
Edited on Thu Mar-27-08 04:59 PM by tabasco
Hillary is great!

Obama is a liar!

:boring:
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 04:43 PM
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17. "set US right"??? Do you speak for yourself and your pubic lice??
Edited on Thu Mar-27-08 04:44 PM by TahitiNut
Take your bullshit BULLYING rhetoric and shove it up your ass. You want to CHALLENGE someone's right to POST on DU??? Take it to the fucking moderators and adminstrators! Asshole!
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 04:45 PM
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18. YOU came onto this thread with your bullshit. You have nothing to be offended by
Edited on Thu Mar-27-08 04:47 PM by bigtree
You post what you want and I"LL respond as I please. Got it? If that's beyond the tolerance of the mods, let them act on that.

And, your 'pubic lice comment was uncalled for and disgusting. I didn't invite ANY of that with this thread.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 04:49 PM
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20. and you think THAT'S appropriate? WTF?
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 04:54 PM
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21. "retraining assistance" ... "help people gain new skills"
She's pushing the CORPORATE line ... shilling for the fat cats. It's LABOR'S FAULT ... becuase they're "stupid" and "uneducated" and "unskilled"!!

Forget the FACT that a graduate in Education is mowing my lawn!! Forget the FACT that IT/IS jobs were off-shored to India!! Forget the FACT that college graduates are LEARNING the SKILL of asking "Want fries with that??"

Fucking detestible!! :puke:

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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 04:59 PM
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23. I think our Economy is already too Militarized
I don't want a "Commander in chief for the Economy",
I want a President who realizes his responsibilities of the constitution
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 07:00 AM
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24. I think she was just referring to the lack of a sense of urgency from this administration
I don't believe she meant that she wanted to 'militarize the economy'. Frankly, I would be comfortable if we recast the entire military to get it back to the defensive role it has played, instead of protection forces for nation-building. I think that Clinton shares that view.
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