Who could go to Hillary to tell her to either cool it or get out? Like Goldwater to Nixon.

[Hamlette]

(I know Buchanan says Goldwater et al going to Nixon didn't convince him to resign but I'm not sure I believe Buchanan. Even if he's right, its part of the folklore and used here as an example.)

It has to be a woman as I think part of what is going on (talking to the only woman I know who is supporting Hillary) is "woman are not getting a fair shake."

It also has to be loyal Clintonites (same woman: I'm supporting her out of loyalty, for what they did you her husband.)

I think Bill could get her to back down. Maybe if the money dries up or too many superdelegates declare against her.

Is there anyone she or Bill respect enough to listen to?

[Deep13]

1. To busy cheering her on to think of anyone.

Now who could we send to give the Obamists a reality check?

[krawhitham]

5. reality check? Yes please explain to him he is winning Delegates, Votes, & States

[Deep13]

15. I'm sure someone has explained the practical differences between winning ...

...primary caucuses in red states and winning them in November.

Side note. I meant to write "Too busy" not "To busy." Oops.

[Vinca]

2. Who's got body armor? nt

[thoughtcrime1984]

3. Robert Byrd? nt

[LSparkle]

4. Madeline Albright?

Just a thought ...

[Hamlette]

8. yeah, I thought about her too

you'd of thought Richardson might have done some good, at least cooled her down. But according to Richardson the telephone call with Clinton when he decided to endorse Obama was unpleasant (he didn't give details but he sure implied it was ugly.)

[mopinko]

52. might work

who would she listen to, tho?

[grantcart]

6. Chuck Schumer

[gateley]

7. Blackwater. nt

[marshall]

9. Janet Reno?

[JimGinPA]

10. Someone With A Wooden Stake & A Hammer

:shrug:

[Hamlette]

12. tsk tsk tsk...

and LOL

We're bad.

We need a silver bullet.

[tularetom]

11. Not that she'd listen but I'd love that job

It'd be fun watching her melt down completely.

And I'd really enjoy telling bill clinton that the country is sick of his entire family and his adopted family the booshes.

I'll just wait and buy the DVD of it after she's released from the Betty Ford clinic.

[WinkyDink]

13. No one. Who out-ranks a former President?

[jakem]

14. Chuck Barris?

[crankychatter]

43. best of

you win

[BlueIdaho]

16. Monica? nt

[amandabeech]

17. It would have been a committee led by Teddy, but he's declared for Obama.

That makes it really tough to manage a situation like this.

Frankly, it would take LBJ reaching from the grave. He knew how to get stuff done within the party. I've heard stories.

[Hamlette]

21. Soros?

who is the meanist democrat? Maybe that person?

[amandabeech]

22. No. Not Soros.

He's a money guy with an agenda.

You'd want someone older, for sure. You'd need someone who understands people very well, and has compassion, but who can be tough when necessary.

You'd also want someone who is thinking about what is best for the country and the party now and in the coming years and decades.

It's a tough order.

On another thread, people are discussing the failure of Gore and Edwards to endorse. I think that whomever does this MUST be someone or ones who remain uncommitted. I'd be interested in whether those two have been in communication, and whether either is communicating with Carter.

If Teddy weren't committed, I would say that it would be his job. However, he apparently thinks that Obama is the answer. Unfortunately, that puts him out. He's not neutral.

As I've written before, this will take LBJ arising from the dead.

I suggest a seance.

[Mme. Defarge]

18. Rosalynn Carter n/t

[H2O Man]

19. Very different situations.

What Buchanan says about Goldwater is simply wrong. Way wrong. Goldwater let Nixon know that his support in Congress was entirely gone. Nixon knew that meant he would be impeached, convicted, removed from office, and tried in federal court .... unless he resigned and tried to cut some deal to protect his behind. Haig advocated for him with Ford, and thus the pardon.

Clinton is not facing impeachment or legal charges. She believes that she can keep Obama from being elected. It may mean McCain serving a single term, then her taking another shot in 2012. But she is not going to back down on her own, as a result of people talking to her.

The people from the leadership positions who are not under the Clintons' control need to join together in making the case publicly. They need to make clear that the contest is over, and that Obama has won.

[amandabeech]

28. You would need some very powerful neutrals.

I don't think that the Clintons would listen to anyone who has endorsed Obama. Not now.

[H2O Man]

31. Right.

Also, they are willing to split the party. In fact, that is their goal at this time. Hence, it seems unlikely that even neutral people could influence them.

Possibly people in their campaign. If some would express an unwillingness to participate in the destruction of the party, it might help.

[amandabeech]

35. They probably see Obama as willing to split the party.

I don't see anybody out there who will make them quit. It's them against the world, and for them, that's how it has always been.

They're ready for it.

[4themind]

20. He;s not a woman but Vernon Jordan -nt

[amandabeech]

24. Interesting candidate.

Bill used to listen to him.

He has good people skills, too.

But, as an African American, could he do it under current circumstances? Or would his skin color make him suspect?

No slams intended. Just speculation on practical politics.

Folks, I'm a middle aged lady whose had a lot of time on her hands.

The party, the country and the world, all of whom I love, are in serious trouble now and for the foreseeable future.

We can't let any of those entities down.

Let's all keep that in mind.

[BumRushDaShow]

30. Someone over at Kos suggested the same...

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/3/21/112047/802/1023/481053

[amandabeech]

33. I guess I'm in good company, then.

I don't think that she's going to bow out, no matter who tells her to.

It would be a first for her AND Bill.

Maybe Poppy Bush could do it. No, I'm not serious.

[Hamlette]

45. good analysis, thanks for the link

[totodeinhere]

23. A delegation of female senators lead by Boxer

[amandabeech]

26. No.

This isn't just about gender. This is about power.

Who could tell your guy to step down, if the shoe were on the other foot?

Just curious.

[totodeinhere]

32. I was just going along with the OP's premise that it would have to be a woman to do it.

[amandabeech]

34. I don't necessarily agree with the OP.

So I renew my question, who could get your guy to step down?

[totodeinhere]

36. If the shoe were on the other foot,

which it is not of course, I am confident that Obama, unlike Clinton, would do what's best for the party. So a delegation would not have to go to him.

But this scenario is only hypothetical since Obama is too far ahead in pledged delegates for anyone to seriously entertain the notion that he should step down. It's Clinton who needs to step down, not Obama.

[amandabeech]

39. I think that your guy is like most politicians.

Someone would have to tell him.

Not everyone in the party agrees with you on Obama's electability.

It is conceivable that neither Clinton nor Obama will be the right candidate for November. I dislike the early primaries myself, because so much can happen between February and August.

Your candidates comments on Bear Stearns in a recent interview were troubling to me. He needs to adjust his views quickly, because this will be a big one in November, if not August.

I don't have a favorite between your guy and Clinton, and his economics team gives me great pause.

[Unsane]

25. T. Boone Pickens

[amandabeech]

27. Warren Buffet? n/t

[Bigleaf]

29. Jeff Gillooly or Shawn Eckhardt?

Maybe Hillarys mentor herself, Tonya.

:P

[gauguin57]

37. Al Gore, Dennis Kucinich and John Edwards.

They can sing it in three-part harmony.

(I really don't want them to go talk to Hillary ... I just want to see those three in a room together, so I can cut out their photo and put it under my pillow).

[Mooney]

38. There isn't anybody.

The money has to dry up, and stay dried up. That's the only way this thing is going to end.

[amandabeech]

41. Maybe.

But it may come down to phone bills and airplane tickets, none of which are terribly expensive.

I think that this will be a battle to the death.

[crankychatter]

40. Bill Clinton maybe, but he wouldn't do it because...

I don't think he cares about her enough to consider about how devastating this will be for her.

It's all about his OWN Presidential Surrogacy and legacy.

[Hamlette]

46. I've thought that too, which is very freudian/greek tragedy-esque

first he puts her through the Monica stuff and now he lets her destroy both of them (IMHO) for a chance at writing the history of his own 8 years.

[crankychatter]

47. I know eh.... all while Rome Burns

Melting Ice caps... WW3... abject poverty... genocide... police state...

and we get to watch a hollywood drama about how these people healed their marriage and destroyed a nation...

omiflippinword

[AZ Criminal JD]

50. Easy on the drama...Double the meds.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

42. Joe Lieberman?

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[SoonerPride]

44. Her accountant. When she is out of money, that will be the end of it.

Coming sooner than you think.

[crankychatter]

48. Her GOP contributors haven't even started yet

She'll make it in that way, if they have to dig out more of their own money

[Hamlette]

49. ARRRRGGGGGG.

Why did you have to mention that?

You know it will happen.

[mopinko]

51. al gore

[Botany]

53. Somebody from this group?