BREAKING: 1 in 10 DEMOCRATS thinks Obama is muslim...

[mckeown1128]

1/4th of Democrats who think Obama is a muslim will vote for Clinton in the GE but not Obama.

It turns out the people most likley to think Obama is a muslim are:

rural, uneducated, old, white, women from the midwest...(I have seen these demographics before...hmm...)


http://people-press.org/reports/pdf/407.pdf

[anonymous171]

1. No wonder Hillary only appears on Fox these days.

Reaching out to her base it seems.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

2. Guess they never heard about his 20 years in a Christian church

with a crazy preacher. :sarcasm:

Seriously, people are stoopid.

[mckeown1128]

5. What's funny is that those who think he is a muslim...

for the most part have a problem with Rev. Wright.... they are either too stupid to connect the two faux scandals or they are trying to find an excuse not to vote for him. (IMHO because he is black and they are racists)

[dorkulon]

11. Exactly.

Most of these people probably don't REALLY think he's a Muslim; they just need an excuse to vote against him that doesn't betray their racism.

[NDambi]

30. DING DING DING..WE HAVE A WINNER!!!

[Zodiak]

37. What is ironic is they are hiding racism behind another form of bigotry. n/t

[redqueen]

47. Exactly.

:puke:

[HCE SuiGeneris]

54. Agreed.

[stillcool]

23. in love with hate..

the 'reasons' are superfluous. It's all about the hate, but I think the evil that lurks below the surface is arrogant intentional ignorance.

[blondie58]

25. bingo, mckeown1128

one of my oldest friends and I had an exchange about the time of the county conventions in CO here. SHe said that she would never vote for Obama. When I asked he "why- because he was black?"- knowing that being raised in MS, she tends to be a little bit of a racist, but she said "No, because he is a Muslim." I even got that email from her last week, circulating about Obama being a Muslim, stating that it was verified by Snopes. Aaarghhh. Such ignorance is disappointing.

[RoadRage]

58. Feel free to send this back to her..

I posted this back in January.. feel free to copy & paste it into an email to send it to her. If her REAL reason for not voting for him is because of that, she no longer has that reason. If her REAL reason is because he's black, she's got no hope. :)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4032401&mesg_id=4032401

[Kajsa]

8. Ya would have thought the brewha over

Wright's sermon would have put end to that myth--

But No---

I friggin give up!!

:(

[helderheid]

14. no kidding!!!

[SoCalDem]

3. so 9/10s of democrats can walk & chew gum at the same time

That's good news :)

[Kber]

10. Actually, that's pretty good.

[depakid]

4. 4 out of 5 dentists surveyed....

I know you're too young to understand the reference, but that's about how much credence I give to this.

[galaxy21]

7. How hard is it to go to wikipedia and type in Barack Obama?

That tells you everything you need to know.

[mckeown1128]

12. facts have an Obama bias... nt

[depakid]

21. Those sorts of statements are more juvenile than cultish

though of course, it's quite possible to be both.

[mckeown1128]

26. umm. I was joking...

your an #^#@...

[dana_b]

40. that's funny because I've taught some older white women how to use a computer

and quite a few have a hard time with it.Not all, of course, but quite a few. How would they find Wikipedia?

[helderheid]

6. this needs to be on the greatest page.

[mckeown1128]

9. I will gladly except any kicks and recs... nt

[Kajsa]

13. You got it,Mckeown!

K & R.

:kick:

[crankychatter]

15. I know an older white midwesterner with a Degree in Political Science

that thought obama was a muslim until I proved different for her

I showed her the film short of Obama's grandmother in Kenya

she'd heard it at church

simply didn't know differently

[crankychatter]

16. k n r

btw

[Zynx]

17. 4% of the total electorate. That's discouraging, but not fatal.

10% of Democrats never seem to vote for our candidates anyway.

[dorkulon]

64. I'm sure the Republican number is significantly higher. /nt

[TheWraith]

18. This may be the same set of people who offer bush his 7% approval rating among Democrats.

I.e. "Democrats who aren't paying attention AT ALL."

[roseBudd]

19. Um believe it or not lots of people who will vote in a GE are not yet paying attention

[crankychatter]

20. What percentage support Clinton because they Hate Black people?

I don't see that up there...

[mckeown1128]

28. Racism is hard to poll...

people who are racist don't generally admit it...even to themselves... they have to come up with other reasons to "hate" a black person... you know like imagining that said black person is a muslim pretending to be christian AND is going to a church with a "bl... umm.. scary preacher."

[KaptBunnyPants]

22. That's not bad, actually.

I thought it would be 15-20%. 20% of Dems consistently give Bush rave reviews, just as a quick measure of how stupid even members of our own Party are.

[no_hypocrisy]

24. That isn't the problem.

The problem is that the same 1 in 10 never met a Muslim, don't know anything about the tenets of the faith of Islam (let alone their own), and think that being a Muslim is a "bad" thing.

[msallied]

27. What a bunch of efftards. It's people like that who should be denied the right to vote.

[depakid]

29. What the young and naive fail to realize is that these are PRECISELY the people who vote

And they vote in FAR greater proportions than the under 25 demographic.

Insulting them isn't the brightest thing to do....

[msallied]

31. These are the ingnoramuses who elected Bush twice.

Believe me, I'd love nothing more than to insult them.

[depakid]

36. errr. the OP referred to Democrats

[msallied]

39. Do you think that true Democrats who faithfully vote Democrat

would believe that Obama is a Muslim?

[depakid]

45. I seriously doubt it

which is exactly what I referred to in my first post in this thread.

Americans seem to have this peculiar notion that polls- wherever they come from are sacrosanct. That because they're "scientific" that therefore they're valid and reflect the actual attitudes and beliefs of the general- or to segments of the population.

Sometimes they'll swallow the most absurd notions- like the poll a couple of weeks on DU that asserted 20% or so of Americans believe the sun revolves around the earth!

Even so, for they few who may be laboring under misconceptions, you'll usually get better results by trying to educate them when it comes to factual matters than you will by insulting them.

[msallied]

48. Well, I don't currently see anyone here to educate on this particular matter.

But I will happily educate someone of their idiocy when the opportunity presents itself.

[depakid]

50. Step one in doing that might be to learn how to avoid insulting people

in the process....

[amandabeech]

51. No kidding.

We'll need their votes.

You catch more flies with honey than with vinegar.

And vinegar seems to be the fly-catcher around DU.

[msallied]

52. Oh give it up already.

And don't condescend to me. If people can't be responsible for their own education and their own ignorance, then they deserve to be insulted.

[amandabeech]

55. I'll have to write the Obama campaign and tell them not to send you to rural America.

Or will you take care of that yourself?

I want those votes even if you don't.

[Mz Pip]

32. Still???

Are these "Democrats" the kind that kind actually find a voting booth??

Actaully, I have a friend whose mother in law sort of falls into this category. She's 90 and senile.

[amandabeech]

53. I grew up in rural Michigan.

They know where the polling place is because they've been going there like clockwork for 40 years.

Don't dismiss them. We'll need their vote.

[Mz Pip]

60. How do we

appeal to the vote of older white uneducated people who think Obama is a muslim? How do we do this? I am clueless on how to educate people who refuse to be educated.

[New Dawn]

33. We need to combat Islamophobia.

That is the only way to end absurd hysteria like that.

[msallied]

34. Actually, Muslims need to try harder to combat it.

[Cali_Democrat]

44. By doing what exactly?

[msallied]

49. By openly condeming the actions of the extremists acting on the behalf of

the entire religion. In the meantime, people will continue to think there is a general complacency regarding such matters, just as people do regarding the Catholic leadership not having a firmer hand on the pedophiles among their ranks.

It's not exactly easy for people like us to combat "Islamophobia" when there are plenty of Islamists out there still giving people enough to be afraid about. The more moderate Muslims need to be more vocal about the tenets of their religion and openly condemn those who don't hold to them.

[mckeown1128]

57. They have been vocal....

but Muslims calling for peace isn't interesting enough for the news networks to report on. They would rather report on the tiny minority of muslims who are scary and make threats. That is what sells papers. That is what brings in the voters. That is what open's peoples wallets.

So, don't push the "moderate Muslims aren't doing enough line"... because they are trying.

[kitfalbo]

35. yeah

Still better than the 14% of republicans

[unblock]

38. oh come ON!! that's 4% of the country. the same percentage thinks the world is flat!!

besides, some of those people will vote for obama anyway.

hell, a good chunk of them might BE muslims themselves and vote for him precisely BECAUSE they think he's a muslim!

[LaurenG]

41. Hell I fit those demographics but I'm an Obama supporter

and I wouldn't care if he were Muslim or not.

[tpsbmam]

42. My experience is that at least 1/10 Democrats are idiots anyway. I guess it's

better than 7/10 Republicans being idiots!

[mckeown1128]

59. 7 in 10....

lol lol lol :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: you mean 9.7/10 right?

[GoldieAZ49]

43. well turn them on to rev Wright why don't ya?

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[OnionPatch]

46. So we have until November to educate them.

I hope the canvassing will reach out into the rural areas.

[superkia]

56. They cant be Clinton supporters because she made it clear...

that she took Obama on his word that he wasn't a Muslim. So are they Obama supporters?

[Adelante]

61. So 90% don't think he's a Muslim

That's a big improvement.

[Colobo]

62. Who the hell are those Democrats?

[caraher]

63. They're the independents and Republicans who now choose to call themselves Democrats

If lots of people who are not lifelong faithful Democrats but see that more of the same is not an option, we should see some 10%-level shifts in polls like this. They may be mis- or under-informed -- how can they not be, given what passes as news in the mainstream media?

It's all about education. Informed, rational voters will not vote Republican this fall. We need to see that the electorate face the facts; if that happens, we win. (Unless... well, I need not go into detail about proper vote counts, voter suppression, etc.)