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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 05:52 PM
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You wanted the Dems to grow a spine and stand up for themselves yet
you criticize Hillary for showing that she won't back down when it gets tough?

It's about time someone in the party showed some "huevos" and will fight for victory.

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mcctatas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 05:54 PM
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1. there is tough and then there is out of touch with reality...
she can't win unless she tears the party apart, and all the testicular fortitude in the world only serves to make her look as stubborn and deluded as bush.
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Clovis Sangrail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 05:55 PM
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2. no... people criticize her for other reasons
nice try though
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Firespirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 05:55 PM
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3. No, we wanted the Dems to stand up for what's right
Hillary only stands up for herself.
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wileedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 05:56 PM
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4. The going is not 'tough'
The going is gone.

Its time for the party leadership to grow a spine and shut this farce down.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 05:56 PM
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5. Hillary is not standing up for Democrats - she's standing up for Hillary.
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 06:14 PM
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14. Yes. I'm afraid that's really where we are now. How sad. nt
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 05:56 PM
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6. You can be strong without being underhanded and machiavellian. nt
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 05:57 PM
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7. No. We wanted them to grow a spine and stand up for US...
...not against us.

She's standing up for herself and will destroy anyone who gets in her way, including people otherwise inclined to support her.
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Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 05:57 PM
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8. WRONG. To stand up for the PEOPLE. The Clintons have always
fought for the CLINTONS.
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New Dawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 05:59 PM
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9. The DLCers only have "a spine" when they are bashing real Democrats.
However, they never have "a spine" when dealing with the GOP. They just raise the white flag and surrender every time.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 06:03 PM
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10. Unfortunately, that's true.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 06:04 PM
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11. Another Apples to Unicorns comparison
I think you're confusing "standing up for yourself" and "wetting yourself in public".
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dana_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 06:12 PM
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12. I think she's got a lot of "huevos" and is very tough. My kid says she's "sassy" and thinks that's a
good thing, as do I. However, when things are to the point where it's hurting the overall principle and message that the party wants to send, the candidate who has very little hope should really stand back and look at things rather than attack and make things very difficult not just for the other candidate, but for the entire party. In other words, this is way bigger than just her. She is making herself and the party look bad and unelectable. This is about the future of the country and possibly the world. I and my kid would support her if she was the nominee, but she more than likely won't be so why continue to destroy it for us all?
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 06:13 PM
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13. I want to see those backbones put into effect fighting republicans
not Democrats. And especially not Democrats while praising Republicans!
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 06:14 PM
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15. Some times it takes "huevos" to admit you've lost.
Real fighters would have thrown in the towel by now. There's no shame in admitting defeat.

There is shame in pretending you haven't been defeated.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 06:22 PM
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16. You're right - the problem comes when a person's identity is too wrapped up in winning. (imo)
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msallied Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 06:22 PM
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17. There is a difference between being tough and being delusional.
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