How Will Clinton Win With a 37% Positive Rating?

[DrFunkenstein]

US Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton's positive rating has dropped to a new low of 37 per cent in an NBC/Wall Street Journal poll released today.

Senator Clinton's Democratic rival, Illinois Senator Barack Obama, also saw a slight dip in his positive rating, to 49 per cent from 51 per cent, the poll found.


http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,23440332-5005962,00.html?from=public_rss

For someone supposedly fully vetted with no surprises around the corner (cough Denise Rich cough), Hillary would start against McCain with a positive rating down in Bush country.

That is before a vast right wing conspiracy ever got her hands on her. That's before an apocalyptic convention fight that would be decided through backroom deals.

As I have said many times, this election will come down to voter turnout - just like 2004. The polls of likely voters don't mean much without a measure of voter enthusiasm and turnout of new voters.

If the Democratic nominee doesn't have people feeling good, they are not going to bother coming out to vote.

Meanwhile, even after the hot heat of the Wright episode, Obama's positive rating dipped all of two percentage points.

There is no big excitement about McCain to drive up GOP voters. Only the chance to vote AGAINST somebody will get these voters to the polls. Meanwhile, Obama is generating crazy fundraising and enthusiasm for all sorts of never-before-seen corners of the political spectrum.

Even if Obama were not the most inspiring figure since JFK, his nomination just makes better political sense.

[Egalitariat]

1. She'll tell everybody it's actually 73% and hope nobody checks?***

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[Medusa]

2. She can't. She won't.

But Hillary and her supporters seem to be extremely math challenged.

[MidwestTransplant]

3. Here bigger math challenge is the delegate count

[Meshuga]

4. That's the consequence of Hillary's "winning at all costs" approach

And now she seems to be on a mission of taking Obama down with her.

[Diane R]

5. You're not supposed to worry about that....she's 'entitled' to the nomination; get w/ the program!

[Noirceuil]

6. How will Obama win...

when nearly 40% of Hillary's supporters are planning to vote for McCain if Obama is the nominee? How will Obama win given that the majority of people in Ohio and Pennsylvania will vote for McCain over Obama?

[MercutioATC]

7. Well, it's 28%, not 40%...

...and I don't believe it for a minute.

In the heat of a primary this combative, supporters get caught up in the battle. I'll bet that both the Obama and Clinton crossover polls are at least 50% high. Dems will vote for the Dem in November.

[stillcool]

9. The same way he is winning now

going to states, talking to people, and having record turn-outs of people walking the walk to the voting booth to vote for him.

"The problems of the world cannot possibly be solved by skeptics or cynics whose horizons are limited by the obvious realities. We need men who can dream of things that never were."
-- John Fitzgerald Kennedy

[TheDeathadder]

8. cherry pick that poll

that one poll all you want

if her Positive Rating is so low, why does she tie Obama is most polls in head to head Clinton VS Obama results?

sorry but you thread is pure rhetoric

[murray hill farm]

10. She has lost all respect from me, at this point.

She is, it appears, without conscience It does seem that if she can't have the nomination, that she will take down Obama and the party with her. I started out with Edwards and when he dropped out, my second choice was Clinton, but no more. As noted, I have lost all respect for her and now see her as the enemy of the party...and without conscience about what she is doing...or for the destructive consequences.

[Skip Intro]

12. What is it, exactly, that she's doing?

[earthlover]

14. What has she done? Seems like every week I think she has sunk to a new low.. then..more...

1) One of her surrogates, Geraldine Ferraro went racist ballistic by saying the only reason Obama was doing so well was that he was lucky enough be be born black

2) She basically endorsed McCain over Obama

3) She lied about being under sniper fire in Bosnia

4) She has continually tried to besmirch Obama's character and ability to be commander in chief and president....not that she would be better and he is a worthy opponent....he is just a speech....

5) She flip flopped on NAFTA

6) She has repeatedly implied she had a heck of a lot more direct experience during her husband's presidency than she really had...no security clearance, was largely doing ceremonial stuff after her health care program fisszled out.

7) I'm sure there are more. These are just off the top of my head. Stuff like this I try to forget....sometimes I am successful!

In any case, if you seriously ask the question of what Hillary is doing that would piss people off....I gave you a start. I'm sure the Hillary Herd has canned answers for all of them. Programmed sheep in the Herd.

[murray hill farm]

19. u ask, so you can debate it.

I do not go there. U already know exactly what she is doing. My opinion. Case closed. I am not trying to convince anyone of anything. Just stating my opinion.

[Egalitariat]

36. Making up bullshit stories doesn't help****

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[BringBigDogBack]

26. me as well.

[Crooked Moon]

11. pick your poll

rasmussen has it as:

obama
favorable 46%
unfavorable 52%

clinton
favorable 44%
unfavorable 54%

http://rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

[Life Long Dem]

13. The same way Bush did? n/t

[Thepricebreaker]

29. Bush was between 49-51 before the 2004 election.. look it up..

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

15. She won't.

[IDemo]

16. She'll say it ain't over until Canada, Mexico, and Paraguay have voted

Either that, or she will try to convince the Super Voters to support her.

[slinkerwink]

17. She can't win with numbers like that.

[stevenleser]

18. Its not so much the low positive but the high negative/unfavorable rating that will kill her...

Hillary has been unelectable since before she even started running. That is the problem for her. I came at this whole issue from another angle here ---> http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5288809

[Raine]

20. She can't and she knows it

her goal is to ruin Obama so she can run in 2012. Sacrifice 4yrs to the reTHUGS so she can run after MacCain's one term. :grr:

[high density]

21. The skies will open and celestial choirs will sing

That seems to be the plan as far as I know.

[wileedog]

30. I think she has a better chance with the

"Obama will get struck by lightning" strategy

[JimGinPA]

22. That Poll Is Skewed...

They only polled democrats.

:evilgrin:

[crankychatter]

24. best of

you won this one

[crankychatter]

23. McCain keels over during General Election and NO ONE will vote for Lieberman

Victorious, Clinton's acceptance speech calls this a mandate from the People.

[Upton]

25. The other 63% are all sexists.

[Beacool]

27. That poll is not accurate

as they over sampled the black Democrats. The Rasmussen poll appears to be more accurate.

[Upton]

31. She's only 44% favorable in Rasmussen

54% unfavorable, she can't win with that either.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

[Beacool]

32. And Obama is at 52%. n/t

:shrug:

[totodeinhere]

39. Even if you are right, that's bad news for Clinton too. She can't win...

without African American votes.

[Thepricebreaker]

28. ... she is 6% then Bush..... lastest he is at 31%...

[totodeinhere]

40. Isn't that just pathetic?

[JKaiser]

33. We need to unite. Now more negatives about either dem candidate! GO DEMS!!! NO McCain!

[DeepModem Mom]

34. K&R

[krawhitham]

35. It is not about winning anymore, it is about making sure Obama can not win

[Barack_America]

37. Expect to see it drop further after this week's self-swiftboating.

The poll released yesterday didn't capture the full effect of "snipergate".

[BeyondGeography]

38. She's going to clean up among voters who don't like her

[BenDavid]

41. Excuse me but the poll from nbc was only 700 people. A low

sampling of people but guess what? They polled more african americans in this poll to see how the preacher was helping or hurting obama.....Kind of a stupid poll because all we have heard for 2 weeks is this is the way blacks conduct their services, and if I added 100 plus more of one race I have a feeling that obama's numbers would rise or stay pretty damn close and so the wright was not hurting him, and as for hrc the numbers of unfavorable would rise.....so I do not count this a worthy poll with 700 and more of one race....