PresidentObama
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Thu Mar-27-08 09:47 PM
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Poll question: Is Senator Clinton putting her own ambitions before the party and the country? |
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She is running a negative campaign as the math begins to work against her.
She knows to win, she'll have to play dirty. And she'll have to do everything to destroy Barack Obama and anybody who stands in her way, including the DNC, in order to win the nomination and the Presidency. She said on FOX News (yes, FOX) that she'll take this to the convention if she has to and force the Democratic party to go on record against Florida and Michigan three months before the General Election if they don't give her, her way in Michigan and Florida and seat their delegates. Senator Clinton is willing to take this till August, and destory Obama's chances of winning in November even though it's crystal clear she has no chance of winning the nomination.
So is Senator Clinton putting her own ambitions before the party and the country?
Are her supporters?
I thought she was the better candidate. But this race is over, and she's being selfish and overly ambitious staying in this race. And she's willingly showing she'll do ANYTHING to win this election, even throw Barack Obama under the bus or force this election to go on until August.
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Thu Mar-27-08 09:48 PM
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1. having just read on DU that today she was telling people to vote Dem not McCain |
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I'm reserving judgement for a few days.
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Thu Mar-27-08 09:53 PM
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2. Doesn't matter what she says, she says that as she's throwing the kitchen sink at him. |
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Thu Mar-27-08 09:54 PM
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3. well, yeah, I doubt it will last... (psst - you gave away your poll slant!) nt |
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Thu Mar-27-08 09:56 PM
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4. As Hillary would say those were "just words", her actions say otherwise. |
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Thu Mar-27-08 11:22 PM
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7. It's amazing how everyone is so surprised at her saying that |
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You would think it would be a given for any Democratic candidate.
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Thu Mar-27-08 11:29 PM
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8. Well, considering her past comments |
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I'm not surprised at everyone's surprise. I kept trying to tell her supporters that her McCain comment cost her seriously, now they still may not think so but obviously Hillary does.
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Thu Mar-27-08 11:01 PM
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Thu Mar-27-08 11:19 PM
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6. I hope she has decided to end the kitchen sink strategy. |
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What she said today gave me some hope. We'll see.
:shrug:
-Laelth
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Thu Mar-27-08 11:39 PM
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9. were this the presidential race and polls were saying... |
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...the republican candidate was narrowly in the lead would people here be demanding the democrat concede the race?
this is just plain lunacy
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Fri Mar-28-08 05:28 AM
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I think that there is a HUGE difference in a democratic candidate tearing apart the party for her own means and someone that is not in the party doing so. She's being asked to step down because there has never been a time that the Democratic Party has won the general election in the midst of a split party. Never. And at this point every victory for her is a Pyhrric one except the cost would be to more people than just her.
With the chances of her winning this between 5-10% (and with negatives lower than any other candidate running) I think that it is time to at the very least stop the negativity. It doesn't make her look good and in fact make her looks desperate and sad. That is why others dropped out of the race. Why continue throwing good money after bad in a race that will probably end poorly for you AND lead to a Republican in the white house again. She's just being short-sighted. I'm glad that she (finally) said that we should vote for the Democratic nominee. That's what the hell she's supposed to do. I'm tired of her "it's mine" attitude it reeks of privilege and self-centeredness. If she can't give in for the party why not for the millions of Americans who will be helped by having anyone besides a Republican in the party? Think of how great it would be to say, wow, it's because of me that we don't have 3 conservative Supreme Court Judges. Wow, it's because of me that we are getting out of the war in my lifetime.
Sometimes you have to give in to win. If she's not smart enough to get that she doesn't deserve to be President.
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Fri Mar-28-08 05:18 AM
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10. She knows she can't get the nomination this time |
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Edited on Fri Mar-28-08 05:18 AM by bowens43
now she is trying to make sure that Obama loses the GE so that she has a shot in 2012. Her party, her country and the American people are not as important as her ambitions.
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Fri Mar-28-08 07:15 AM
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12. Sheesh - of course. When has the good of "the party" had ANYthing to do with her getting more power? |
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Edited on Fri Mar-28-08 07:16 AM by jmg257
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Fri Mar-28-08 07:21 AM
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13. Speaking of Hillary and the Democratic party...from political cartoonist Tony Auth |
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Fri Mar-28-08 07:31 AM
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14. Are You Suggesting That Her Iraq Vote Was Out of Political Ambition? |
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I am sure that she genuinely felt that Bush needed to have a free hand to begin the invasion without any pesky checks from Congress.
There are now 4,000 soldiers - brothers, sisters, fathers, mothers, etc. - that were sent to their death for an unnecessary war. Add to that tens of thousands of innocent civilians and you've got yourself a real chance to prove your "tough" foreign policy credentials.
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