Choose your favorite Obama presidential ticket here.

[Colobo]

Let's evaluate his choices.

[Colobo]

1. Gobama!

[Maat]

2. Looking forward to the final results.

I voted for Richardson.

[gateley]

53. My concern with Richardson

is that since the R's fear the "Alien Menace" more than Armageddon, his presence on the ticket would bring them to the polls in droves to defeat us. Which is a drag - he's so qualified and I really like him.

[crankychatter]

75. Dobbs Mr "Independent" is as attractive to xenophobe Dems as Reps

I think it's an issue that effects both parties

I think it's a toss up which party is effected more

look how our candidates vascillate on the issue

Do you like Lou Dobbs?

[gateley]

89. Lou Dobbs used to be a local news anchor in

Seattle (where I'm from), so I always have a little soft spot for those guys when they make the "big time". I REALLY liked him when he was up in arms about what this country is doing to our middle class. He wrote a book on it. It was eye-opening to kind of step back and observe, which we can't do when we're in the middle of it treading water furiously for our survival. Like reading/hearing Naomi Klein.

I paid absolutely no attention to his Immigrant tirades, because I felt it would just infuriate me to listen. I know the general consensus is that he's staunchly anti-immigration reform. Lots of comments on how Dobbs hates Hispanics, etc., so I think I got the gist of it.

I learned how important an issue this is to the Reps when I saw a poll (there's a poll for everything) which showed that immigration was the number one issue for a healthy majority of Reps, which is what I remember when I think of Richardson being on the ticket.

Do I like him? I like his fury at this administration for taking away our freedoms and rights, but that's all I can objectively say. I guess I neither like nor dislike him - he just is. By the way, he changed his affiliation to "Independent" (and urged everyone to do so) so both parties would be harder put to say "oh, we have this many registered, so we're in good standing". Sending the message that they can't count on us just for party reasons, but that the need to earn our support.

But you bring up a good point, I'm sure we have plenty of xenophobes on our side, too. Sigh.

[Maat]

90. Maybe we can just be in-your-face about the whole thing ...

and force them to confront their inner racism.

[Muttocracy]

3. what say the night owls?

:popcorn:

I had to put Biden though I'm still not sure how I feel about that yet and Joe is being stingy with the clues.

Dodd could be interesting given how our financial system is lurching.

[dailykoff]

4. Is that an old pic or did Richardson shave off his beard?

I also like Richardson as he showed a lot of courage in making his endorsement when he did. I voted for Kerry, though I don't think he's a very likely choice.

[Colobo]

7. Old picture, from Iowa I think.

[dailykoff]

15. I saw them together at an Obama rally on Friday

in Oregon, on CSPAN, and they both looked happy, except Richardson kept getting this really spooked look on his face like he'd just talked to a monster.

:rofl:

[crankychatter]

76. I hope he keeps his beard

it looks natural on him

does he dye it, ya think?

[dailykoff]

85. I think it'll go soon enough

if he gets the veep slot. Too much trouble and yeah he prolly does.

[Bullet1987]

5. Sebelius

We need someone who is not just a popular name, but can bring things to the ticket.

[libnnc]

6. Hey! Where's Barbara Boxer?

[Colobo]

11. Wow! I forgot about her! Sorry!

[David Zephyr]

8. Where's Barbara Boxer? Add her and you'd have a real poll.

Add Boxer and I'll vote.

[FlyingSquirrel]

9. I agree Boxer should be listed. I chose Sebelius because

It is essential that Obama have a female VP candidate to make up for Clinton's loss; also it's been rumored that McCain might choose Olympia Snowe as his running mate and we need to guard against this possibility as well (OMFG, the REPUGS get the first female VP into office????)

I'm not even sure why Bloomberg's in there. Also I really don't think Kerry is a realistic choice.

[Colobo]

14. Done.

[David Zephyr]

16. Thanks. And though she'll have a late start, I bet she'll do just fine.

Obama/Boxer 2008!

[Colobo]

17. She's already got 12%!

[libnnc]

21. home run ticket right there.

unbeatable IMHO

[Alexander]

10. Other: Obama/Feingold.

[Muttocracy]

62. that's a good one too. nt

[Alexander]

80. He's got experience, integrity, ethics, no skeletons, and he's half of McCain-Feingold.

Picking Feingold would negate McCain's strongest issue and the only real bill he helped pass - the campaign finance reform legislation.

[David Zephyr]

95. Good choice, too.

Feingold is golden.

[BringBigDogBack]

12. Dodd.

Chose Richardson out of the choices above, with JRE as AG. :thumbsup:

[Debi]

13. BIDEN!!

:bounce:

[peoli]

50. for sure

[jgraz]

18. Depends on the meaning of "favorite"

Emotional favorite: Obama/Edwards

Strategic Favorite: Obama/Richardson

[SnoopDog]

19. Webb?

I am glad he is a 'Dem' but he has voted republican to many times for me...

[mod mom]

26. I actually chose Webb. I came into this poll w/o giving the VP much thought other than NOT Hillary

(I can't imagine that having Bill second guessing your every decision would be fruitful.) I chose Webb thinking of his speech just before the Kyl Lieberman vote. I also thought on how Webb used to be a Republican but let his ethics guide him over to our party. I also recalled he is a southern former military man who currently has a son serving this country.

[Laelth]

20. I voted O/E in '08. Originally I wanted E/O, but I'll live.

While Biden is a tempting choice that would strengthen the ticket on foreign policy, I believe that a noticeably older VP candidate weakens the Presidential candidate. I remember Lloyd Bentsen schooling Dan Quayle in 1988, and the press all kept saying, "Why isn't Bentsen the Presidential candidate instead of Dukakis?" That hurt Dukakis, I believe. As such, I think Obama must choose from his own generation. Edwards is a better choice.

Boxer is awfully tempting too, but I'd hate to lose her in the Senate. Plus, with a R Governor in CA ... not sure about CA election law, but I'd hate to replace Boxer with a Republic.

Neat poll. :toast:

-Laelth


Edit:Laelth--punctuation.

[FlyingSquirrel]

22. E/I/E/I/O?

;)

[Laelth]

25. If Old MacDonald is a Democrat, I'll take him.

Awesome name recognition, you gotta admit.

:rofl:

-Laelth


Edit:Laelth--spelling.

[gateley]

54. LBJ brought JFK the Southern vote -

and although I don't know how much older he actually was, he sure LOOKED a lot older!

[Laelth]

59. That's very true.

Although the 1960 election was the first truly "televised" election, I would venture to say that television played a much greater role in 1988. Sadly, I must also confess that it plays an even greater role in our politics now.

In other words, I think the age difference would hurt more now than it did in 1988, and a lot more than it did in 1960.

-Laelth

[gateley]

64. Good point. nt

[crankychatter]

86. Obama will amaze us in the South

the Yankee Pres, Southerner VP worked against a non-incumbent Republican VP, NOT during War Time, ONE TIME. That was 1960 and it was a very close call, even then.

No way it was going to work against Bush, an incumbent Republican President, during wartime People do NOT like DC insiders and that's why Senators have only won three times in US History... 3 times. 04 was a losing ticket from the gate...Edwards MIGHT have pulled it off if he was on top.

Since the Southern exodus from the Party to the GOP the Southern strategy has failed, Carter, a non-DC insider did pull it off... but he was running against Ford, eh?

I do think we'll do ok... louisiana, missouri... I have a list somewhere

But Richards can help us out West... that's the new South.

It's a winner.

[Quixote1818]

23. Obama / Boxer but I also like Clark and Edwards. nt

[PresidentObama]

24. Obama-Kerry 08'!!

[JanusAscending]

46. Don't you think "himself" would be a better option for

Sec. Of State?? I can't imagine how he would feel, after being cheated out of POTUS last time, only to be second fiddle to Obama. I would like it, because he could take over if ever necessary. Love that man, and want him to do what's best for himself. DC:hi: PS I would have chosen Dodd for VP, but he wasn't an option?

[ginnyinWI]

48. I nominate JK to be Amb. to the U.N.

And I'll take Biden as Sec-State. I voted Richardson for veep. :)

[JanusAscending]

56. Possibility.................

but who would we look for on the Senate floor, if that tall guy with all the gorgeous hair wasn't there anymore??? We'd see more of him if he were Sec. of State? I think he's a tad more "diplomatic" when he opens his mouth than Joe. Doesn't Joe have a habit of opening his mouth and inserting his foot (every now and then).We have to be vewy, vewy careful that we don't put all of our best Senators in the Cabinet???:hug:

[Muttocracy]

60. I can't remember Biden doing that with foreign leaders

no "crusade" stuff like W. I listen to Biden at the SFRC hearings and can't imagine anyone else as Sec. of State. Kerry wanted him for Sec. of State, right?

edit to clarify - I'm not sure where I would like Joe best - Sec of State or VP. Of course I wanted pres, but too late for that. And he's not giving clues!

[JanusAscending]

65. I do love Joe Biden, always have.

I'm sure that Sen. Obama will take all of these things into consideration, and I'll trust his judgement. We do know that Sen. Kerry, and Chris Dodd have his ear, and giving nothing but good advice, right? Right!!

[Muttocracy]

66. yep

and some of his family.

[ginnyinWI]

88. yes dc, it is a hard choice--

We'd be leaving the SFRC to Dodd, too--with both Biden and JK gone. Not that there's anything wrong with Dodd. JK could fill either position well, and would like it, because he was raised by a diplomat father and would be very very good at it. I guess we'll just have to leave it up to Obama. :)

[Muttocracy]

96. Feingold could also be good leading SFRC; we may need Dodd as maj. leader nt

[CitizenLeft]

27. I adore Barbara Boxer...

..but they'll paint her as ultra-liberal - which she is, and thank God for it! Also, she doesn't "appear" as tough as Hillary, and I think, in this atmosphere, any woman on the ticket must appear fearless. They will yank out the footage of Boxer crying when she contested the election in 2004 (which I loved her for), and they'll flail her with it.

[tblue37]

28. Though Clark is supporting Hillary, I would have been in his corner--yes, even over Edwards,

whom I supported first in this primary season. If Clark were VP, that would position him for a run after Obama's excellent 8-year presidency. Also, I think a Clark VP would go far toward quieting those who think Obama lack's foreign policy experience.

Also, as a Rhodes scholar and a brilliant man, Clark would be a nice pairing Obama, who is also quite brilliant. It would be so lovely to have such a wealth of intelligence at the top of our government after two terms of the moron in chief.

Also, since Clark is a strong supporter of Hillary, having him on the ticket might help calm hurt feelings in the Clinton camp. I honestly don't think that an Obama/Clinton ticket would fly now, since the attacks have been too brutal lately, though of course an Obama/Clinton would also mean two brilliant people on the ticket. But, heck, we had an embarrassment of riches in every way--intelligence, talent, experience, etc.--in all of our candidates this time. And the Republcians had magic underwear, "Bomb, bomb Iran" and We can stay in Iraq for 100 or 10,000 years! and Evolution? What evolution? for their choices. Oh, and Rudy. But Rudy? That's a whole other joke!

I don't want Edwards for VP--I want him for Attorney General. I'd kind of like to see Hillary for Supreme Court. Wouldn't that just toast the fundies and the Hillary haters?

[comrade snarky]

68. I was going to reply to your post

But then as I began writing I realized I didn't have a damn thing to add to what you said.

I agree completely.

Clark on the ticket might help bring some unity back to our damaged party.

[MrSlayer]

29. I voted Obama/Clark though I know it will never happen.

It would be a way of mending fences and I'd love to see it.

[gauguin57]

30. Richardson has the resume to back up Obama's unifying charisma.

Together, they'd be an extremely strong ticket, I do believe.

[crankychatter]

31. Richarson - Here is why him and why not the others

Bloomberg is a Republican (let's be honest) and we'll take New York without him.

Edwards is my second choice but he won't do us enough good in borderline states.

Biden is good but he's not crisp and he's another DC insider... we need a bigger tent.

Webb would be my second choice, and he'd be the best president we've ever had... but his presence is vital in the Senate.

Clark is a former Republican and his behavior in Yugoslavia under Bill Clinton, targetting civilian infrastructure was an abomination.

Kerry is another DC insider - We'll carry Mass without him and he's nuanced to the point of indecipherability - also needed in the Senate.

Sebelius might be great... and I would LOVE to look into her further, maybe for a Presidential run in 2012? But not enough name recognition and, who thinks we're really going to carry Kansas?

Richardson's positives are through the roof. The only three people on earth that don't like him are the Clintons and J. Carville. He'll bring the Hispanic vote and that means, the West, New Mexico and Nevada. Dare we dream? Texas?

Besides, they look great together... makes me proud to be an American.

Did I leave someone out? Oh, yeah...
Well, I have a problem with excessive corporate contributions and America does too. It's time for a change... she just won't help us create a bigger tent.

RING RING: "This is Senator Clinton." "Senator, this is Senator Obama's secretary. I'm sorry to call you at THREE AM but, the Senator couldn't return your many phone calls personally. He's asked me to tell you that he's reviewed your resume', and it IS very impressive. However we've called some of your references, and there appear to be some discrepancies? He's promised to look into it further and he'll get back with you at his earliest convenience. I'm sorry ma'am, and have a nice day."

[Colobo]

34. Excellent post and I agree 100%!

[abburdlen]

40. BTW Clark was never a republican

he's voted for some but was never a registered republican- and his behavior in Yugoslavia? Successfully fight a war with no US causalities. You make it sound like that's a bad thing.

I'd hope Clark is on Obama's short list but Richardson is a fine pick as well.

[Muttocracy]

41. Webb, however, was a recent Republican nt

[crankychatter]

73. I knew he served DoD and Sec.Navy but didn't know he was a GOP

until you told me... I just like his policy positions on many things... listened to him especially on Iraq... this is all I could find about HIS explanation for becoming a Democrat... sounds like it might might not just be for political convenience, especially in light of his clear policy differences from the Bush Administration... and his voting record.

This is what HE says...

Q "Why did you decide to switch and become a Democrat?"

A "A lot of people have left the Republican Party because they went over there like me on national-security issues and were never comfortable on other issues — social issues or issues of economic fairness — and now are beginning to see that the Democrats can have a stronger position on foreign policy."

I dunno, you be the judge.

[Muttocracy]

97. right, he was sec. navy under Reagan I think, not saying he's far right now or anything nt

[crankychatter]

72. sorry to disappoint you but he was... tell me about Webb

The Chameleon Candidate: Wesley Clark, Democrat or Republican?
by Doug Ireland, LA Weekly, Sept. 26 – Oct.2, 2003 (Posted 10/14)

The putative new Great White (Male) Hope of the Democratic Party, General Wesley Clark, came of age politically when he was seduced by Richard Nixon, for whom he cast his first presidential vote. He later voted for Ronald Reagan (twice), and for Bush père. As recently as two years ago, Clark was appearing at Republican fund-raisers. In Arkansas, at the Pulaski County Republican Committee dinner on May 12, 2001, Clark said “that American involvement abroad helps prevent war and spreads the ideals of the United States.”

Just two weeks later, U.S. News and World Report said, “Insiders say Clark, who is a consultant for Stephens Group in Little Rock, is preparing a political run as a Republican. Less clear: what office he’d campaign for. At a recent Republican fund-raiser, he heralded Ronald Reagan’s Cold War actions and George Bush’s foreign policy. He also talked glowingly of current President Bush’s national security team. Absent from the praise list — his former boss, ex–Commander in Chief Bill Clinton.”

It’s only been a month since Clark declared that he was a Democrat, although he went out of his way to tell CNN when he did that both parties have good ideas. However, he’s never explained those appetizing GOP ideas. Nor has he ever said in public what made him become a Democrat after a lifelong history of Republican affinities, which makes his conversion sound more like opportunism than principle.

[abburdlen]

87. Sorry you've bought the line

but Wes Clark was never, never, never a republican.

Yes, he voted for Reagan. Yes he voted for Nixon. He even voted for the the first Bush once.
He appeared at at GOP fund raisers. Those are true but it doesn't make him a Republican.

While in the military he was registered as an independent, later he changed his party affiliation to the Democratic party.
He voted for Clinton, he voted for Gore. After he dropped out in 2004 he worked his butt off for Kerry and has continued to fight to get elected Democrats across the country.

I won't argue he may have leaned right in his youth, but Clark is true blue today.

[madrchsod]

32. none of the above

the governor of arizona----Janet Napolitano

http://azgovernor.gov/BioJN.asp

[Alexander]

69. Napolitano would be an excellent choice - if not for VP, then Attorney General.

If she's VP, Arizona could even be competitive.

[Swamp Rat]

33. Obama/Kucinich

But since that was not an option I chose Obama/Edwards. :)

[TahitiNut]

57. GMTA

:thumbsup:

[Swamp Rat]

67. Georgia Motor Trucking Association?

:D

[razors edge]

35. Hillary

Swank.

[Colobo]

43. Hell yeah!

[stillcool]

36. Biden..please!

[againes654]

37. I really like Obama/Webb

but I worry about the experience angel, so I voted for Obama/Richardson.

[crankychatter]

38. Post Script Barbara Boxer

She is the BEES KNEES

I would have NO problem with Barbara Boxer as VP

Gawud she's valuable where she is though, eh?

[progressoid]

39. Obama/Lee Mercer!!

[XemaSab]

81. All three?

:shrug:

[PetraPooh]

42. Too tough of a decision, so many quality choices. I'll trust Obama when he is the nom.

[Matariki]

44. Gore/Obama

[HCE SuiGeneris]

45. I would support Boxer in a half a heartbeat.

Would be a great ticket, if not for the loss in the Senate.

[ginnyinWI]

47. Richardson because

he's not white, showing Obama isn't running for the cover of some white guy. He'll help with the Latino vote. They seem to really like each other, and understand each other. Obama brings out something in him--call it courage. (He did seem relieved and happy when he made his endorsement) He's smart on foreign policy and diplomacy, something Obama values highly. He's a governor far from the East coast, not a Washington insider. Hopefully he's clean enough to survive the vetting process?

[Colobo]

49. Richardson winning handily so far!

[gateley]

51. BIDEN - I think he's the best of all worlds.

Experience, foreign policy, he'd appeal to the more moderate Reps, and there'd be nobody better during VP debates -- he'd pulverize the poor Rep nom.

[lligrd]

52. Boxer - A True Progressive nt

[cyclezealot]

55. Jim Webb, Sen. Jon Tester or Wesley Clark.

Clark might unify the Clinton wing and still bring in the good old boys, but with a voice critical of the War lobby.

[Warren DeMontague]

58. Obama/Feingold is my top choice, but barring that I'd say Obama/Boxer.

I suspect Richardson is on the VERY short list, tho. He makes a lot of sense.

[Muttocracy]

61. Russ would be a very good choice too. nt

[unkachuck]

63. Obama/Richardson....

....only if Richardson keeps the beard....else, Obama/Edwards!!

[Bucky]

70. The downside of everyone

Obama/Clinton - I admire Clinton, but however presidential she may be, she's simply not vice presidential. Her nomination would carry all the negatives of her running for president while carry along virtually none of the tremendous assets she'd hold if she was running for the top job.
I also admire her husband, but he's never had electoral coat tails and his campaigning style tends to suck all the oxygen out of the room.

Obama/Bloomberg - still smells like a Republican, boring as hell, and really just a regional candidate.

Obama/Richardson - qualified, but utterly pizzazzless on the stump. Some of his performances in the debates this past winter were utterly confusing.

Obama/Edwards - Edwards is a truly capable leader and a fantastic campaigner. I don't think he's ready for a second chance to be someone else's VP. Like Gore, he's clearly well on his way with a compelling life mission that just isn't destined to include getting elected to stuff.

Obama/Biden - A hell of a campaigner. He'd trash Romney or any other fundy-approved VP selection McCain will be forced to make. I don't think he'd give up all the power of being chair of the foreign relations committee for the 8 year obscurity of living in the US Naval Observatory House. Plus, he wouldn't quite look right next to Obama on the dais.

Obama/Webb - Great senator, but only on the job for 16 months. His prior experience is one year as secretary of the navy and a lot of years as a journalist.

Obama/Clark - I'm still a Wes Clark Democrat. I'll be a Wes Clark Democrat when Barack Obama leaves the White House in 2017. He's utterly slimeable, however, perhaps even moreso than Obama. He pissed off a lot of people as SACEUR and they'll come gunning for him from day one. I've watched his words a bit campaigning for Clinton and he's not, to my knowledge said anything that would cast a bad light on Obama (unlike the candidate Wes is supporting). But this would be an awfully cerebral ticket. Clark rocks my intellectual nards in big way, but he doesn't have the speak-from-the-gut touch on the stump the way Edwards, Biden, or Webb does.

Obama/Sebelius - BORING! Also no international or national security experience. Also, Goddamned boring.

Obama/Kerry - too much of a step down to be considered. I have no other helpful criticism of Kerry, so I'll use the remainder of the space on Kerry reminding you how unbelieveably boring Sebelius is when she talks.

Obama/Boxer - Probably one of the three strongest choices Obama could make, but I dunno if she would play too well in flyover country.

[writes3000]

77. Appreciated your analysis. Thanks. n/t

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

92. What do you think of Sebelius?

[saltpoint]

71. Some good folks on that list, Katzendavalier. I'd add Bill Bradley.

He'd be my first choice, Senator Boxer second.

[Raine]

74. Obama/Webb :-) nt

[Hutzpa]

78. I would like to see

an Independent as veep, for some reason I just can't get Bloomberg off
my goddamn head.

If anything, the economy would be in good shape, and he was a Democrat
before someone pissed him off to the Republicans.

[Life Long Dem]

79. Obama/Gore

[XemaSab]

82. My feelings

Obama/Clinton: Maybe at one time this could have happened, but not now. Even a few months ago it would have been touchy... an idle Bill Clinton skulking around the White House is not something I'd personally want to deal with.

Obama/Bloomberg: Not feeling the love for this one. I don't think he brings anything into play, he doesn't really have any new strengths, too Giuliani-esque.

Obama/Richardson: This one, I like. I think all the people who would be scared off by the "Hispanic" factor wouldn't vote for Obama anyways. I think we'll tack down New Mexico, Colorado, and Nevada, and maybe give them some anxiety in Texas and Arizona. It might even pull Florida firmly over towards our side. He's nerdy in a way that Obama isn't, and I think he's got the right experience in the right places to build up the ticket.

Obama/Edwards: I have never been a big Edwards fan, and I don't see him bringing anything to the ticket. Sorry.

Obama/Biden: Another one I like. Perhaps a more sober alternative to Richardson. Some folks in this thread are concerned about his age, but I'm not that concerned. He's 65, but he comes off as being about 10 years younger, IMHO. His age may add some gravitas to the ticket. We'd have to come up with someone new for 2016, but we can worry about that later. I think he's got the right experience in the right places.

Obama/Webb: Too junior. I think we can fight for Virginia without him on the ticket.

Obama/Clark: Interesting option. I'm a little worried about how deep he is in the pockets of the Clintons, but he could bring a lot to the ticket.

Obama/Sebelius: I don't know much about her.

Obama/Kerry: I can't see Kerry interested in that job.

Obama/Boxer: I love Boxer and I'd hate to lose her as a senator. She's also a very liberal Jewish woman, and I'm worried that it would be a bouncy ride. I think she would serve Obama better as a strong ally in the Senate than she would as a Vice President.

[Muttocracy]

98. nice analysis! nt

[Norrin Radd]

83. Obama/Jareth

[XemaSab]

99. .

:patriot:

[Unbowed]

84. Much as I like seeing Senator Kerry on the list, he running for re-election this year.

However, when the dust settles, I'd like to see him have a prominent role in an Obama administration.

[LWolf]

91. The one without Obama on it, lol. n/t

[shadowknows69]

93. My favorite? Obama/Boxe. Realistically and probably smartest choice: Richardson

[Dems Will Win]

94. Um you forgot Obama/Feingold

You want a true progressive just IN CASE.

None of the ones mentioned are true progressives, they seem moderate or liberal, not really progressive, with the exception of Kerry who is damaged goods.