"Too Liberal" --- CNN had a disgusting news report about Obama

[Armstead]

Did anyone see that horrible CNN report by some bimbo reporter about how Barak Obama may be "Too Liberal" as if that were a crime?

It was the worst piece of "journlism" I've seen in a long time.

The whole premise was that despite his denials, Barak Obama may be guilty of being a....God forbid...Liberal. The whole idiot story was based on innuendo and some asshole from some think tank.

Liberal. the word was used as if it were the same as Baby Killer.

If the Democrats -- including Obama -- weren't such wimps, they would be defending the word Liberal. But that's anotehr story.

If this story were on Fox News, it would be woreth nary a mention.

But the fact that CNN ran it shows just how far down the tubes television news has sunk.

Okay, I'll admit it. I'm a LIBERAL. So shoot me.

[Maddy McCall]

1. What's a bimbo? What makes a person one?

:shrug:

[Armstead]

8. An airhead, dope, idiot, puffhead, nitwit......etc.

[JoFerret]

63. Hannity you mean? Is he a bimbo?

.

[Armstead]

65. Yes and no -- He's dumb, but too politically passionate to be a real bimbo

[Teaser]

72. mimbo

.

[Recursion]

76. Oddly enough it's a masculine Italian noun

meaning "baby". It was originally applied to dumb men; lately it is used for dumb and sexually promiscuous women.

[Debi]

83. What? Those garlic noses!

:grr:

[TexanDem]

2. CNN = Clinton News Network -- only ally O has is Cafferty

[niceypoo]

5. Yeah, its a conspiracy...

:rofl:

[nadinbrzezinski]

30. It is, but not exactly the type you mean

but don't fool yourself, it is a conspiracy to keep the party going

Last eight years have been good for those who OWN the media

[niceypoo]

3. We hear it every four years...

Typical republican tripe

[Armstead]

11. Alas, it's bipartisan tripe

I wish more Democrats would defend liberalism as staunchly as Republicans defend conservatism.

[nadinbrzezinski]

16. Since Dukakis, a card carrying member of the ACLU, the Lib'ral monicker

has been used to demonize and weaken Dems

You will not see any NATIONAL candidate embrace the term... and only way to put an end to this is for a national candidate to do such, and remind the country that the Founding Fathers WERE liberal

[elleng]

47. I guess you missed this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrTG_amtrhA

[nadinbrzezinski]

50. I did, thanks don't watch that program, or much Teevee any longer

we don't have CNN actually

That said.. I hate to point this out, but if that was Candidate Clark, and Nominee is far different if you get my drift

I hope that whoever comes on top this year will put an end to this nonsense from the press by telling the next idiot

You are a Liberal?

SO! Liberal and proud just like the founding fathers... or words to that effect

And my respect for General Clark just went up by leaps and bounds, THANKS

[elleng]

52. I'm happy to hear that your respect for General Clark went up;

mine has been very high for him ever since I heard him as an analyst on CNN.

This show was some years ago, Maher's show was ? on HBO maybe? I didn't see it at the time. That was just about the time General Clark became a candidate, I believe.

[nadinbrzezinski]

56. I have respected the man for a long time and you are right

that is HBO and Maher... we do have basic cable

But my respect went even further up

I WISH he was running but I get it why he no longer does... it is a swamp in here if you get me drift

But I do hope whoever emerges as THE candidate does run on a LIBERAL and PROUD meme

Time to get stop the corporatists, but sadly I don't expect the current crop to do that

[elleng]

57. I think he thought about running this time;

many of his supporters were waiting and watching for that to happen. I suspect that he didn't because he couldn't accumulate enough funds or promises of funds, and I think the reason for that is because hrc had done such a bang-up job in that respect.

As to corporatists, I agree with you. And i kind of suspect that's why he couldn't make a longer showing in '04, and same for '08; he would have been their worst nightmare (as he was Bush's in '04.) They can't handle too much of that. (Notice how Joe Biden did, money-wise this time? same story, I think.)

I'll be writing in, as I have done since wjc 'beat' Tsongas.

[elleng]

48. Like this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrTG_amtrhA

[Cha]

4. cnn is the worst..because with fauxsnooze ..

everyone knows it fascist central but cnn is like the dinos. They come in stealth clothing.

Wouldn't it be nice if cnn and faux and m$$$$m went the way of the dinosauer?

[FrenchieCat]

9. More folks know about CNN than you imagine.

[Cha]

18. Yeah, I know they're not bamboozling

the smarts ones. Perhaps the ones who are too busy to learn anything but soundbites? There was a dem in our store tonight who was telling my co-worker that she was worried Obama was racist because of the "typical White person" thing in his speech. I know where she got that from.

[BeyondGeography]

6. They took time out from pastorbating for THAT?

[uponit7771]

21. pastorbating ....lol!!! Yeah, AC has been trying to kick this story as hard as he can but seeing the

...polls tonight I think they can figure out no one gives a shit about Wright to the degree they do.

[Sinistrous]

36. Who, pray tell, is "AC"?

[Ysabel]

53. i think AC is anderson cooper (not sure tho cuz i hardly ever watch mainstream "news")...

[Bluenorthwest]

64. A pun to cross all divides

pastorbaiting!

[BeyondGeography]

73. I'm hoping it sticks

[FrenchieCat]

7. Obama's not too anything.....that just big corporate media trying to

label him, because they fucking know that he will change things as far as they are concerned for sure.

They want to put him in a box....so desperately....but people who actually listen to him know better.

[Forkboy]

10. Don't I wish...

[DUyellow]

12. I turned it off when AC started to talk about Obama being "too liberal"

[Warren DeMontague]

13. Meanwhile, the GOP prepares to run on a platform that advocates outlawing the birth control pill

as they do every four years...

..Sure, "too liberal". The conventional wisdom poo-bahs really know where the American People sit on big issues; that's why Terri Schiavo was such a big winner for the GOP. :eyes:

[Armstead]

23. "Is McCain too Conservative?"

You'll never see CNN run that one.

[nadinbrzezinski]

14. Lib'ral has become code for anti corporatist

and ANY candidate for the Democratic party, no matter how conservative, will earn that monicker from the media

Next you will see tax and spend (aka socialist) used against whoever takes the nom...

And there will be other code words for the right used as well.

Lib'ral media my ass (which is also another code word)

[knixphan]

81. YES!

Spot on.

[silverweb]

15. Good.

Obama will turn their "insult" on its head! Watch him reclaim the proud definition of "liberal" for us, as _JFK_ did.

[nadinbrzezinski]

19. This is not 1960, so don't count on it

they have had 30 years to dirty the gord... now we have to use it, and call them what they are... ranging from Tories to Fascists

[Laelth]

17. I am a liberal.

Please don't shoot me.

;)

-Laelth

[Armstead]

20. Off to the Gulags with you...

[nadinbrzezinski]

22. I know you are saying this in jest but the Righties mean it

:-)

[Armstead]

26. Actually the Righties are trying to turn America into One Big Gulag

But that gets a little beyond the scope of my original post :)

[nadinbrzezinski]

27. I know and that means going into ISSUES

in GD-P

By the way, working on a short story set in that Right Wing Gulag

:-)

F-494 kind of gave me the idea... and current conditions. For some reason cannot keep my mind in the far future or fantasy

[defendandprotect]

24. The goal is to make the Democratic Party and Obama SOCIALISTS . . .

That seems to be the game they're going to play ---

[nadinbrzezinski]

28. I WISH but they are going for the on steroids meme

and liberal in Right wing world means socialist best case, communists in the worst of cases

When they start using the tax and spend (Kudlow and CO did today) you know the knives are out

[defendandprotect]

77. HOW could they possibly hide that Bush has bankrupted the Treasury --- !! ????

[defendandprotect]

25. We need to be very LIBERAL about turning off the TV's , folks --- !!! Let's go--!!!

[The_Casual_Observer]

29. The population on average isn't liberal. That's why life is the way

it is in the USA for better or worse. Most likely the theme of the piece was about the trouble Obama would have connecting with moderate american voters.

[nadinbrzezinski]

31. Wrong... the country is NOT conservative

but propaganda has kept those liberals who believe in national health care, education, good public services, et al thinking that they are conservatives, when in fact they believe in the Democratic platform, the liberal side, lock stock and barrel

And yes, I could link to plenty of evidence on this.

[The_Casual_Observer]

34. Did I say conservative anyplace?

As usual,you don't know what you are talking about.

[nadinbrzezinski]

37. The country IS liberal

I just pointed a fact... now if you don't want to have a conversation, fine

But Personal Attacks are a no-no, you are to be alerted

[The_Casual_Observer]

42. Where? In San Fransisco?

[nadinbrzezinski]

43. Nice try

here is some info for you

By the way Pew is considered neutral

http://pewforum.org/docs/?DocID=150

And there is more if you care to search the site

By the way, you sure you are in the right forum?

[Armstead]

33. The average Amnerican is a mix of liberal and conservative

In the last presidential election, a couple of the same states that went for Bush also passed a raise in the state minimum wage.

The political/media landscape has been shaped by the elites to seem conservative. But if you look at most issues related to Wealth and Power, most Americans tend to support liberal ideas. They also are socially libertarian, which is the same as liberal on social issues.

[The_Casual_Observer]

39. A social libertarian is another word for anarchist. You are confused.

[elleng]

51. The average American is moderate.

I don't know why or when THAT word became anathema to Democrats, but we've got progressives, liberals, lefties, DNC and DLC, among others, all serving to confuse dems and weaken their/our sense of solidarity.

Then there are 'social' liberals and conservatives and 'economic' liberals and conservatives.

[2rth2pwr]

38. Ssshhhhhhhhhh! That doesn't fit the meme here.

[Shakespeare]

55. Yes, they are. When polled on individual issues, they're consistently liberal.

But when asked to identify as "liberal" or "conservative," they shy away from the L-word because the right has succeeded in turning it into a pejorative.

[milkyway]

32. CNN is garbage. Kindergarten tabloid crap trying to pretend it's serious journalism.

Every time I turn that station on, which is rare, I'm amazed at the level of ignorance. I can't forget turning it on one Saturday afternoon about a month ago to hear total retard Jessica Yellin show she had absolutely no understanding of the difference between pledged delegates and supers. A week later I heard her admit how confusing it all was. I checked her bio to find she graduated from Harvard. Must've been a legacy.

[nadinbrzezinski]

35. The country has been dumbed down

yes, even the ivy league... blame the last thirty years for this

[NJSecularist]

40. Unfortunately, the world "liberal" is a dirty word nowadays.

Years and years of propaganda has rendered it such. Especially during the 1988 election.

[nadinbrzezinski]

45. Well if you look at this place you will even find plenty of evidence of how

effective this has been

[MidwestTransplant]

41. This "most liberal" senator rating is totally arbitary by Hotline I think. Of course the wingnuts

and CNN will say he is rated most liberal but what does liberal mean?

[rucky]

44. Too liberal for what? n/t

[Armstead]

59. Too liberal for CNN, I guess....

[elleng]

46. 'We live in a liberal democracy.'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrTG_amtrhA

[kerry-is-my-prez]

49. They did that to Kerry also.... Just wait til the general - it will be repeated over and over.

n/t

[Armstead]

61. Obama should do what Kerry didn't do and defend the term

One of the things that infuriated me in the 2004 was Kerry's waffling and running away when asked the question "Are you a liberal?" on some show.

He hemmed and hawed and said he wasn;t concerned about labels, etc.

I think if Obama would come out and say something like, "Yes, I am a liberal. A majority of Americans support liberal ideas like Social Security, workers rights and economic fairness."

If they accepted the word and made it respectable again, that'd defuse it.

[NastyRiffraff]

54. Obama too liberal? LOL!!

They had to be kidding. I only wish he were more liberal.

[DerekJ]

58. Why are you surprised when so called progressives right here on the DU forums where accusing him of

Being “too left”?!!!

[DemVet]

60. "Too Liberal" is not a crime, but....

....being labeled as such sure won't attract moderates and Independents, the key to any election. We'll see.

[JoFerret]

62. If only it were true. Unfortunately he is conservative

on many issues and I am fearful that he will not be able to make any progress on important social issues.

[Armstead]

70. But according to CNN that's NOT CONSERVATIVE ENOUGH

The political/media compass is seriously out of whack when John McCain is considered a moderate.

[JoFerret]

74. he IS moderate when compared to many on many issues

like all these things - it is always 'compared to whom?" that is the actual question.

compared to McCain Obama is a liberal.
Compared to Clinton not so much in many areas. Perhaps not all.

i am certainly wary of his potential to hew to a conservative middle in key social issues such as women's rights and gay rights and their ilk.

[Pringles]

71. Amen.

If he or Hillary would grow a pair, especially regarding health care, I'd be able to vote for either of them in good conscience.

[JoFerret]

75. Grow a pair of ovaries you mean. Right. Hello chipster

I think Hillary will be less likely to get rolled on the health care issue when confronted with the lobbyists and the retrograde, reprobate congress.

It ran into a brick wall before but this time she will be determined.

[OnionPatch]

66. Notice how no one ever calls someone "too conservative."

You just don't hear that anywhere. And yet, they have practically destroyed our country with their conservatism.

[cascadiance]

67. If a reporter asked me that question, I'd turn around and ask if she and CNN were "too corporate"...

... for Americans to get their news from. Too bad the corporate media has too much control over the content we get or someone would do that!

[quantass]

68. What's a LIBERAL because in Canada the biggest party is called the LIBERAL party?

[Armstead]

69. In America it's the opposite of a Tory -- I wish we'd use the word Tory in the US more

Imagine a campaign in which John McCain said "I'm a Proud Tory."

[UALRBSofL]

78. I was watching something today about that

But someone was interviewing Obama and said to him he was too liberal and he just kind of laughed. That's what I remember.

[jenmito]

79. Yes. And they just ran the package again now. Jessica Yellin (I think) said he wants to raise

taxes (even though just today on The View he said he wants to CUT taxes on people making $97K or less and roll back the tax cuts for the very rich). They showed some guy talking about how he wouldn't work with Repubs. or has no record of that or something close, when Obama has worked with some of the most Conservative Repubs. in the Senate. They topped it off by saying not only is Obama the most liberal Senator, Hillary is 16th. :eyes:

[knixphan]

80. recommended

http://www.powells.com/biblio/1-9780670018604-3

[cooolandrew]

82. I wonder how they would of reported the founding fathers who called themselves liberal.

It's only closely related to being liberated from the British.

[cottonseed]

84. Anderson Cooper's afraid Obama will take his trust fund from him.

[rndmprsn]

85. liberal and PROUD of it!

they actually should be ASHAMED for being a conservative...these people got us into this crazy fucking mess we are all in.

i say it again...i am a PROUD liberal!

[dansolo]

86. Did you hear the "solution" to his "too liberal" perception?

The guy was suggesting that Obama should run his campaign just like Bill Clinton, i.e. run as a moderate and water down legislation to get Republicans on board. God damn DLCers.